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[Apc-aa-coders] bug: object_text table missing

[Norbert B. <br...@ch...>]

Some scripts (e.g. xmlclient.php3) now use new "object_text" table but 
the table is not created by sql_update.php3 script. Inbound AA/RSS feeds 
are thus not working.

I guess that the table should look something like this:

CREATE TABLE `object_text` (
   `object_id` tinyint(6) NOT NULL auto_increment,
   `property` varbinary(32) NOT NULL default '',
   `text` blob NOT NULL,
   UNIQUE KEY `object_id` (`object_id`),
   KEY `property` (`property`)
);



norbert
br...@ch...

[Apc-aa-coders] bug: thumbnail urls are stored only randomly

[Norbert B. <br...@ch...>]

After upgrade to latest cvs version of AA I see strange bug in image 
thumbnails creation.

When you insert new item with image fields (e.g. original + several 
thumbnails) it creates the thumbnail images (files) but it stores their 
URLs only in random thumbnail fields (some thumbnail fields are filled 
and rest of them is left empty).



norbert
br...@ch...

Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Changes in AA CVS - 2006/06/14

[Norbert B. <br...@ch...>]

Hi Honza,

RSS feeds import work was broken in previous cvs version of AA (see my 
message Re: Inbound RSS feeds from 23.4.2006) and I can see no fix in 
the CHANGES. So I wonder if it is still broken or not.


norbert
br...@ch...


Honza Malik wrote:
> Current CVS state: 
>    Stable - used on Econnect's production server for 4 days 
>             (PHP Version 5.1.4, no PHP acceleration, MySQL 5.0.21)
> 
>    Known bugs: CSV import is under reconstruction
> 
>    It is highly recommended to upgrade right now!
> 
> Last Changes:
> 
> 06/14/06 - fixed security problem with require - requires no longer use
> (honzam)   variables (see http://secunia.com/advisories/20299/)
>          - new possibility to use aliases and fields from Reader Slice
>            in Alert's e-mails. Now it is possible to create personalized e-mail
>            templates, so the e-mail could look like "Dear Mr. Rosicky, ...".
>            You can use the aliases in welcome e-mail as well as in alerts e-mail
>          - Alerts test page is rewritten, so you can select from list
>            of associated Readers and send the e-mail as if it is sent on regular
>            basis to that user
>          - new AA expressions which is based on f_t alias function modifiers
>            Instead of {alias:headline........:f_t:some_text:striptags} you can
>            write {striptags:some_text}. The same it is for
>                - {rss:some_text}
>                - {csv:some_text}
>                - {safe:some_text}
>                - {javascript:some_text}
>                - {urlencode:some_text}
>                - {conds:some_text}
>            There is also new {substitute:some_text} which simply expands
>            the text (finds aliases and substitute) and
>            {convert:some_text:from:to} for character encoding
>            (like: {convert:some_text:windows-1250:us-acsii})
>          - database structure updated to better work in MySQL 4 and MySQL 5
>            (columns with packed ids are marked as binary, so it is not converted
>            during import by MySQL characterset feature)
>          - fixed problem with COMMENTS used on MySQL 3
>            (which do not supprt this feature)
>          - fixed problem with SQL JOIN command in MySQL 5 in Links module
>          - csv import rewritten to allow periodical feeding of the data from
>            url/file (not completed yet)
>          - added number of displayed items near to page-scroller
>          - there is no longer need to add slice_id parameter to itemedit.php3
>            script if called from public pages. You can just provide id
>            (the slice_id is then grabbed from the item). Internaly we slightly
>            modified the character encoding handling in html header of input form.
>          - fix: removed additional line breaks in text e-mails
>          - fixed windows-1250 to us-ascii conversion (used for example as
>            view.php3?vid=123&convertfrom=windows-1250&convertto=us-ascii)
>          - changing of headline........ field enabled in
>            "Admin" -> "Change field IDs"
>          - new AA_Alias/ AA_Aliases class for better Alias handling
>            (internal change)
>          - FILEMAN_MODE_FILE and FILEMAN_MODE_DIR for file uploads changed from
>            variables to constants (which is more safe)
> 05/25/06 - added new rss option to f_t function
> (brazda)
> 04/24/06 - new parameter convertto and convertfrom for view.php3 which changes
> (honzam)   character encoding
>            (http://examle.org/aa/view.php3?vid=22&convertfrom=windows-1250&convertto=utf-8)
>          - fixed bug in synchronization with Apache auth module -
>            tables auth_user and auth_group are not cleaned after Reader
>            Management Slice is updated, but they are filled with correct values,
>            now
>          - new insert type Date (just logically saparates text and date inputs;
>            internaly it bahaves just like text field
>          - better behavior of File upload field when checked as Required. There
>            is no longer need to fill upper field in the inputform. However, it
>            is still not perfect since the content is checked before we move
>            the file to destination directory, which might sometimes fail
> 04/19/06 - authors can now see all items in related item window but they
> (brazda)   can edit only their own items
> 04/07/06 - added priority field for slices (modules), so you can reorder
> (honzam)   the modules in top-right selectbox
>          - top-right slice/module selecbox is now generated as external
>            javascript file (cached), so the admin pages are loaded more quicker
>          - new {now} alias (returns current time as timestamp, so you can use
>            it in compare functions)
>          - new "clear pagecache" option in test.php3
>          - fixed problem with fileuploads - new directory for slice is created
>            with the right permissions, again
>          - fixed bug in offline filling - the HTML falg was not accepted
>          - fixed bug in the unaliasing of parameters of field input functions
> 03/27/06 - Updated database structure (sql_update.php3)
> 03/21/06 - Added support for unaliasing of parameters of field input
> (brazda)   functions. Now you can use any {} AA expressions in parameters
>            (e.g. conds[0][switch..........]={user:switch..........} in
>            combination with user settings from ReaderManagement module).
> 03/16/06 - small improvement of sitemodule UI - standard widgets used, where
> (honzam)   possible
> 03/15/06 - new {ifset:<aa_expression>:<aa_output>}
> (honzam)   If <aa_expression> is filled by some text, then print <aa_output>.
>            <aa_output> could contain _#1 alias as shortcut for <aa_expression>
>            condition, but you can use any {} AA expression. Example:
>               {ifset:{img_height.....2}: height="_#1"}
>          - There are new links to View-edit page under each textarea, which
>            contain {view.php3?vid=...} so you can easily navigate between view
>            settings
>          - Fixed some language constants
> 03/02/06 - new {ids:<slice>:<conds>[:<sort>[:<delimiter>]]} syntax, which
> (honzam)   returns long item ids based on on conditions  d-... (like in views)
>            Example:
>               {ids:6a435236626262738348478463536272:d-category.......1-RLIKE-Bio-switch.........1-=-1:headine........-}
>            returns dash separated long ids of items in selected slice where
>            category begins with Bio and switch is (=) 1 ordered by headline
>            descending. The main usage is with {item..} syntax - just like:
>                {item:{ids:...}:_#HEADLINE}
>          - new Conditions and Sortorder classes (used for conditions...)
> 
> 

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[Apc-aa-coders] Changes in AA CVS - 2006/06/14

[Honza M. <hon...@ec...>]

Current CVS state: 
   Stable - used on Econnect's production server for 4 days 
            (PHP Version 5.1.4, no PHP acceleration, MySQL 5.0.21)

   Known bugs: CSV import is under reconstruction

   It is highly recommended to upgrade right now!

