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RE: [Anygui-users] Tutorial: in mswgui, click Event generates traceback (AS Python 2.2)

[Clark, C. <Chr...@ca...>]

Check out the anygui manual that you installed (or check out this one =
but I think this reflects the CVS version of anygui not the .1 version =
http://www.idi.ntnu.no/~mlh/anygui/anygui.html ) for the ANYGUI_WISHLIST =
OS variable.=20

E.g.

open dos prompt/command window and issue:


	set ANYGUI_WISHLIST=3Dwx

	REM run your script from here
	REM E.g.

	cd c:\
	python myscript.py

From the new docs it looks like this can be done programmatically in the =
newer version.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Prive [mailto:sco...@ea...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:19 AM
To: any...@li...
Subject: [Anygui-users] Tutorial: in mswgui, click Event generates
traceback (AS Python 2.2)

......
I installed wxWindows and
attempted to re-run the application. This did not help -- same error. =
Here I
assume because the tutorial code doesn't specify the toolkit, the =
"native"
UI has a higher priority than wxWindows. (If I can specify a default GUI
here, I have a potential workaround).
......

Re: [Anygui-users] Tutorial: in mswgui, click Event generates traceback (AS Python 2.2)

[Scott P. <sco...@ea...>]

OK; thanks. That link helps.

FYI -- those that install anygui 0.1.1 do not get this guide. The file does
not exist on the hard drive, nor is there a "program group" with a browser
link to online documentation. These comments are intended to be
understood -not- as complaints but as suggestions. :-)

What is the "state" of anygui 0.2? Are there major limitations or
regressions that would cause problems for users? Or is it simply no one's
had time to QA & package it?  At this time I don't know what the version
differences are.

cheers,

Scott



----- Original Message -----
From: "Clark, Chris" <Chr...@ca...>
To: "Scott Prive" <sco...@ea...>
Cc: <any...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Anygui-users] Tutorial: in mswgui, click Event generates
traceback (AS Python 2.2)


Check out the anygui manual that you installed (or check out this one but I
think this reflects the CVS version of anygui not the .1 version
http://www.idi.ntnu.no/~mlh/anygui/anygui.html ) for the ANYGUI_WISHLIST OS
variable.

E.g.

open dos prompt/command window and issue:


set ANYGUI_WISHLIST=wx

REM run your script from here
REM E.g.

cd c:\
python myscript.py

From the new docs it looks like this can be done programmatically in the
newer version.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Prive [mailto:sco...@ea...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:19 AM
To: any...@li...
Subject: [Anygui-users] Tutorial: in mswgui, click Event generates
traceback (AS Python 2.2)

......
I installed wxWindows and
attempted to re-run the application. This did not help -- same error. Here I
assume because the tutorial code doesn't specify the toolkit, the "native"
UI has a higher priority than wxWindows. (If I can specify a default GUI
here, I have a potential workaround).
......


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Re: [Anygui-users] Tutorial: in mswgui, click Event generates traceback (AS Python 2.2)

[Magnus L. H. <ma...@he...>]

Scott Prive <sco...@ea...>:
>
> OK; thanks. That link helps.
> 
> FYI -- those that install anygui 0.1.1 do not get this guide. The file does
> not exist on the hard drive,

I suppose that's a problem with the default Windows installer that
comes with Distutils, in that case. Very strange, though, as all the
documentation is present in the tar-file (try to download the 0.1.1
tar.gz file).

> nor is there a "program group" with a browser
> link to online documentation.

Again -- I just used the default Windows installer switch with
distutils.

> These comments are intended to be
> understood -not- as complaints but as suggestions. :-)

Thanks -- but I have no idea how to fix this.

> What is the "state" of anygui 0.2? Are there major limitations or
> regressions that would cause problems for users? Or is it simply no one's
> had time to QA & package it?  At this time I don't know what the version
> differences are.

