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Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Named views
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From: Mitra <mi...@mi...> - 2003-01-05 09:42:33
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Hi Setu This seems more complex than needed, what problems would this solve, that a simple ascii name would not? - Mitra At 12:19 PM +0530 5/1/03, Setu, Prem wrote: >Hi Mitra > >I am carrying little ideas for this issue. >I am not working for it, just carrying ideas. > >Bringing two ways to identify the view. > >1. "system global view id" (like now) >this id will be changed if system is different. >example >23 >2. "slice local view id". (NEW) >slice id may different in other system, but local view id can be same. >pair of "slice id" and "local view id" >example: >_2_8a98eb50efc5d240bc8d6b67f523d40a >this is "local view id": 2 in the slice 8a98eb50efc5d240bc8d6b67f523d40a >if the slice id is clear in the context, only "local view id" should work. >example: >_2 >2nd view in the slice >3. It should NOT change the "local view id" when some views are deleted. > >this can save our life in two ways... > >1. It makes "shtml files" or "definitions in AA" portable. >2. It helps for the implemention work for "import/export slice with views" >when import it generate different "system global view id", but it >keeps "slice local view id" as same number. >example for view.php3: > >view.php3?vid=3D23 // like now >view.php3?vid=3D_3_8a98eb50efc5d240bc8d6b67f523d40a // new with >local view id + slice id >if it is in shtml file, you can use variable to hide slice id: >view.php3?vid=3D_3_$myslice >$myslice is defined in installation unique shtml file for the >portability for other shtml files. >view.php3?vid=3D_3_8a98eb50efc5d240bc8d6b67f523d40a&cmd[_3]=3Dx-_3-_#SITEM_= ID >for cmd[...]..., slice id is clear, so it works only with "local view id". >or with variable in shtml; >view.php3?vid=3D_3_$myslice >and "cmd[_3]=3Dx-_3-_#SITEM_ID" will be feed through HTML definition >of the views. >example for slice.php3 with iview=3D or fview=3D > >slice.php3?slice_id=3D8a98eb50efc5d240bc8d6b67f523d40a&iview=3D_3&fview=3D_= 5 >for iview and fview, slice id is clearly identified. >if it is in shtml file, you can use variable for slice id. >slice.php3?slice_id=3D$myslice&iview=3D_3&fview=3D_5 > >example for the parameter of f_v alias function; > >vid=3D_4 >if there is no slice id, same slice which is active. >vid=3D_4_8a98eb50efc5d240bc8d6b67f523d40 >calling view of different slice >vid=3D_4&cmd[_4]=3Dx-_4-_#SITEM_ID > > > >This is another thing, but I thought about using "name". > >vid=3D(view name) // global vid by name >vid=3D_(view name) // local vid >vid=3D_(view name)_(slice name) // identify slice by name >slice_id=3D(slice name) > >vid=3D_2_(slice name) > >If the "name" is not unique, first one found by system is used. > > > >Thanks for reading. > >love >setu > >Mitra wrote: > >>So .... >> >>the questions remain - how far did you get, would this be a good >>tool to extend to handle more general tasks, for which it needs to >>at least export Views, and is there an import version? >> >>- Mitra >> >> >>At 3:15 PM -0800 28/12/02, Michael de Beer wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:55:39 +1100 (EST), "Mitra" >>><mailto:mi...@mi...><mi...@mi...> said: >>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> Say a little more about your utility >>>> >>>> - is there an import equivalent ? >>>> - does it export/import views? >>>> >>>Yes, there is an import equivalent. No, it does not import/export views. >>> >>>> Basically, what I'm looking for is some way to develop on one box, and >>>> then install on another, a >>>> typical site includes a number of slices, views and constant definitio= ns, >>>> that really want to be >>>> moved as a set? Developing on a long, sometimes slow, link to a live >>>> server is not really that >>>> productive! >>>> >>>Agreed. I have had the same problem. I used this utility when I was >>>making a site that had a LOT of fields that needed configuring. >>>I developed it on my laptop and then exported it to the apc website. >>>Michael >>> >>>> > >>>> > Honza >>>> > >>>> > On P=E1, 2002-12-27 at 19:12, Michael de Beer wrote: >>>> >> On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:31:17 +0100, "Jakub Adamek" >>>> >> <mailto:jak...@se...><jak...@se...> said: >>>> >> > There is a simpler way: Generate vid by random. The >>>>function must proove the vid generated >>>> >> does not yet exist and if it does than generate another one. >>>> >> > It is not 100% perfect, because there is a chance another >>>>installation generated the same >>>> >> id, but it is very simple. And who can be sure the name is unique? >>>> >> >>>> >> I like Mitra's idea of Named views better than >>>> >> Jakub's idea of random ids. I like 'Names' better because >>>>they are human readable. >>>> >> >>>> >> I wrote a script misc/txt2fields/ which is a sort of slice >>>> >> structure export utility that is more human readable/human >>>>editable. I think human-editable >>>> >> is quite useful. >>>> >> >>>> >> However, there is the problem of "Will the Name 'News' be unique?" >>>> >> >>>> >> Would my idea below work -- when a view is created, you can >>>>try to give it a 'name'? >>>> >> >>>> >> If a view with that name already exists >>>> >> AND you have permission to overwrite the view, >>>> >>> > >> Then you are asked if you want to overwrite the named view >>>with your view. >>> > >> >>> > >> If a view with that name does NOT already exist, >>> > >> then you are allowed to give it that name. >>> > >> >>> >>>> >> In import utilities there could be a flag that either allows >>>>or warns and denies >>>> >> overwrites of views. >>>> >> >>>> >> Michael >>>> >> >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Jakub >>>> >> > >>>> >> > > -----Original Message----- >>>> >> > > From: >>>><mailto:apc...