Last Changes:

06/14/06 - fixed security problem with require - requires no longer use
(honzam)   variables (see http://secunia.com/advisories/20299/)
         - new possibility to use aliases and fields from Reader Slice
           in Alert's e-mails. Now it is possible to create personalized e-mail
           templates, so the e-mail could look like "Dear Mr. Rosicky, ...".
           You can use the aliases in welcome e-mail as well as in alerts e-mail
         - Alerts test page is rewritten, so you can select from list
           of associated Readers and send the e-mail as if it is sent on regular
           basis to that user
         - new AA expressions which is based on f_t alias function modifiers
           Instead of {alias:headline........:f_t:some_text:striptags} you can
           write {striptags:some_text}. The same it is for
               - {rss:some_text}
               - {csv:some_text}
               - {safe:some_text}
               - {javascript:some_text}
               - {urlencode:some_text}
               - {conds:some_text}
           There is also new {substitute:some_text} which simply expands
           the text (finds aliases and substitute) and
           {convert:some_text:from:to} for character encoding
           (like: {convert:some_text:windows-1250:us-acsii})
         - database structure updated to better work in MySQL 4 and MySQL 5
           (columns with packed ids are marked as binary, so it is not converted
           during import by MySQL characterset feature)
         - fixed problem with COMMENTS used on MySQL 3
           (which do not supprt this feature)
         - fixed problem with SQL JOIN command in MySQL 5 in Links module
         - csv import rewritten to allow periodical feeding of the data from
           url/file (not completed yet)
         - added number of displayed items near to page-scroller
         - there is no longer need to add slice_id parameter to itemedit.php3
           script if called from public pages. You can just provide id
           (the slice_id is then grabbed from the item). Internaly we slightly
           modified the character encoding handling in html header of input form.
         - fix: removed additional line breaks in text e-mails
         - fixed windows-1250 to us-ascii conversion (used for example as
           view.php3?vid=123&convertfrom=windows-1250&convertto=us-ascii)
         - changing of headline........ field enabled in
           "Admin" -> "Change field IDs"
         - new AA_Alias/ AA_Aliases class for better Alias handling
           (internal change)
         - FILEMAN_MODE_FILE and FILEMAN_MODE_DIR for file uploads changed from
           variables to constants (which is more safe)
05/25/06 - added new rss option to f_t function
(brazda)
04/24/06 - new parameter convertto and convertfrom for view.php3 which changes
(honzam)   character encoding
           (http://examle.org/aa/view.php3?vid=22&convertfrom=windows-1250&convertto=utf-8)
         - fixed bug in synchronization with Apache auth module -
           tables auth_user and auth_group are not cleaned after Reader
           Management Slice is updated, but they are filled with correct values,
           now
         - new insert type Date (just logically saparates text and date inputs;
           internaly it bahaves just like text field
         - better behavior of File upload field when checked as Required. There
           is no longer need to fill upper field in the inputform. However, it
           is still not perfect since the content is checked before we move
           the file to destination directory, which might sometimes fail
04/19/06 - authors can now see all items in related item window but they
(brazda)   can edit only their own items
04/07/06 - added priority field for slices (modules), so you can reorder
(honzam)   the modules in top-right selectbox
         - top-right slice/module selecbox is now generated as external
           javascript file (cached), so the admin pages are loaded more quicker
         - new {now} alias (returns current time as timestamp, so you can use
           it in compare functions)
         - new "clear pagecache" option in test.php3
         - fixed problem with fileuploads - new directory for slice is created
           with the right permissions, again
         - fixed bug in offline filling - the HTML falg was not accepted
         - fixed bug in the unaliasing of parameters of field input functions
03/27/06 - Updated database structure (sql_update.php3)
03/21/06 - Added support for unaliasing of parameters of field input
(brazda)   functions. Now you can use any {} AA expressions in parameters
           (e.g. conds[0][switch..........]={user:switch..........} in
           combination with user settings from ReaderManagement module).
03/16/06 - small improvement of sitemodule UI - standard widgets used, where
(honzam)   possible
03/15/06 - new {ifset:<aa_expression>:<aa_output>}
(honzam)   If <aa_expression> is filled by some text, then print <aa_output>.
           <aa_output> could contain _#1 alias as shortcut for <aa_expression>
           condition, but you can use any {} AA expression. Example:
              {ifset:{img_height.....2}: height="_#1"}
         - There are new links to View-edit page under each textarea, which
           contain {view.php3?vid=...} so you can easily navigate between view
           settings
         - Fixed some language constants
03/02/06 - new {ids:<slice>:<conds>[:<sort>[:<delimiter>]]} syntax, which
(honzam)   returns long item ids based on on conditions  d-... (like in views)
           Example:
              {ids:6a435236626262738348478463536272:d-category.......1-RLIKE-Bio-switch.........1-=-1:headine........-}
           returns dash separated long ids of items in selected slice where
           category begins with Bio and switch is (=) 1 ordered by headline
           descending. The main usage is with {item..} syntax - just like:
               {item:{ids:...}:_#HEADLINE}
         - new Conditions and Sortorder classes (used for conditions...)


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[Apc-aa-coders] content4d->storeItem problem

[Kasper S. <kas...@gm...>]

I'm trying to add items to the AA database. I've been going through
item_content.php3, but I'm not getting very far. I don't get any error
messages, and I'm wondering why my code isn't doing what I think
it should be doing. Here's the essential part:

  //some existing item ID
  $item_id = "287d9598489ad916c631c06f34cee87c";
  $content_array = GetItemContent($item_id);

  $item_id = new_id();
  $content4id = new ItemContent($content_array);
  $content4id->setItemID($item_id);
  $added_to_db = $content4id->storeItem('insert',
                                          $invalidatecache = true,
$feed = true);

What could I be doing wrong?

