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From: arnuld <ar...@gm...> - 2006-12-15 05:50:10
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hai all, thisi my first post to the list. i read the "antomic philosophy": "The Antomic GNU/Linux distribution is created with simplicity and adaptability in mind. It's quick to install, setup and boot. The focus is on simplicity and convenience for experienced users." i really liked it but as i see there is no information available as of year 2006. last ISO was released in 2002, 4 years ago, after that no release has been made yet. it seemslike project development has stalled. i am willing to use "antomic" as my OS but it has very old softwares: GNU C Library 2.2.5 Linux 2.4.19 XFree86 4.2 GNOME 2.0.2 Mozilla 1.0 GCC 2.95.3 right now we have GCC 4.1.2, Linux kernel 2.6..18 & Firefox 2.0 available. Is anybody working on "antomic" to release "antomic 2006"? -- arnuld http://arnuld.blogspot.com/ |
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From: Patrick B. <plb...@te...> - 2003-06-04 17:15:16
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>Patrick Barnard wrote: > > Waiting for the next release of antomic, nothing much happening >other than trying the >gnome-system-tools 0.25.0. Can't compile them as they have a Gconf >2.0.2 or better >dependency. > > What happened to the WIKI page? > > > > -Patrick Barnard > Hi Patrick, > Have been very busy recently. Also having a severe lack of disk >space > here. Some people are having exams here, should get over soon. > Did you try compiling fontconfig 2.2? > -- > Bye for now, > Vinay Pawar > http://nodegroup.com/vinay/ Well, my last post did not make it, so I'll try again with a new ISP. I tried fontconfig 2.2. Compiled and installed with no problems and seems to running fine on my system. Projects I've been working lately have been upgrading to gcc 3.3, installing the i2c/lm_sensors packages and trying to make acpi work on my laptop. Still working on the third, got the second done, I do not recommend the gcc upgrade yet as linux 2.4.20 will not compile with the newest gcc version. I decided to stay with yhe 3.2 version. Thinking about trying to build mozilla from scratch. I run different distros and it's annoying downloading multiple versions of the same app. Also still pondering trying to install gnome 2.2.1 from source code. -Patrick Barnard -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |
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From: Patrick B. <plb...@te...> - 2003-05-22 02:13:51
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>From: Vinay Pawar <zoyd@gm...> >Re: GST 0.25.0 >2003-05-09 21:46 > Patrick Barnard wrote: > > Waiting for the next release of antomic, nothing much happening other >than trying the >gnome-system-tools 0.25.0. Can't compile them as they have a Gconf 2.0.2 or >better >dependency. > > What happened to the WIKI page? > > > > -Patrick Barnard > Hi Patrick, > Have been very busy recently. Also having a severe lack of disk space > here. Some people are having exams here, should get over soon. > Did you try compiling fontconfig 2.2? > -- > Bye for now, > Vinay Pawar > http://nodegroup.com/vinay/ Hmmm, this is neat. The mailing list is no longer sending to my e-mail account. If I had not looked at the sourceforge page, I would have missed this as well. Anyway, no, have not tried fontconfig 2.2. just downloaded it and will give it a shot. Getting a little busy myself doing some part time consulting here, so I don't get to to do the important stuff as much as before. -Patrick Barbard -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |
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From: Patrick B. <plb...@te...> - 2003-05-19 23:24:06
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Hello? Everybodys been mighty quiet lately. Even the wiki page is gone. I'm still waiting to see that new release od antomic. In the meantime, I updated the bash shell and thought about trying to comppile the source for mozilla, when I suggestion struck me. I think it would be a neat idea, if somewhere in the apkg specs, the options used to build the package (what is put on the ./configure line) would be handy. Thus a user could look to see what options were used originally when he/she goes to upgrade some part of the distro. -Patrick Barnard -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |
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From: Vinay P. <zo...@gm...> - 2003-05-10 04:46:48
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Patrick Barnard wrote: > Waiting for the next release of antomic, nothing much happening other than trying the gnome-system-tools 0.25.0. Can't compile them as they have a Gconf 2.0.2 or better dependency. > What happened to the WIKI page? > > -Patrick Barnard Hi Patrick, Have been very busy recently. Also having a severe lack of disk space here. Some people are having exams here, should get over soon. Did you try compiling fontconfig 2.2? -- Bye for now, Vinay Pawar http://nodegroup.com/vinay/ |
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From: Patrick B. <plb...@te...> - 2003-05-10 02:29:01
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Waiting for the next release of antomic, nothing much happening other than trying the gnome-system-tools 0.25.0. Can't compile them as they have a Gconf 2.0.2 or better dependency. What happened to the WIKI page? -Patrick Barnard -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |
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From: Vinay P. <zo...@gm...> - 2003-04-01 10:10:40