@li...>apc-aa-coders-admin@li= sts.sourceforge.net >>>> >> > > >>>>[<mailto:apc...@li...>mailto:apc-aa-coders-= ad...@li...] >>>>On Behalf Of Mitra Sent: Thursday, >>>> >> December 26, 2002 2:51 AM >>>> >> > > To: >>>><mailto:apc...@so...>apc...@so... >>>> >> > > Subject: [Apc-aa-coders] Named views >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > Has anyone considered adding NAMES to views, so that a >>>>vid could be either a name or a >>>> >> number? >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > The reason I want to do this is that I'd like to develop >>>>a site on my laptop macintosh >>>> >> (which has working apc-aa on it) , the problem is that if I >>>>export site structure it will >>>> >> have view numbers - which will not be usable on the other machine. >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > If noone has done this - and you think its a good idea - >>>>then I might be willing to make >>>> >> the changes. (by adding an optional name field to views, and >>>>having everywhere that vid=3D >>>> >> is recognized understand it? ) >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > - Mitra >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > -- >>>> >> > > Mitra Technology Consulting - >>>><http://www.mitra.biz>www.mitra.biz - >>>><mailto:mi...@mi...>mi...@mi... 02-6684-8096 or >>>> >> 0414-648-0722 >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > Life is a Mystery to be Lived, not a Problem to be Solved >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >> > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >>>> >> > > Welcome to geek heaven. >>>> >> > > <http://thinkgeek.com/sf>http://thinkgeek.com/sf >>>> >> > > _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> > >> > > Apc-aa-coders mailing list >>> >>>> >> > > >>>><mailto:Apc...@li...>Apc...@li...urcefo= rge.net >>>> >> > > >>>><https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apc-aa-coders>https://list= s.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apc-aa-coders >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >> > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >>>> >> > Welcome to geek heaven. >>>> >> > <http://thinkgeek.com/sf>http://thinkgeek.com/sf >>>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>>> >> > Apc-aa-coders mailing list >>>> >> > >>>><mailto:Apc...@li...>Apc...@li...urcefo= rge.net >>>> >> > >>>><https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apc-aa-coders>https://list= s.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apc-aa-coders >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> >> Michael de Beer >>>> >> <mailto:mi...@de...>mi...@de... >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >> This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >>>> >> Welcome to geek heaven. >>>> >> <http://thinkgeek.com/sf>http://thinkgeek.com/sf >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Apc-aa-coders mailing list >>>> >> >>>><mailto:Apc...@li...>Apc...@li...urcefo= rge.net >>>> >> >>>><https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apc-aa-coders>https://list= s.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apc-aa-coders >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >>>> > Welcome to geek heaven. >>>> > <http://thinkgeek.com/sf>http://thinkgeek.com/sf >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Apc-aa-coders mailing list >>>> > >>>><mailto:Apc...@li...>Apc...@li...urcefo= rge.net >>>> > >>>><https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apc-aa-coders>https://list= s.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apc-aa-coders >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mitra Internet Consulting >>>> Australia: +61-2-6684-8096; Mobile: +61-414-648-722; Fax: >>>> +61-7-3319-6130 US: +1-415-704-3167 >>>> ** <mailto:mi...@mi...%C2%A0>mi...@mi... *** >>>><http://www.mitra.biz>www.mitra.biz ** >>>> >>>> **** Life is a mystery to be lived, not a problem to be solved ***** >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >>>> Welcome to geek heaven. >>>> <http://thinkgeek.com/sf>http://thinkgeek.com/sf >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Apc-aa-coders mailing list >>>> Apc...@li... >>>> >>>><https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apc-aa-coders>https://list= s.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apc-aa-coders >>>> >>> >>>Michael de Beer >>><mailto:mi...@de...>mi...@de... >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek >>>Welcome to geek heaven. >>><http://thinkgeek.com/sf>http://thinkgeek.com/sf >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Apc-aa-coders mailing list >>><mailto:Apc...@li...>Apc...@li...urcefor= ge.net >>><https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apc-aa-coders>https://lists= =2Esourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apc-aa-coders >>> >> >> > > >-- >Setu <mailto:se...@oh...><se...@oh...> > ICQ: 34839317 > AIM: setu > MSN: <mailto:set...@ho...>set...@ho... > YAHOO: setu_prem -- Mitra Technology Consulting - www.mitra.biz - mi...@mi... 02-6684-8096 or 0414-648-0722 Life is a Mystery to be Lived, not a Problem to be Solved |