Could it be that the installation needs to be upgraded?
I can't find a specific version number, but from the dates in the
directory it seems to have been released April or June 2005.

Re: [Apc-aa-coders] event table missing

[Honza M. <hon...@ec...>]

Hi Norbert,

   I'm quite sure the sql_update.php3 script was updated about two weeks
ago and event table is there. I personally updated some AA installations
and it is working.

   Anyway, there is event table structure:

CREATE TABLE `event` (
  `id` varchar(32) NOT NULL default '' COMMENT 'record id',
  `type` varchar(32) NOT NULL default '' COMMENT 'type of event',
  `class` varchar(32) default NULL COMMENT 'used for event condition',
  `selector` varchar(255) default NULL COMMENT 'used for event condition =
- mostly id of changed item, ...',
  `reaction` varchar(50) NOT NULL default '' COMMENT 'name of php class w=
hich is invoked when the event come',
  `params` text COMMENT 'parameters for reaction object',
  PRIMARY KEY  (`id`),
  KEY `type_class` (`type`,`class`),
  KEY `type_selector` (`type`,`selector`(32))
) ENGINE=3DInnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=3Dcp1250 COMMENT=3D'list of all event r=
eactions. Stores also conditions, when re';


   Regards,
               Honza

Norbert Brazda p=ED=B9e v =DAt 11. 04. 2006 v 14:23 +0200:
> Functions in apc-aa/include/event.class.php3 use "event" table (e.g. SQ=
L=20
> query "SELECT params FROM event WHERE ...") but that table does not exi=
st.
>=20
> Honza, can you post here structure or CREATE TABLE query for that table=
=20
> and update sql_update.php3?
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[Apc-aa-coders] event table missing

[Norbert B. <br...@ch...>]

Functions in apc-aa/include/event.class.php3 use "event" table (e.g. SQL 
query "SELECT params FROM event WHERE ...") but that table does not exist.

Honza, can you post here structure or CREATE TABLE query for that table 
and update sql_update.php3?


n.

[Apc-aa-coders] AA_INSTALL_EDIT_PATH and _#EDITITEM alias

[Norbert B. <br...@ch...>]

Code pasted bellow was removed from include/config.php3 and caused 
_#EDITITEM aliases to be unusable on pages other than AA admin (e.g. 
pages created in site module). Parsed urls are missing "/apc-aa/admin/" 
path.

What was the reason for removing that code? I would like to put it back.

===
  /** URL or URL path to call admin/edititem.php etc. 	
   *  This is the variable to make _#EDITITEM alias, etc. 	
   *  If your site has problem set... 	
   *       $AA_INSTAL_EDIT_PATH = "/".$AA_BASE_DIR;       */ 	
  $AA_INSTAL_EDIT_PATH = AA_INSTAL_URL;           // do not change 	
===



norbert
br...@ch...

[Apc-aa-coders] Strange problem with indexes on content table

[Marek T. <ma...@gn...>]

Hi,
I had a weirdest problem today. After an upgrade from MySQL 3.23 to=20
4.0.24_Debian-10sarge1 I have experienced an unbelievable perfrormance=20
drop with ActionApps. The content table has almost 1Gb which makes any=20
problems very noticeable. Even this query (no wildcards %) took about 20=20
sec.:

SELECT DISTINCT item.id as itemid ,item.publish_date,c1.number FROM item=20
INNER JOIN content as c0 ON (c0.item_id=3Ditem.id AND=20
(c0.field_id=3D'unspecified....1' OR c0.field_id is NULL)) INNER JOIN=20
content as c1 ON (c1.item_id=3Ditem.id AND (c1.field_id=3D'start_date....=
.2'=20
OR c1.field_id is NULL)) WHERE item.slice_id IN ( 'RX=E5=1Cp=87~=EDJ=10=B6=
=D4 |=06=F3' )=20
AND ( ( item.status_code=3D1 AND ( item.publish_date <=3D '1144061000' OR=
=20
item.publish_date IS NULL ) AND (item.expiry_date > '1144061000' OR=20
item.expiry_date IS NULL) ) ) AND ( (c0.number =3D "1") ) ORDER BY=20
item.publish_date DESC,c1.number DESC

The EXPLAIN showed:
c0 ALL item_id NULL NULL NULL 823268 Using where; Using temporary; Using=20
filesort
item eq_ref PRIMARY,slice_id_2,expiry_date PRIMARY 16 c0.item_id 1 Using=20
where
c1 ref item_id item_id 16 item.id 8232 Using where

I've never seen the NULL NULL there and obviously, using temporary=20
tables on 823268 records from the 1GB content table is a highway to=20
hell. Since the JOIN joins c0 on item_id, I tried to add another index=20
for content table called itemid, indexing solely the index_id column.=20
This in theory should not help at all, but in fact it made a dramatic=20
change, now it works correctly (on my other AA installations it also=20
works similar to this):

item range PRIMARY,slice_id_2,expiry_date slice_id_2 27 NULL 8032 Using=20
where; Using temporary; Using filesort
c0 ref item_id,itemid itemid 16 item.id 13 Using where
c1 ref item_id,itemid item_id 16 item.id 13 Using where

Anybody has any idea why this could be ? I'll remove the itemid index=20
later too see if it just was a matter of pushing mysql query optimizer=20
but at the moment I'm just happy.

Best
Marek

Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Changes in AA CVS - 2006/02/28

[Honza M. <hon...@ec...>]

Norbert Brazda p=ED=B9e v P=E1 03. 03. 2006 v 14:08 +0100:
> Honza Malik wrote:
> > Not sure, if I understand. But if you have multiple item ids in say
> > relation........ field, then you can use:
> >=20
> >     {item:{@relation........:-}:_HEADLINE:, }
> >=20
> > Of course you can use any field/alias/aa_expression instead of
> > _#HEADLINE, so you can display also multivalues by this alias in targ=
et
> > item.
>=20
> Several (the same) headlines of current item (instead of headlines of=20
> related items) are shown if I use {headline........} instead of _#HEADL=
INE.
>=20
> Bug or feature?

This is quite logical behavior. If you use:

 {item:{@relation........:-}:{headline........}:, }

then AA evaluating from innermost curly brackets (as always). If your
current item has headline "Hi Norbert", then the first evaluation step
would be:

 {item:63553633737383784664737-7363563553453532424:Hi Norbert:, }

which means, that for both items AA will print "Hi Norbert" - comma
separated.=20

   Honza

Email notification (Was: [Apc-aa-coders] Changes in AA CVS - 2006/02/28)

[Norbert B. <br...@ch...>]

Honza Malik wrote:
  >> Is it possible to use email notification of new discussion comments 
also
>> for items added to the standard slice (we use standard slice instead of 
>> AA's discussions to store and show comments).
> 
> So you are using normal items for the comments? In that case we have
> "Slice Admin -> Email Notification". However - you need to set it
> manually through admin interface - there is not automatic subscription
> like in new discussions.

