#89 Clarification on where and what is installed.

David Lyles

Installer says installed successfully, but nothing is installed (Spotlight search confirms this). This also occurred with my attempts to install 1.5 last year.
I'm running 10.5.8 on an Intel 20" iMac.


  • Kristofer Widholm

    Spotlight does not index files in /var/root by default, although I would imagine the AppleJack documentation should be findable in /Library/Documentation/AppleJack. What search term are you using? When I search for "AppleJack" in spotlight, it doesn't show up for me either, and it's definitely installed on this machine. Why do you think it's not installed?

    Can you paste in the output of the following command?

    sudo ls -l /usr/share/man/man8/memtest.8 /usr/local/sbin/memtest \
    /Library/Documentation/memtest* /var/root/Library/Scripts/applejack.sh \
    /usr/share/man/man8/applejack.8 /var/root/.profile \

    For example, when I run that command in my terminal, I get:

    -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 161312 2008-05-24 20:23 /usr/local/sbin/memtest
    -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 12131 2010-07-12 10:47 /usr/share/man/man8/applejack.8
    -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 9089 2010-07-12 10:47 /usr/share/man/man8/memtest.8
    -rw------- 1 root wheel 203 2010-07-12 10:47 /var/root/.profile
    -rwx------ 1 root wheel 69953 2010-07-11 00:56 /var/root/Library/Scripts/applejack.sh

    total 48
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 16138 2010-07-12 10:47 License.rtf
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 30966 2010-07-12 10:47 ReadMe.rtf

    total 64
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 18007 2010-07-12 10:47 COPYING.txt
    drwxr-xr-x 8 root admin 272 2010-07-12 10:47 Charles Cazabon's Info
    drwxr-xr-x 4 root admin 136 2010-07-12 10:47 GNU Public License Version 2
    drwxr-xr-x 6 root admin 204 2010-07-12 10:47 Memtest.xcodeproj
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 23862 2010-07-12 10:47 Release Notes 4.22.rtf
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 19840 2010-07-12 10:47 User's Guide.rtf
    drwxr-xr-x 17 root admin 578 2010-07-12 10:47 source

  • Dean

    Dean - 2010-07-14

    Or, heaven forbid, boot into single user mode, and try it out? OR, use an app like
    "easyfind" which searches the ENTIRE harddrive including invisible files and confirm
    that way... just a thought...

  • David Lyles

    David Lyles - 2010-07-14

    I don't have the skills to run terminal commands. Just opening folders, and following the path you referenced, I found both License.rtf and ReadMe.rtf had installed in /Library/Documentation/AppleJack.

    I said the AppleJack application did not install because I can't find it. It is not in the Applications folder, nor the Utilities folder. I had hoped that the custom install option would give me the option of choosing the install location, or at least tell me which folder it was installing into, so I would know where to look.

    I used the search term <AppleJack> and <applejack> in Spotlight.

    I did not attempt to install memtest.

  • Dean

    Dean - 2010-07-15

    Maybe you should RTFM? This is not an "app". If you cannot read install notes, nor
    have the ability to boot into single user mode, Applejack is NOT for you. Again, have you even tried to boot into single user mode and run the applejack command??

  • David Lyles

    David Lyles - 2010-07-15

    In response to satyrica:

    As far as single user mode goes, that was my next step. I was ready to report the results I just got from EasyFind (thank you for the tip). But now I will do the SUM thing, and report back. I used Applejack years ago, and liked it very much (even made a donation). But I seem to have forgotten the basics. I thought I recalled moving the old application to the trash before I tried installing 1.5, but I must have been mistaken. I just wanted to look to see it was installed before I ventured into SUM, because I wasn't sure I knew how to exit if it wasn't there for me to run and restart from.

    Yes, I do believe I can still handle single user mode. Perhaps you might benefit from a reminder that people's memory often declines with age/Alzheimer's/whatever (I bought my first Mac in May of 1984, if that gives you a hint)?

    Regardless, thank you for your help.

  • David Lyles

    David Lyles - 2010-07-15

    In response to kwidholm:

    OK, I've successfully run AppleJack, which did install. My apologies for taking up your time. I'll go make another donation to partly compensate . . .

    Perhaps you may consider adding some to the ReadMe to clarify that there is no "app" to be found when installed. For the benefit of those like me who are not computer illiterate, but for whatever reason, are not power users. Your program is a good one, useful, and should be used widely. I went to Onyx when I thought 1.5 didn't install, but it was more than I wanted to cope with, as far as options I knew little or nothing about. As they say, a little knowledge can be dangerous . . .

    Now, I'm happy to have AppleJack back.

  • Kristofer Widholm

    @oregondave. Glad this has been resolved, and thank you for being so civil to some of us who could have been a bit more patient. I will re-read the ReadMe file to see if I'm making too many assumptions. In my mind, if I write that it's a tool for single user mode, I have a lot of ideas about what that means. There is also the section in there about what is installed where (Appendix A), but perhaps that is too buried.


    I added the following lines to the ReadMe file in the INSTALLATION section:
    "If you want to know what the installer does, please read Appendix A: What is Installed, and Where? towards the end of this document."

    will that help?


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