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Hi, Celebrating the start of the month of April we have some things to say. Now onwards the goal of the Antomic Project will drastically change. Some of the things that will be immediately visible in the coming days are as follows. The boring text based under-ten-minute installer will be dropped in favour of a nice looking Qt based graphical installer. The installer will also auto-detect and setup each and every piece of hardware that exists. Work is also underway to implement a auto-detection technology for hardware that hasn't been created yet. This innovative hardware detection technology will obviously be proprietary and not available to any one else. We have already filed for 9 patents in four different countries viz. USA, Barbados, Panama and Ghana. The installer will also for the first time include a special feature to preemptively guess and suggest what kind of software packages the user might need for the next 6 months. The algorithm used to accomplish this will use the users grocery buying patterns as input. For the users that live on the International Space Station, the code dynamically self-modifies itself to use the chemical composition of sweat and blood pressure as input. I've tested this recently and is fit for inclusion in the next release. This code as you might've guessed will be available under the GNU GPL. This Preemptive Guess and Suggest or PGS technology will also be available as a plugin for RPM, which we are going to use as our package management system. The decision to scrap the current sweet and simple shell-script based apkg and replace it with RPM is taken after technology journalists accused the project of being stone-age class. The project developers are also accused of accepting bribe from an extra terrestrial for not including RPM. This accusation is completely inaccurate, we've not yet received the bribe. We really believe that RPM is the way forward. There are some more of such features that you can expect from the future Antomic releases. The reason why we cannot talk about them right now is because we've signed a non-disclosure agreement with our pets. All of the above decisions have already been taken and won't be changed. But because we care so much about your emotional state of mind we'll love to listen to your suggestions and ideas. Yours truly, Vinay Pawar (aka zoyd) http://nodegroup.com/vinay/ |
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From: manny <ma...@Jo...> - 2003-03-30 08:20:15
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set the modem chmod to 666 chmod 666 /dev/modem chmod 666 /dev/ttySX where X is your modem port #. and maybe this link can help with Xterm http://mercury.chem.pitt.edu/~sasha/LinuxFocus/English/March1998/article24.h tml http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/Path http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/old/facilities/unix/LinuxPCs/x_window_system.html http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-hackers/2001-November/msg00003.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Barnard" <plb...@te...> To: <ant...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:11 AM Subject: [Antomic-user] Xterm and wvdialconf > Hi all, > Has anybody else noticed that an xterm session does not inherit the global system settings? Here's an example or two..set an alias in the profiles file under /etc...xterm does not inherit it, or start an xterm session and look for the MANPATH enviroment variable..you won't see it. > Also, I'm probably miussing the obvious, but I set up a normal user account for testing and I find that I cannot use wvdial or wvdialconf unless I'm root. If I try, they report the port of modem is busy. What am I not seeing? > > -Patrick Barnard > -- > __________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: > The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! > NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en > _______________________________________________ > Antomic-user mailing list > Ant...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/antomic-user > |
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From: Patrick B. <plb...@te...> - 2003-03-26 16:13:39
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Hi all, Has anybody else noticed that an xterm session does not inherit the global system settings? Here's an example or two..set an alias in the profiles file under /etc...xterm does not inherit it, or start an xterm session and look for the MANPATH enviroment variable..you won't see it. Also, I'm probably miussing the obvious, but I set up a normal user account for testing and I find that I cannot use wvdial or wvdialconf unless I'm root. If I try, they report the port of modem is busy. What am I not seeing? -Patrick Barnard -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |
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From: Patrick B. <plb...@te...> - 2003-03-17 19:56:50
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Hi All, I found a program call gujin hosted on the sourceforge site. This is a floppy bootloader program that is OS and Distro independent. Booting with this, gujin scans all drive partitions and fins all possible ways to boot. This means you do not need a copy opf the linux kernel on a floppy to boot the computer. Just put the disk in, boot, it scans the /boot folder and presents a menu of bootable kernels. I tried it on mine and it works great. Not quite ready yet for primetime on the hardrive, as a boot floppy its outstanding and can get your Anotmic up and running with ease. After you have Antomic booted, I would suggest installing lilo/grub for now. Just and FYI to, hopefully, answer some old posts. -Pat Barnard -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |
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From: Vinay P. <zo...@gm...> - 2003-03-13 16:55:18
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Patrick Barnard wrote: > Hello All, > > I noticed that when I try to build gdm from source code, be it the same version that came with antomic 0.02 or an upgrade it does not fully work. It compiles and installes, but when I use the graphical greeter, the x server refuses to start. If I use the text greeter, it works fine. If I use the pre-compiled version that came with antomic, the graphical greeter works fine. > Any body have this particualr problem? Any ideas on what might be causing it? > > Thanks. > > -Pat Barnard Hi, Some Antomic packages come with post installation scripts. Check /var/apkg/info/gdm-2.4.0.11_2.postinst Probably the 'chown' line in it may be necessary for the your compiled gdm install to work properly. Also check the configuration(gdmconfig). I'm a bit confused on what you mean by "text greeter". The gdm in gnome2 comes with two kinds of login interfaces, one uses the usual GTK widgets and is called 'gdmlogin', the other one uses SVG for themes and is called 'gdmgreeter'. Gdmgreeter is the pretty one with nice icons for "Session", "Quit", etc. Regards, Vinay Pawar http://nodegroup.com/vinay/ |
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From: Patrick B. <plb...@te...> - 2003-03-13 03:38:02
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Hello All, I noticed that when I try to build gdm from source code, be it the same version that came with antomic 0.02 or an upgrade it does not fully work. It compiles and installes, but when I use the graphical greeter, the x server refuses to start. If I use the text greeter, it works fine. If I use the pre-compiled version that came with antomic, the graphical greeter works fine. Any body have this particualr problem? Any ideas on what might be causing it? Thanks. -Pat Barnard -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |
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From: Vinay P. <zo...@gm...> - 2003-03-02 10:39:01
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"We're almost ready for release 2.2 of fontconfig. As XFree86 4.3 contains up-to-date versions of the X related libraries (Xrender, Xft and Xft1), release 2.2 is likely to contain just fontconfig. Pull prereleases from here[1], they'll be numbered 2.1.9x." [1] http://nexp.cs.pdx.edu/fontconfig/release/ -- Vinay Pawar http://nodegroup.com/vinay/ |
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From: Vinay P. <zo...@gm...> - 2003-02-27 19:04:11
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Yes, The 4.3.0 release of X Window System is out. Everyone at the Antomic project has been eagerly waiting for this one. Work has now started. -- Vinay Pawar http://nodegroup.com/vinay/ |
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From: Patrick B. <plb...@te...> - 2003-02-27 18:23:47
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> Just like you we're also waiting for the next Antomic GNU/Linux release. > It'll have X Window 4.3. So, we can't have a release until X 4.3 is out. > GNOME 2.2 can't be compiled on Antomic GNU/Linux 0.02 stock. It needs > fontconfig and Xft2, which are included in fcpackage. GNOME 2.2 will > almost completely replace all the stock GNOME 2.0.2 packages because > 2.2 is based on GTK+ 2.2.x. > My concern on this point is the growing number of apps that have a minimum requirment of gtk+2.2. I've still not had %100 success getting gnome 2.0.X to run with gtk+ 2.2. I can actually live without the newest, slickest version of gnome, but I'm finding I do need the latest gtk+ packages. -Pat -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |
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From: Dmitry D. <dim...@ma...> - 2003-02-27 08:51:18
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Hello All. To Antomic developers question. When following planed next Antomic release ? -- Dmitry Dudin dim...@ma... |
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From: Vinay P. <zo...@gm...> - 2003-02-26 07:46:43
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Hi, We have a wiki for users and developers here: http://antomic.sourceforge.net/wiki/ Use it for discussion topics, hacks, etc. related to the Antomic project. -- Thanks, Vinay Pawar http://nodegroup.com/vinay/ |
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From: Vinay P. <zo...@gm...> - 2003-02-26 04:50:27
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On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 10:11:32PM -0500, Patrick Barnard wrote: > > Repostiong the last, hoping for an answer and adding this question? If I wanted to install the Gnome 2.2 in my currect antomic distro, is it safe to say I just need to download, compile and install the updated packages of what came with gnome 2.0.2? Just like you we're also waiting for the next Antomic GNU/Linux release. It'll have X Window 4.3. So, we can't have a release until X 4.3 is out. GNOME 2.2 can't be compiled on Antomic GNU/Linux 0.02 stock. It needs fontconfig and Xft2, which are included in fcpackage. GNOME 2.2 will almost completely replace all the stock GNOME 2.0.2 packages because 2.2 is based on GTK+ 2.2.x. The Antomic Project mostly won't move as fast as Red Hat or Mandrake. I've noticed the latest versions of those having problems. Antomic is the only GNU/Linux I have here on both my boxes and I'm sure that others like you are using it too. This delay between releases happens because we want usable and stable systems. -- Vinay Pawar http://nodegroup.com/vinay/ |
