Re: [Anygui-devel] Disgruntled would-be user

[Magnus L. H. <ma...@he...>]

Laura Creighton <la...@st...>:
>
[snip]
> MLH, what you have demonstrated, at worst-best is the courage to
> fail.

Or just youthful exuberance and enthusiasm... or something ;)

> You think that this is a still live project, and I think that it has
> failed,

Well... I think it deserves the necessary work to get a 0.2 release
out the door -- all the work that went into the new architecture ought
to be able to crawl out of CVS.

On the other hand: The project does not seem as "live" as it did to me
originally. I guess one of the reasons I'm still motivated to work on
it is guilt about the sort of issues raised by our complaining
would-be user here. Not sure whether getting a release will really
help anyone there, though.

> and you all got my reasons as to why I think it has, as to why it
> has none of my current attention.

Right.

> What you did not get was what a pleasure and an honour it was to 
> participate with you all on the bits that did work.  I learned a ton!
> I now know exactly why weakrefs work, and use them in my work all the
> time.

Thanks! I've learned a lot too. (Among other things, I've used a very
explicit disclaimer about future support in describing my Atox
project, in the hope that I won't get into a situation like this
again.)

> to hell with this moron.

BTW, I wonderd a bit about what position this Sheltchin person had in
the Open Source community, and all I could find was this:

  http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,9768868~mode=flat

Basically a complaint about some changes made by his ISP. The last
sentence was quite enlightening:

  So after loosing a day of work notifying my customers that there may
  be a problem, wasting time with them on the phone as they routed me
  through all of the people who didn't understand, and opening other
  email accounts with another ISP - I am reduced to writing hate mail
  since they don't give a darn.

So writing hate mail seems to be a legitimate course of action to him.
Oh, well.

> creativity is best fostered in environments where it can take the risk
> of failing.

Indeed.

> being pleasurable to the peanut gallery, and being admired, is of
> secondary importance.  

I guess soo. But some of us (i.e. me) are, perhaps, a bit too hung up
on being liked -- or at least not being strongly disliked. But this is
all a learning experience, I suppose.

> Laura

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