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Hi Bob-
I'm glad you are enjoying it. 5 axis in Apt requires quite a bit of mental/visual gymnastics to get right without any visual feedback. It sounds like you used it at the highest skill level.

We do have the original manual converted to html. You can find it at

your install location /apt360-1.0.3/apt360-1.0.3/doc/manual/index.html

The error code depends on where it happened in the translation process. For section one, error 23 is

Illegal FINI format, or missing FINI (/* encountered)

In section three, it is

No motion statements were used between a VTLAXS/ ON and its corresponding VTLAXS/ OFF statement

I found these in chapter 15 of the manual.
Feel free to ask more questions. If you haven't run across it already, the website
https://linuxcnc.org/
Seems to have the most Apt enthusiasts in the forums.
Have fun!

Last edit: brent muller 2025-03-31

Thanks so much for your reply. Truly appreciated!!

Yes, you're correct. You had to be able to visualize the tool and where you
were in space at all times. The majority of the programmers were solicited
from the top tier machinists at the time, but even so, there was a high
degree of failure from those that were drafted. I had had advanced college
level mathematics and that made a lot of my understanding a lot easier than
most. APT even provided a work around for those who didn't know where they
were, which was the DNTCUT-CUT sequence, which I never used, with the
exception of maybe a Macro definition.

When transitioning to the graphical CAD systems such as Catia, you often saw
some mediocre or lower-level programmers blossom as the lights were turned
on for them. It was extremely rare for a skilled APT programmer to do
poorly when transitioning to the graphic systems, however.

I have written a bit of code in both vb.net and C# in the M$ Visual Studio
environment and had a much younger buddy that is still working and active in
NC Programming, solicit some help from me on some doing some matrix math for
the purpose of developing transformation for tool paths in the interface
that he's writing. I was able to give him the help he needed, but got to
thinking about finding a current APT program to also help. There used to be
what we termed "PC APT" available, but I couldn't find it anywhere. I
stumbled on to your Aptos thru a Grok 3 query, suggesting that I look into
to it. Grok directed me to your Sourceforge download link and I went there
and poked around a bit, downloading and running your Aptos. It truly did
delight me.

Now, after reading your response in full, I realize I've missed something
somewhere along the way. I don't really have what I would consider an
install folder and therefore I don't find a manual.

What I downloaded was apt360-1.0.2-windows-32-bit.zip that I unzipped into
C:\usr\bin as directed and this is what I got.

(see screen shot below) the pdf is definitely not the user manual you were
referring to.

I created a few test APT source files and ran them in a cmd prompt as
follows:

"C:\APT-Source>apt360 < apt.txt" with the output going to the screen.

Any further instructions on downloading and installing would be appreciated.

Bob McCaig
1705 Balsa Ct.
Milton Wa, 98354
206-818-5184

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support-requests@aptos.p.re.sourceforge.net On Behalf Of brent muller
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2025 9:41 AM
To: [aptos:support-requests] 5@support-requests.aptos.p.re.sourceforge.net
Subject: [aptos:support-requests] #5 Error codes

Hi Bob-
I'm glad you are enjoying it. 5 axis in Apt requires quite a bit of
mental/visual gymnastics to get right without any visual feedback. It sounds
like you used it at the highest skill level.

We do have the original manual converted to html. You can find it at
<your install="" location="">
/apt360-1.0.3/apt360-1.0.3/doc/manual/index.html
The error code depends on where it happened in the translation process. For
section one, error 23 is
"Illegal FINI format, or missing FINI (/* encountered)."</your>

In section three, it is
"No motion statements were used between a VTLAXS/ ON and its corresponding
VTLAXS/ OFF statement"
I found these in chapter 15 of the manual.
Feel free to ask more questions. If you haven't run across it already, the
website
https://linuxcnc.org/
Seems to have the most Apt enthusiasts in the forums.
Have fun!

[support-requests:#5] https://sourceforge.net/p/aptos/support-requests/5/
Error codes

Status: open
Group: v1.0_(example)
Created: Mon Mar 31, 2025 02:06 AM UTC by Robert Brian McCaig
Last Updated: Mon Mar 31, 2025 02:06 AM UTC
Owner: Sean Dolan

Hello,
I just downloaded APTOs today and ran a few tests with it. It looks very
interesting. I used to make a lot of complex 5 Axis parts using APT 370
while working for Boeing. I am 80 now, and retired, but I still know how to
drive a cutter the old-fashioned way. I moved on to Catia V5 and NX when the
time was right, but still have a love for APT. I also still have their
original APT manual.

I did get an error 23 that I didn't expect and was wondering if there is a
list of the error codes.

Thanks for everything you've done. It's awesome!
Bob
bobmccaig@rbmccaig.com bobmccaig@rbmccaig.com

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