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From: Patrick B. <plb...@te...> - 2003-02-26 03:26:08
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> Hi Patrick, > >> There's nothing particularly wrong with GLib warnings like that. A >> better way to debug apps that are sefaulting is to run the 'strace' >> program. Strace will produce detailed output of how the binary >>program >> is getting executed and store it in a file. There might be several >> reasons for a app to segfault, filesystem permissions, malformed >> metadata(XML), etc. >> There'll definately be some clue towards the end of the strace >>produced >> output, just before it segfaults. >> Just like strace there's also a ltrace, sorry don't remember it's >>use. >> Helped? >> -- > Vinay Pawar > http://nodegroup.com/vinay/ Repostiong the last, hoping for an answer and adding this question? If I wanted to install the Gnome 2.2 in my currect antomic distro, is it safe to say I just need to download, compile and install the updated packages of what came with gnome 2.0.2? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Honestly, it just confuses me more. I used strace to follow the execution of gnome-panel, gedit and gstones until they segfaulted. The out really does not tell me anything. I guess that's what happens when all your programming knowledge is about 12 years old. On another front...when will we see the long awaited update for Antomic? Will it include the new Xfree 4.3? And if I want to install 4.3rcX on anotmic now, is it better to download the pre-compiled binanries or should I get the source and compile it all myself? And yet another front...I've installed lpp to give me a neat graphic during boot-up instead of watching all the msgs go by...does anotmic have an official logo I could use...wouyld like to take a whack at creating a theme for lpp on antomic. -Pat -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |
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From: Patrick B. <plb...@te...> - 2003-02-21 19:02:06
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>From: Vinay Pawar <zoyd@gm...> > Re: Repost: gtk+ 2.2.1 and gnome not getting along >2003-02-17 21:02 > On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 09:54:07PM -0500, Patrick Barnard wrote: > > Reposting my original e-mail still hoping for an answer or some >kind of help to fix this. > > > > From: Patrick Barnard <plbarnard@te...> > > Problems with GTK+ 2.2.X and gnome ? > > 2003-02-14 20:39 > > > > OK, this is an update to my previous posts. I downloaded the >source for gnome (using the > > same versions as what I already) and compiled them on my computer. >After installing, I >have > > a few apps working, but most just segfault. These include gnome->panel, gedit, the gnome > > games, and gnome-terminal. Each starts, segfaults and leaves this >message in my > > .xsessions-errors file: > > > > GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot create instance of abstract (non->instantiatable) type > > `GtkWidget' > > > > Any idea what is causing this? I don't get the errors if I use a >gnome fail-safe >session. > > Also, I set up a new user with all the defaults and it still gives >me the same errors. > > > > in a word help!? > > > > -Pat > > -- > Hi Patrick, > There's nothing particularly wrong with GLib warnings like that. A > better way to debug apps that are sefaulting is to run the 'strace' > program. Strace will produce detailed output of how the binary >program > is getting executed and store it in a file. There might be several > reasons for a app to segfault, filesystem permissions, malformed > metadata(XML), etc. > There'll definately be some clue towards the end of the strace >produced > output, just before it segfaults. > Just like strace there's also a ltrace, sorry don't remember it's >use. > Helped? > -- > Vinay Pawar > http://nodegroup.com/vinay/ Honestly, it just confuses me more. I used strace to follow the execution of gnome-panel, gedit and gstones until they segfaulted. The out really does not tell me anything. I guess that's what happens when all your programming knowledge is about 12 years old. On another front...when will we see the long awaited update for Antomic? Will it include the new Xfree 4.3? And if I want to install 4.3rcX on anotmic now, is it better to download the pre-compiled binanries or should I get the source and compile it all myself? And yet another front...I've installed lpp to give me a neat graphic during boot-up instead of watching all the msgs go by...does anotmic have an official logo I could use...wouyld like to take a whack at creating a theme for lpp on antomic. -Pat -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |
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From: Vinay P. <zo...@gm...> - 2003-02-18 05:02:43