I think that Alerts would be perfect for that purpose if I could define 
filter conditions on the fly (now I can't).

User could store articles he wants to watch discussions into its (reader 
management) profile and alerts will grab conditions from there, create 
content and send to user.

Another problem with filter conditions is that I have to define it 
manually. We use Alerts for sending action letters (or petition 
signatures) by email to the authorties. With each new 
campaign/actionletter/petition (an item in normal slice) I have to edit 
alerts selection set view and create new condition with id of that item. 
Moreover I have to go do Alerts' slice, add new selection into alerts' 
choices and then update selections available to users in reader 
management slice.

Do you think that this could be somehow (easily) improved?



>     {item:{@relation........:-}:_HEADLINE:, }

Thanks, exactly what I wanted!


n.

Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Changes in AA CVS - 2006/02/28

[Honza M. <hon...@ec...>]

Norbert Brazda p=ED=B9e v =DAt 28. 02. 2006 v 12:30 +0100:
> I saw these changes in the CVS few days ago. I think there are usefull=20
> improvements there. Thanks, Honza!
>=20
> I hope AA still does run also under php4. Does it?

Yes. It runs under PHP4 as well as PHP5. The plan was that the version
2.8.2 will be the last, which will work with PHP4 because we want to use
PHP5 features - like autoloading of classes, lazy evaluation... However,
we are still not happy with PHP 5 stability - there is no stable
accelerator for it. We tried APC, which was useless since it breaks some
SSI pages. Now we are evaluating eAcelerator from CVS which is better,
but still not in final version and it sometimes makes "Segmentation
fault".

> Is it possible to use email notification of new discussion comments als=
o=20
> for items added to the standard slice (we use standard slice instead of=
=20
> AA's discussions to store and show comments).

So you are using normal items for the comments? In that case we have
"Slice Admin -> Email Notification". However - you need to set it
manually through admin interface - there is not automatic subscription
like in new discussions.

> How can I display multiple values from multivalue field (i.e. multiple=20
> items, but one item with multivalue filed) using {item::} syntax?

Not sure, if I understand. But if you have multiple item ids in say
relation........ field, then you can use:

    {item:{@relation........:-}:_HEADLINE:, }

Of course you can use any field/alias/aa_expression instead of
_#HEADLINE, so you can display also multivalues by this alias in target
item.

   Honza

>=20
>=20
> n.
>=20
> Honza Malik wrote:
> > Current CVS state:=20
> >    Stable - used on Econnect's production server for 4 days=20
> >             (PHP Version 5.1.2, eAccelerator 0.9.5-cvs200602202359-de=
v,
> >              MySQL 4.1.15)
> >=20
> > It is nearly last changes before AA 2.8.2 release
> >=20
> > 02/28/06 - New test environment. Created new abstract class Otimize (=
test.php3),
> > (honzam)   from which you (as programmer) can create new testing and =
possibly
> >            repair scripts. For now we have two tests/repairs
> >              - finding unnecessary duplicate records in relation tabl=
e
> >              - conversion of permissions for items, which was filled =
by some
> >                reader from Reader slice.
> >            Run /test.php3 for more details.
> >          - HTMLArea generates shorter <p> tags (instead of javascript=
 nonsence)
> >          - Fixed deletion of temporary uploaded files
> >          - SQL query optimalization in perm_core.php3
> >          - Fixed bug with Links module - in some specific cases the l=
ink was
> >            not updated
> >          - Fixed caching problem - the cache is not invalidated as wh=
ole after
> >            site update
> > 02/19/06 - Discussions updated
> > (honzam)     - author/email/url is stored in cookies, so readers do n=
ot need to
> >                fill it twice. No new setting of discussion is needed =
-it works
> >                as is.
> >              - Authors of the article as well as authors of the comme=
nt could
> >                be notified about new posted comment by email
> >                see: http://actionapps.org/en/Interacting_With_Your_Au=
dience#Tip_2:_New_comment_notification
> >          - {item:<ids>:<aa_expression>[:<delimiter>]} code now allows=
 to specify
> >            more than one ID in <ids>. <ids> should be dash "-" separa=
ted
> >            and could be in short as well as long form. You can specif=
y also
> >            record delimiter as fourth parameter. If not present no de=
limiter is
> >            used. Example: {item:53443-54322-53553:_HEADLINE:, }
> >          - "Modify content" function of AA admin interface improved:
> >               - now is able to set/unset also HTML/text flag
> >               - now also able to copy content of another field
> >                 (exactly as is - including multivalues!)
> >          - You can display all informations about specified item
> >            on "AA -> AA Finder" page, now
> >          - CSV import improved
> >              - fixed problem with tabelator as delimiter,
> >              - code converted to standard Files::upload functions
> >          - Slice name with link is now displayed on "Admin -> RSS Fee=
ds" page
> >          - Fixed PHP5 related bugs
> >              - New configuration variables DB_CHARACTER_SET and
> >                DB_COLLATION_CONNECTION which is needed by MySQL 4.1 a=
nd PHP5
> >                when you do not want to comunicate with database in UT=
F
> >              - Offline filing now do not crash on WDDX_unserialize (p=
hp5 bug).
> >              - "30 Nov 1999" date bug
> >          - The data for offline filling could be submited not only in=
 offline
> >            parameter, but you can send it also as uploaded file
> >            (in offline.php3)
> >          - Fixed problem with uploads to the "Slice Setting Fields"
> >          - Fixed some problems with setting permissions to users from=
 Reader
> >            Management slice (bugs introduced by changing identificati=
on of users
> >            from login name to item_id some time ago (08/30/05))
> >          - Fixed site/slice caching
> >              - now invalidated after spot move...
> >              - the cache is not cleared completely after slice settin=
g change,
> >                but only for current slice (and all related views and =
sites,
> >                of course)
> >              - view cache now count with all set[] parameters, so the=
 view is
> >                generated well even if you use set[] command for neste=
d view
> >                (just like in view.php3?vid=3D1781&set[997]=3Dselected=
-759644)
> >          - Fixed e-mail notify setting page - no wrong slashes added =
to the text
> >          - Fixed bug in cross server feeding, which causes relation t=
able
> >            is filled with the rows where both values are the same
> >          - New internal API for views which allows to cache views def=
inition
> >            within one php script call
> > 02/14/06 - fixed a bug in MLXGetText - setlang should be used to set =
the lang
> > (mimo)     forcefully
> >          - &errcheck=3D1 now works for MLXGetText
> > 02/10/06 - fixed a bug in mlx.php which messed up sharing one MLX Con=
trol Slice
> > (mimo)     between multiple content slice
> > #
> > #        (incomplete)
> >          - hardcoded table for fulltext of discussion do not have wid=
th=3D100%
> >            now, because it makes troubles in IE on pages with CSS lay=
out
> > 12/30/05 - computed fields can compute also with self content as well=
 as with
> > (honzam)   content of others computed fields, now
> > 12/23/05 - fixed security problem, when readers was able to read slic=
e_pwd
> > (honzam)
> > 12/21/05 - HTMLarea/Xinha updated to work with Firefox 1.5 and some s=
mall
> > (brazda)   changes in the plugins (InsertFile)
> > 12/16/05 - now also Reader Management modules are shown in Input type=
 selecbox
> > (brazda)   on Field settings page
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
>=20
--=20

Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Changes in AA CVS - 2006/02/28

[Norbert B. <br...@ch...>]

I saw these changes in the CVS few days ago. I think there are usefull 
improvements there. Thanks, Honza!


I hope AA still does run also under php4. Does it?

Is it possible to use email notification of new discussion comments also 
for items added to the standard slice (we use standard slice instead of 
AA's discussions to store and show comments).

How can I display multiple values from multivalue field (i.e. multiple 
items, but one item with multivalue filed) using {item::} syntax?


n.

Honza Malik wrote:
> Current CVS state: 
>    Stable - used on Econnect's production server for 4 days 
>             (PHP Version 5.1.2, eAccelerator 0.9.5-cvs200602202359-dev,
>              MySQL 4.1.15)
> 
> It is nearly last changes before AA 2.8.2 release
> 
> 02/28/06 - New test environment. Created new abstract class Otimize (test.php3),
> (honzam)   from which you (as programmer) can create new testing and possibly
>            repair scripts. For now we have two tests/repairs
>              - finding unnecessary duplicate records in relation table
>              - conversion of permissions for items, which was filled by some
>                reader from Reader slice.
>            Run /test.php3 for more details.
>          - HTMLArea generates shorter <p> tags (instead of javascript nonsence)
>          - Fixed deletion of temporary uploaded files
>          - SQL query optimalization in perm_core.php3
>          - Fixed bug with Links module - in some specific cases the link was
>            not updated
>          - Fixed caching problem - the cache is not invalidated as whole after
>            site update
> 02/19/06 - Discussions updated
> (honzam)     - author/email/url is stored in cookies, so readers do not need to
>                fill it twice. No new setting of discussion is needed -it works
>                as is.
>              - Authors of the article as well as authors of the comment could
>                be notified about new posted comment by email
>                see: http://actionapps.org/en/Interacting_With_Your_Audience#Tip_2:_New_comment_notification
>          - {item:<ids>:<aa_expression>[:<delimiter>]} code now allows to specify
>            more than one ID in <ids>. <ids> should be dash "-" separated
>            and could be in short as well as long form. You can specify also
>            record delimiter as fourth parameter. If not present no delimiter is
>            used. Example: {item:53443-54322-53553:_HEADLINE:, }
>          - "Modify content" function of AA admin interface improved:
>               - now is able to set/unset also HTML/text flag
>               - now also able to copy content of another field
>                 (exactly as is - including multivalues!)
>          - You can display all informations about specified item
>            on "AA -> AA Finder" page, now
>          - CSV import improved
>              - fixed problem with tabelator as delimiter,
>              - code converted to standard Files::upload functions
>          - Slice name with link is now displayed on "Admin -> RSS Feeds" page
>          - Fixed PHP5 related bugs
>              - New configuration variables DB_CHARACTER_SET and
>                DB_COLLATION_CONNECTION which is needed by MySQL 4.1 and PHP5
>                when you do not want to comunicate with database in UTF
>              - Offline filing now do not crash on WDDX_unserialize (php5 bug).
>              - "30 Nov 1999" date bug
>          - The data for offline filling could be submited not only in offline
>            parameter, but you can send it also as uploaded file
>            (in offline.php3)
>          - Fixed problem with uploads to the "Slice Setting Fields"
>          - Fixed some problems with setting permissions to users from Reader
>            Management slice (bugs introduced by changing identification of users
>            from login name to item_id some time ago (08/30/05))
>          - Fixed site/slice caching
>              - now invalidated after spot move...
>              - the cache is not cleared completely after slice setting change,
>                but only for current slice (and all related views and sites,
>                of course)
>              - view cache now count with all set[] parameters, so the view is
>                generated well even if you use set[] command for nested view
>                (just like in view.php3?vid=1781&set[997]=selected-759644)
>          - Fixed e-mail notify setting page - no wrong slashes added to the text
>          - Fixed bug in cross server feeding, which causes relation table
>            is filled with the rows where both values are the same
>          - New internal API for views which allows to cache views definition
>            within one php script call
> 02/14/06 - fixed a bug in MLXGetText - setlang should be used to set the lang
> (mimo)     forcefully
>          - &errcheck=1 now works for MLXGetText
> 02/10/06 - fixed a bug in mlx.php which messed up sharing one MLX Control Slice
> (mimo)     between multiple content slice
> #
> #        (incomplete)
>          - hardcoded table for fulltext of discussion do not have width=100%
>            now, because it makes troubles in IE on pages with CSS layout
> 12/30/05 - computed fields can compute also with self content as well as with
> (honzam)   content of others computed fields, now
> 12/23/05 - fixed security problem, when readers was able to read slice_pwd
> (honzam)
> 12/21/05 - HTMLarea/Xinha updated to work with Firefox 1.5 and some small
> (brazda)   changes in the plugins (InsertFile)
> 12/16/05 - now also Reader Management modules are shown in Input type selecbox
> (brazda)   on Field settings page
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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[Apc-aa-coders] Changes in AA CVS - 2006/02/28

[Honza M. <hon...@ec...>]

Current CVS state: 
   Stable - used on Econnect's production server for 4 days 
            (PHP Version 5.1.2, eAccelerator 0.9.5-cvs200602202359-dev,
             MySQL 4.1.15)