The internals have been completely refactored and rewritten. 0.2 more
or less works, but, as you say, we haven't had time to QA and package
it. In this context, the QA would probably include implementing some
missing functionality etc. It's not all that far from a release in
terms of functionality, but I don't think there will be a release for
at least a couple of months, judging from the current activity.

> cheers,
> 
> Scott

-- 
Magnus Lie Hetland               "Nothing shocks me. I'm a scientist." 
http://hetland.org                                   -- Indiana Jones

Re: [Anygui-users] Tutorial: in mswgui, click Event generates traceback (AS Python 2.2)

[Scott P. <sco...@ea...>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Magnus Lie Hetland" <ma...@he...>
To: <any...@li...>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Anygui-users] Tutorial: in mswgui, click Event generates
traceback (AS Python 2.2)


[...]
> > These comments are intended to be
> > understood -not- as complaints but as suggestions. :-)
>
> Thanks -- but I have no idea how to fix this.

You might consider posting a "TODO:" webpage or CVS file. That way any
curious passers-by who look at the webpage (but not join the list) might see
tasks they can do. I do not know installer scripts myself and my current
priority is learning more Perl/Python (I'm unemployed).

If no one improves the installer some months down the road, I'll look at the
installer.

>
> > What is the "state" of anygui 0.2?

> The internals have been completely refactored and rewritten. 0.2 more
> or less works ... not all that far from a release in terms of
functionality

That sounds perfect to me. I'll upgrade to 0.2; hopefully I can provide some
good testing feedback.

The thing that really has me excited about this is the fallback all the way
to text- or curses- mode. Brewnix (brewnix.sf.net) has *two* independent
GUI's that are incomplete and lack feature parity. What's worse is those
efforts have stalled due to life's unexpected problems, and the authors are
no longer available for help.

Having a single, abstract API for UI - still with text support -  is a
fantastic goal (...and one that I wish the GNOME/KDE projects considered
more).

Re: [Anygui-users] Tutorial: in mswgui, click Event generates traceback (AS Python 2.2)

[Magnus L. H. <ma...@he...>]

Scott Prive <sco...@ea...>:
>
[snip]
> >
> > Thanks -- but I have no idea how to fix this.
> 
> You might consider posting a "TODO:" webpage or CVS file. That way any
> curious passers-by who look at the webpage (but not join the list) might see
> tasks they can do. I do not know installer scripts myself and my current
> priority is learning more Perl/Python (I'm unemployed).
> 
> If no one improves the installer some months down the road, I'll look at the
> installer.

The point is that this is a Distutils problem, not an Anygui problem;
at least as far as I can see. You could post a bug report to
distutils, perhaps.

[snip]
> That sounds perfect to me. I'll upgrade to 0.2; hopefully I can provide some
> good testing feedback.

That would be great -- just don't expect everything to work yet :]

[snip]
> Having a single, abstract API for UI - still with text support -  is a
> fantastic goal (...and one that I wish the GNOME/KDE projects considered
> more).

Thanks. I still have faith in the goal and the long-term fate of the
project, although -- as you may well have noticed -- things are quite
slow at the moment. Thorough testing might speed up the upcoming alpha
release, though, so go ahead and thrash out those bugs :)

(And you might want to check out the TODO and KNOWN_BUGS files.)

-- 
Magnus Lie Hetland               "Nothing shocks me. I'm a scientist." 
http://hetland.org                                   -- Indiana Jones

Re: [Anygui-users] Tutorial: in mswgui, click Event generates traceback (AS Python 2.2)

[Magnus L. H. <ma...@he...>]

Clark, Chris <Chr...@ca...>:
>
[snip]
> 
> >From the new docs it looks like this can be done programmatically
> >in the newer version.

Actually, that isn't implemented yet... The new doc is a bit ahead of
the implementation :]

> Chris

-- 
Magnus Lie Hetland               "Nothing shocks me. I'm a scientist." 
http://hetland.org                                   -- Indiana Jones