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On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 09:54:07PM -0500, Patrick Barnard wrote: > Reposting my original e-mail still hoping for an answer or some kind of help to fix this. > > From: Patrick Barnard <plbarnard@te...> > Problems with GTK+ 2.2.X and gnome ? > 2003-02-14 20:39 > > OK, this is an update to my previous posts. I downloaded the source for gnome (using the > same versions as what I already) and compiled them on my computer. After installing, I have > a few apps working, but most just segfault. These include gnome-panel, gedit, the gnome > games, and gnome-terminal. Each starts, segfaults and leaves this message in my > .xsessions-errors file: > > GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot create instance of abstract (non-instantiatable) type > `GtkWidget' > > Any idea what is causing this? I don't get the errors if I use a gnome fail-safe session. > Also, I set up a new user with all the defaults and it still gives me the same errors. > > in a word help!? > > -Pat > -- Hi Patrick, There's nothing particularly wrong with GLib warnings like that. A better way to debug apps that are sefaulting is to run the 'strace' program. Strace will produce detailed output of how the binary program is getting executed and store it in a file. There might be several reasons for a app to segfault, filesystem permissions, malformed metadata(XML), etc. There'll definately be some clue towards the end of the strace produced output, just before it segfaults. Just like strace there's also a ltrace, sorry don't remember it's use. Helped? -- Vinay Pawar http://nodegroup.com/vinay/ |
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From: Patrick B. <plb...@te...> - 2003-02-18 02:54:59
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Reposting my original e-mail still hoping for an answer or some kind of help to fix this. From: Patrick Barnard <plbarnard@te...> Problems with GTK+ 2.2.X and gnome 2003-02-14 20:39 OK, this is an update to my previous posts. I downloaded the source for gnome (using the same versions as what I already) and compiled them on my computer. After installing, I have a few apps working, but most just segfault. These include gnome-panel, gedit, the gnome games, and gnome-terminal. Each starts, segfaults and leaves this message in my .xsessions-errors file: GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot create instance of abstract (non-instantiatable) type `GtkWidget' Any idea what is causing this? I don't get the errors if I use a gnome fail-safe session. Also, I set up a new user with all the defaults and it still gives me the same errors. in a word help!? -Pat -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |
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From: Patrick B. <plb...@te...> - 2003-02-15 04:39:13
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OK, this is an update to my previous posts. I downloaded the source for gnome (using the same versions as what I already) and compiled them on my computer. After installing, I have a few apps working, but most just segfault. These include gnome-panel, gedit, the gnome games, and gnome-terminal. Each starts, segfaults and leaves this message in my .xsessions-errors file: GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot create instance of abstract (non-instantiatable) type `GtkWidget' Any idea what is causing this? I don't get the errors if I use a gnome fail-safe session. Also, I set up a new user with all the defaults and it still gives me the same errors. in a word help!? -Pat -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |
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From: Patrick B. <plb...@te...> - 2003-02-13 04:27:52
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>Hi, >I've not tried XDM, but I sure will. >Problems may not be at the gtk+ side, probably issues with X Window >System. >I'm eagerly waiting for XFree86 4.3.0. >And for package updates check: http://distrowatch.com/packages.php?1 >Unlike Freshmeat where the updates appear only when the software >maintainer >wishes, here the version list is maintained by Distrowatch.com >themselves. >And yes we have the latest version of findutils and fileutils. > >-- >Vinay Pawar >http://nodegroup.com/vinay/ I've been watching the Xree86 web site regularly, but have yet to see a new stable release, only updates to the current snapshot. I compiled and installed glib 2.2.1 and gtk+ 2.2.1 with some success. I can start the gui, but any gnome application (gnome-panel, gedit, gterminal, gnome-session manager) just seg-fault. I think if I download the gnome 2.0.2 source and recompile it against what I have, it should be functional again. I'll let you know what happens. -Pat -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup |
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From: Vinay P. <zo...@gm...> - 2003-02-12 20:02:02
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On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 11:58:42AM -0500, Patrick Barnard wrote: > Here's a quick question. Has anyone else had a problem logging into gnome through xdm? > > And a quick update. I've install gcc3.2.2 on my system now, but I keep gcc 2.9.5 as well. There are documented problems with compiling parts of gnome, and other apps as well, with gcc3.x, so at this point I cannnot advocate switching to a gcc3 only based scheme. I use gcc3 mostly, but fall back to gcc2 when I need to at times. > > Gtk released a minor update to version 2.2.1. I'm going to hurt myself again and try to install it. Hopefully it will work better than the failed attempt at gtk+2.2.0. > > While I think about it, I downloaded the latest findutil and fileprog packages when I noticed they were several years old. Does antomic 2.0 use the "latest" versions? Would downloading a source package from a recent distro cure the find problems? > > -Pat > -- Hi, I've not tried XDM, but I sure will. Problems may not be at the gtk+ side, probably issues with X Window System. I'm eagerly waiting for XFree86 4.3.0. And for package updates check: http://distrowatch.com/packages.php?1 Unlike Freshmeat where the updates appear only when the software maintainer wishes, here the version list is maintained by Distrowatch.com themselves. And yes we have the latest version of findutils and fileutils. -- Vinay Pawar http://nodegroup.com/vinay/ |
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