It is nearly last changes before AA 2.8.2 release

02/28/06 - New test environment. Created new abstract class Otimize (test.php3),
(honzam)   from which you (as programmer) can create new testing and possibly
           repair scripts. For now we have two tests/repairs
             - finding unnecessary duplicate records in relation table
             - conversion of permissions for items, which was filled by some
               reader from Reader slice.
           Run /test.php3 for more details.
         - HTMLArea generates shorter <p> tags (instead of javascript nonsence)
         - Fixed deletion of temporary uploaded files
         - SQL query optimalization in perm_core.php3
         - Fixed bug with Links module - in some specific cases the link was
           not updated
         - Fixed caching problem - the cache is not invalidated as whole after
           site update
02/19/06 - Discussions updated
(honzam)     - author/email/url is stored in cookies, so readers do not need to
               fill it twice. No new setting of discussion is needed -it works
               as is.
             - Authors of the article as well as authors of the comment could
               be notified about new posted comment by email
               see: http://actionapps.org/en/Interacting_With_Your_Audience#Tip_2:_New_comment_notification
         - {item:<ids>:<aa_expression>[:<delimiter>]} code now allows to specify
           more than one ID in <ids>. <ids> should be dash "-" separated
           and could be in short as well as long form. You can specify also
           record delimiter as fourth parameter. If not present no delimiter is
           used. Example: {item:53443-54322-53553:_HEADLINE:, }
         - "Modify content" function of AA admin interface improved:
              - now is able to set/unset also HTML/text flag
              - now also able to copy content of another field
                (exactly as is - including multivalues!)
         - You can display all informations about specified item
           on "AA -> AA Finder" page, now
         - CSV import improved
             - fixed problem with tabelator as delimiter,
             - code converted to standard Files::upload functions
         - Slice name with link is now displayed on "Admin -> RSS Feeds" page
         - Fixed PHP5 related bugs
             - New configuration variables DB_CHARACTER_SET and
               DB_COLLATION_CONNECTION which is needed by MySQL 4.1 and PHP5
               when you do not want to comunicate with database in UTF
             - Offline filing now do not crash on WDDX_unserialize (php5 bug).
             - "30 Nov 1999" date bug
         - The data for offline filling could be submited not only in offline
           parameter, but you can send it also as uploaded file
           (in offline.php3)
         - Fixed problem with uploads to the "Slice Setting Fields"
         - Fixed some problems with setting permissions to users from Reader
           Management slice (bugs introduced by changing identification of users
           from login name to item_id some time ago (08/30/05))
         - Fixed site/slice caching
             - now invalidated after spot move...
             - the cache is not cleared completely after slice setting change,
               but only for current slice (and all related views and sites,
               of course)
             - view cache now count with all set[] parameters, so the view is
               generated well even if you use set[] command for nested view
               (just like in view.php3?vid=1781&set[997]=selected-759644)
         - Fixed e-mail notify setting page - no wrong slashes added to the text
         - Fixed bug in cross server feeding, which causes relation table
           is filled with the rows where both values are the same
         - New internal API for views which allows to cache views definition
           within one php script call
02/14/06 - fixed a bug in MLXGetText - setlang should be used to set the lang
(mimo)     forcefully
         - &errcheck=1 now works for MLXGetText
02/10/06 - fixed a bug in mlx.php which messed up sharing one MLX Control Slice
(mimo)     between multiple content slice
#
#        (incomplete)
         - hardcoded table for fulltext of discussion do not have width=100%
           now, because it makes troubles in IE on pages with CSS layout
12/30/05 - computed fields can compute also with self content as well as with
(honzam)   content of others computed fields, now
12/23/05 - fixed security problem, when readers was able to read slice_pwd
(honzam)
12/21/05 - HTMLarea/Xinha updated to work with Firefox 1.5 and some small
(brazda)   changes in the plugins (InsertFile)
12/16/05 - now also Reader Management modules are shown in Input type selecbox
(brazda)   on Field settings page





-- 

[Apc-aa-coders] Changes in AA CVS - 2005/12/15

[Honza M. <hon...@ec...>]

Current CVS state: 
   Should be stable, but not tested on our production server, yet

12/15/05 - user data (like password, name, e-mail) is now editable by users
(honzam)   itself (just click on your login name in upper right corner
           of the page - near the "Logout")
         - new {@fieldlist} syntax construct, which lists all field names
           in the item. The syntax is exactly the same as you already know from
           {@category.......1} syntax, so you can use also:
              {@fieldlist:-},
              {@fieldlist:,:<b>_#1</b>}
              as well as {@fieldlist(_#CSV_FMTD):,:_#1}.
           For more info see {@category.......1} or {list:category.......1}
           syntax in the manual.
           Could be used for example to create general CSV export from the slice
              Odd HTML is: {@fieldlist(_#CSV_FMTD):,:_#1}, where
              _#CSV_FMTD is defined as f_t and with parameter:
                  {alias:{loop............}:f_t::csv}.
         - new operators added to searchbar (in ItemManager):
             "not set" (= ISNULL),
             "is set" (= NOTNULL)
           so you can search for items, where specified field is (not) set
         - changed behavior of unary operators ISNULL and NOTNULL - Those
           operators did not work without "value" specified, which was quite
           strange, for unary operators. Now it works without any value
           specified.
         - top HTML for discussions now can contain aliases (and other
           constructs), just like for any other view
         - new configuration option TOEXECUTE_ALLOWED_TIME which defines, how
           long should be processed tasks from "toexecute" queue
         - added better support for bulgarian language translation
         - log class prepared for the possibility to turn off logging
           of specifis events (UI needed)
         - searchform in ItemManager and LinksManager uses GET mathod,
           which is more user friendly
         - discussions code a bit cleaned
         - fixed problem with session on for some special Apache configuration,
           when some server variables are not filled (Bluelink case)
         - fixed all_ids parameter in discussions - now works also for GET,
           not only for POST forms
         - fixed problem with "break;" outside of the loop (APC PHP cache had
           problems with this)

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[Apc-aa-coders] usr_aliasfnc.php3 - should it or should it not?

[Michael M. <mi...@gn...>]

I have just noticed that my own stringexpand_ functions defined in 
usr_aliasfnc.php3 don't get expanded in email alerts? does it get included by 
that or is it something else?

thanks

mimo

[Apc-aa-coders] Changes in AA CVS - 2005/11/24

[Honza M. <hon...@ec...>]

Current CVS state: 
   Should be stable, but not tested on our production server, yet


11/24/05 - anonymous wizard refactored a bit, generate better code and is 
(honzam)   functional, now (thanks goes to Norbert Brazda for bugfixing)
         - Spanish language translation updated (thanks to Julian Casasbuenas from
           Colnodo)
         - new possibility to remove selected items from database (see "Remove 
           (remove from database)" bottom action on Item Manager - Trash page)
         - fixed language constants 
11/21/05 - fixed typo in sql_update.php3 - Thanks to Omar Martinez and Misi Bako
11/15/05 - fixed not functional image upload, when we want upload multiple
(honzam)   images and create multiple thumbnails in one inputform

Re: [Apc-aa-coders] Bug: get_js_validation

[Honza M. <hon...@ec...>]

Yes, the bug was reported, I know about it and I will fix it. I will try
to do it before tomorrow, but I can't say I will catch it.=20

   Honza


Marek Tichy p=ED=B9e v St 23. 11. 2005 v 12:36 +0200:
> Hi,
> There is a bug in CVS and also ECN install,  when trying to generate th=
e=20
> anonymous form you get the
> <b>Fatal error</b>:  Call to undefined function:  get_js_validation() i=
n=20
> <b>/data/www/htdocs/aa.ecn.cz/aa-2.8.2/admin/anonym_wizard.php3</b> on=20
> line <b>91</b><br />
>=20
> The function no longer seems to be in include/sliceobj.php3
> Hit during a training, so slighty embarrasig. Is there a chance to fix=20
> and demonstrate again tomorrow ?
>=20
> Thanks a lot
>  Marek
>=20
--=20

[Apc-aa-coders] Bug: get_js_validation

[Marek T. <ma...@gn...>]

Hi,
There is a bug in CVS and also ECN install,  when trying to generate the 
anonymous form you get the
<b>Fatal error</b>:  Call to undefined function:  get_js_validation() in 
<b>/data/www/htdocs/aa.ecn.cz/aa-2.8.2/admin/anonym_wizard.php3</b> on 
line <b>91</b><br />

The function no longer seems to be in include/sliceobj.php3
Hit during a training, so slighty embarrasig. Is there a chance to fix 
and demonstrate again tomorrow ?

Thanks a lot
 Marek

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Re: [Apc-aa-coders] ning.com inspiration for next version of AA

[Mitra <mi...@mi...>]

Hi Norbert

Thanks for the analysis -

Saying that "Tagging support" is just adding a multi-value field is a 
bit over-simplifying. There are a whole bunch of things around 
Tagging (sharing tags, seeing which ones are most popular, seeing 
which other tags are common with the tag you are looking on etc etc).

Simplifying it would be the same mistake that AA made with Blogging, 
and why AA still has poor integration with the blog world (simple RSS 
creation, trackbacks, using shared logins such as technorati etc etc)

In general the discussion in these environments is taking place at a 
level higher than AA works, and developing applications in it is MUCH 
simpler.  For example - putting together an XML->map application in 
Google's API was a couple of hours work, you could do it in AA, but 
you'd be working at a much lower level and it would take a few days 
(at a minimum).

(note I'm not advocating using Ning, I haven't looked at it enough to 
know what applications it is good, or bad for).

- Mitra

At 6:02 PM +0100 31/10/05, Norbert Brazda wrote:
>Marek Tichy wrote:
>>  From the docs it's not clear it's a shared database, one can use 
>>SOAP (a polished XML/RPC) to fetch (thus share) the data. I quite 
>>like SOAP.
>>I doubt it's a shared database as in the whole Ning is just a bunch 
>>of useful php classes, and you write apps in php (= can read DB 
>>password  = that's why we don't have php in AA).  I think they mean 
>>you have several apps within your workspace and they can exchange 
>>data by calling each other methods for fetching content.
>
>You have access to the storage only through API calls so you do not 
>need the db password as far as I understood the docs. Content can be 
>stored in separate user databases, but it is transparently 
>accessible without the need to care about db connections, table 
>structure, etc. You just register, create application (you are the 
>owner) which let users to create/edit/delete content objects and put 
>them into the data store. You/application can mark objects as either 
>public (accessible from all other applications, not just yours) or 
>private (not accessible nor visible from other apps).
>
>Beside PHP you can use what they call XNHTML expressions. E.g.
>
><xn:out value="${Content[1234].my.photo}" />
><c:forEach items="collection" [var="variable"]
>         [varStatus="variable"] [begin="index"]
>         [end="index"] [step="step"] > body
></c:forEach>
>
>
>Marek, is Ning close to "AA as a flexible datastore with good API 
>for use in other tools" you were talking at AACamp?
>
>>BTW, we have talked with Mark about adding tagging into ActionApps. 
>>Haven't done much on that front and I'm not sure I will, but 
>>doesn't do any harm to mention....
>
>Isn't tagging support just question of one "multiple textfiled" with 
>some AJAX glitters (or simple anonymous edit form) to update its 
>content?  Or better - separate slice where user (with author perms) 
>can store tags with "tag title" field and "tag relation" field 
>pointing to the tagged item.
>
>Perhaps "live checkbox" could be extended a litle to provide the 
>functionality needed for "tagging".
>
>It would be nice to code tagging support (or any other new feature) 
>as much general as possible. So it adds functionality that can be 
>re-used also for other purposes.
>
>
>
>norbert
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Re: [Apc-aa-coders] ning.com inspiration for next version of AA

[Norbert B. <br...@ch...>]

Marek Tichy wrote:
>  From the docs it's not clear it's a shared database, one can use SOAP 
> (a polished XML/RPC) to fetch (thus share) the data. I quite like SOAP.
> I doubt it's a shared database as in the whole Ning is just a bunch of 
> useful php classes, and you write apps in php (= can read DB password  = 
> that's why we don't have php in AA).  I think they mean you have several 
> apps within your workspace and they can exchange data by calling each 
> other methods for fetching content.

You have access to the storage only through API calls so you do not need 
the db password as far as I understood the docs. Content can be stored 
in separate user databases, but it is transparently accessible without 
the need to care about db connections, table structure, etc. You just 
register, create application (you are the owner) which let users to 
create/edit/delete content objects and put them into the data store. 
You/application can mark objects as either public (accessible from all 
other applications, not just yours) or private (not accessible nor 
visible from other apps).

Beside PHP you can use what they call XNHTML expressions. E.g.

<xn:out value="${Content[1234].my.photo}" />
<c:forEach items="collection" [var="variable"]
         [varStatus="variable"] [begin="index"]
         [end="index"] [step="step"] > body
</c:forEach>


Marek, is Ning close to "AA as a flexible datastore with good API for 
use in other tools" you were talking at AACamp?



> BTW, we have talked with Mark about adding tagging into ActionApps. 
> Haven't done much on that front and I'm not sure I will, but doesn't do 
> any harm to mention....

Isn't tagging support just question of one "multiple textfiled" with 
some AJAX glitters (or simple anonymous edit form) to update its 
content?  Or better - separate slice where user (with author perms) can 
store tags with "tag title" field and "tag relation" field pointing to 
the tagged item.

Perhaps "live checkbox" could be extended a litle to provide the 
functionality needed for "tagging".

It would be nice to code tagging support (or any other new feature) as 
much general as possible. So it adds functionality that can be re-used 
also for other purposes.



norbert
br...@ch...

Re: [Apc-aa-coders] ning.com inspiration for next version of AA

[Mitra <mi...@mi...>]

Mark Graham and I went to a presentation by one of Ning's developers 
last week - pretty impressive.

It seems to me that it is an application building an environment, 
with API's designed around information sharing, tagging, and social 
networking, also around mapping.

The mapping component seems more of an alternative to Mapas or 
Google-Maps (which it uses) than an alternative to AA. But the 
structure seems at first glance to be interesting.

If someone wants to play with it, create a Ning account and apply for 
a "Developer" account. If it gets turned down let Mark or myself know 
and we'll make the introduction to the developer and see if we can 
get you an account that way.

- Mitra


At 5:10 PM +0100 31/10/05, Marek Tichy wrote:
>From the docs it's not clear it's a shared database, one can use 
>SOAP (a polished XML/RPC) to fetch (thus share) the data. I quite 
>like SOAP.
>I doubt it's a shared database as in the whole Ning is just a bunch 
>of useful php classes, and you write apps in php (= can read DB 
>password  = that's why we don't have php in AA).  I think they mean 
>you have several apps within your workspace and they can exchange 
>data by calling each other methods for fetching content.
>
>BTW, we have talked with Mark about adding tagging into ActionApps. 
>Haven't done much on that front and I'm not sure I will, but doesn't 
>do any harm to mention....
>
>Marek
>
>>
>>As far as I have heard, Ning is designed to create 'social 
>>software'  - i.e. friendster/orkut, classified ad, del.icio.us type 
>>sites where  people can share content, categorize by tagging etc. 
>>etc.
>>
>>The central idea here is also a 'shared database', so that multiple 
>>apps on the same server can access the same data. It looks 
>>interesting, but I didn't look much at the details. Did anyone try 
>>it  out?
>>
>>regards,
>>
>>Zoltan.
>>
>>
>>On Oct 31, 2005, at 2:46 PM, Norbert Brazda wrote:
>>
>>>Have anoyone seen www.ning.com? It is a content store with XML 
>>>object API for building custom applications in php. Among other 
>>>things it supports flexible data structure and sharing of content 
>>>between applications. While applications built on ning.com are 
>>>open  sourced (and you can clone them to start your own) the store 
>>>itself  is not.
>>>
>>>I think this is how AA should look in its next version.
>>>
>>>Added value might be AA's open source licence, better content 
>>>sharing, user interface for building applications (non-developers 
>>>like me who have idea but not enough skills to write php 
>>>application would appreciate that), etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>Here you will find more information:
>>>http://developerdocumentation.ning.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>norbert
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Re: [Apc-aa-coders] ning.com inspiration for next version of AA

[Marek T. <ma...@gn...>]

 From the docs it's not clear it's a shared database, one can use SOAP 
(a polished XML/RPC) to fetch (thus share) the data. I quite like SOAP.
I doubt it's a shared database as in the whole Ning is just a bunch of 
useful php classes, and you write apps in php (= can read DB password  = 
that's why we don't have php in AA).  I think they mean you have several 
apps within your workspace and they can exchange data by calling each 
other methods for fetching content.

BTW, we have talked with Mark about adding tagging into ActionApps. 
Haven't done much on that front and I'm not sure I will, but doesn't do 
any harm to mention....

Marek


>
> As far as I have heard, Ning is designed to create 'social software'  
> - i.e. friendster/orkut, classified ad, del.icio.us type sites where  
> people can share content, categorize by tagging etc. etc.
>
> The central idea here is also a 'shared database', so that multiple  
> apps on the same server can access the same data. It looks  
> interesting, but I didn't look much at the details. Did anyone try it  
> out?
>
> regards,
>
> Zoltan.
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2005, at 2:46 PM, Norbert Brazda wrote:
>
>> Have anoyone seen www.ning.com? It is a content store with XML  
>> object API for building custom applications in php. Among other  
>> things it supports flexible data structure and sharing of content  
>> between applications. While applications built on ning.com are open  
>> sourced (and you can clone them to start your own) the store itself  
>> is not.
>>
>> I think this is how AA should look in its next version.
>>
>> Added value might be AA's open source licence, better content  
>> sharing, user interface for building applications (non-developers  
>> like me who have idea but not enough skills to write php  application 
>> would appreciate that), etc.
>>
>>
>> Here you will find more information:
>> http://developerdocumentation.ning.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> norbert
>> br...@ch...
>>
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Re: [Apc-aa-coders] ning.com inspiration for next version of AA

[Zoltan V. <dr...@zp...>]

As far as I have heard, Ning is designed to create 'social software'  
- i.e. friendster/orkut, classified ad, del.icio.us type sites where  
people can share content, categorize by tagging etc. etc.

The central idea here is also a 'shared database', so that multiple  
apps on the same server can access the same data. It looks  
interesting, but I didn't look much at the details. Did anyone try it  
out?

regards,

Zoltan.


On Oct 31, 2005, at 2:46 PM, Norbert Brazda wrote:

> Have anoyone seen www.ning.com? It is a content store with XML  
> object API for building custom applications in php. Among other  
> things it supports flexible data structure and sharing of content  
> between applications. While applications built on ning.com are open  
> sourced (and you can clone them to start your own) the store itself  
> is not.
>
> I think this is how AA should look in its next version.
>
> Added value might be AA's open source licence, better content  
> sharing, user interface for building applications (non-developers  
> like me who have idea but not enough skills to write php  
> application would appreciate that), etc.
>
>
> Here you will find more information:
> http://developerdocumentation.ning.com/
>
>
>
> norbert
> br...@ch...
>
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[Apc-aa-coders] ning.com inspiration for next version of AA

[Norbert B. <br...@ch...>]

Have anoyone seen www.ning.com? It is a content store with XML object 
API for building custom applications in php. Among other things it 
supports flexible data structure and sharing of content between 
applications. While applications built on ning.com are open sourced (and 
you can clone them to start your own) the store itself is not.

I think this is how AA should look in its next version.

Added value might be AA's open source licence, better content sharing, 
user interface for building applications (non-developers like me who 
have idea but not enough skills to write php application would 
appreciate that), etc.


Here you will find more information:
http://developerdocumentation.ning.com/



norbert
br...@ch...