From: Jon A. <JonathanA@TicketNetwork.com> - 2006-03-26 02:14:35
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi all,<br> <br> One the biggest problems with Anthem is that none of its custom attributes (AutoCallBack, PreCallBackFunction, etc.) are stored between callbacks. This means that if you set these in your codebehind, you need to *keep* resetting them every time there is a callback. This sucks. I need this kind of flexibility because sometimes I want my controls to behave like ASP controls and use postbacks and sometimes I want them to use callbacks. But when I set them, I want the setting to persist between callbacks. ASP controls remember their settings (AutoPostBack, for example). For people like me who want to use the same codebase for old browsers that only support postbacks (and yes, IE 5 barfs on a lot of the code used for callbacks), this is a bad thing. How much work would this be to fix?<br> <br> Jon<br> <div class="moz-signature">-- <br> <font size="2"><font face="Arial">Jonathan Aseltine<br> Software Engineer<br> </font></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">TicketNetwork.com<br> </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">27 Terrace Drive<br> </span></font><st1:street w:st="on"><st1:address style="background-position: left bottom; background-image: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); background-repeat: repeat-x;" tabindex="0" w:st="on"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Vernon, CT</span></font></st1:address></st1:street><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> 06066<br> </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Ph: 860.870.3400 x278<br> </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Fax: 860.870.8744<br> </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Email: <a href="mailto:jonathana@TicketNetwork.com">JonathanA@TicketNetwork.com</a><br> <br> </span></font><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">TicketNetwork™<br> </span></font></b><em><i><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Think outside the box office.<br> </span></font></i></em><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><a href="http://www.TicketNetwork.com">www.TicketNetwork.com</a></font><br> <br> <font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font> </div> </body> </html> |
From: Manu Temmerman-U. <man...@gm...> - 2006-03-26 11:39:07
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Sounds ok... The only thing is that this means changing all controls. I'll give it a shot. Manu. On 3/26/06, Jon Aseltine <Jon...@ti...> wrote: > > Hi all, > > One the biggest problems with Anthem is that none of its custom attribute= s > (AutoCallBack, PreCallBackFunction, etc.) are stored between callbacks. T= his > means that if you set these in your codebehind, you need to *keep* resett= ing > them every time there is a callback. This sucks. I need this kind of > flexibility because sometimes I want my controls to behave like ASP contr= ols > and use postbacks and sometimes I want them to use callbacks. But when I = set > them, I want the setting to persist between callbacks. ASP controls remem= ber > their settings (AutoPostBack, for example). For people like me who want t= o > use the same codebase for old browsers that only support postbacks (and y= es, > IE 5 barfs on a lot of the code used for callbacks), this is a bad thing. > How much work would this be to fix? > > Jon > -- > Jonathan Aseltine > Software Engineer > TicketNetwork.com > 27 Terrace Drive > Vernon, CT 06066 > Ph: 860.870.3400 x278 > Fax: 860.870.8744 > Email: JonathanA@TicketNetwork.com <jonathana@TicketNetwork.com> > > *TicketNetwork=99 > **Think outside the box office. > *www.TicketNetwork.com > > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net emai= l > is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends > applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join = the > prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D110944&bid=3D241720&dat= =3D121642_______________________________________________ anthem-dot-net-use= rs mailing > list ant...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/anthem-dot-net-users > |
From: Manu Temmerman-U. <man...@gm...> - 2006-03-26 12:03:57
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Jon, I tried to send you an email, but this is what gmail gave me back... Technical details of permanent failure: PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 554 The IP Address of the sender ( 64.233.182.187) was found in a DNS blacklist database and was therefore refused. So I'm sending it to the mailinglist instead. Can you let me know if you ar= e ok with my proposal? Here is what I tried to send you: On second thought Jon... It's quite a big change. It means making changes i= n all anthem controls. Since you are the only one (until now) who needs to have those properties in viewstate, would it be to much to ask from me that you make the change and then send me a patch? And before you start... Pls download the latest snapshot to be sure we both have the same version. Would you mind doing it? If not, great! If yes, then you'll probably have t= o wait a while. Kind regards, Manu. On 3/26/06, Manu Temmerman-Uyttenbroeck < man...@gm...> wrote: > > Sounds ok... The only thing is that this means changing all controls. I'l= l > give it a shot. > > Manu. > > > > On 3/26/06, Jon Aseltine <Jon...@ti...> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > One the biggest problems with Anthem is that none of its custom > > attributes (AutoCallBack, PreCallBackFunction, etc.) are stored between > > callbacks. This means that if you set these in your codebehind, you nee= d to > > *keep* resetting them every time there is a callback. This sucks. I nee= d > > this kind of flexibility because sometimes I want my controls to behave= like > > ASP controls and use postbacks and sometimes I want them to use callbac= ks. > > But when I set them, I want the setting to persist between callbacks. A= SP > > controls remember their settings (AutoPostBack, for example). For peopl= e > > like me who want to use the same codebase for old browsers that only su= pport > > postbacks (and yes, IE 5 barfs on a lot of the code used for callbacks)= , > > this is a bad thing. How much work would this be to fix? > > > > Jon > > -- > > Jonathan Aseltine > > Software Engineer > > TicketNetwork.com > > 27 Terrace Drive > > Vernon, CT 06066 > > Ph: 860.870.3400 x278 > > Fax: 860.870.8744 > > Email: JonathanA@TicketNetwork.com <jonathana@TicketNetwork.com> > > > > *TicketNetwork=99 > > **Think outside the box office. > > * www.TicketNetwork.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Netema= il is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends > > applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and joi= n the > > prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://s= el.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D110944&bid=3D241720&dat=3D121642 > > _______________________________________________ anthem-dot-net-users > > mailing list ant...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/anthem-dot-net-users > > > > |
From: Jon A. <JonathanA@TicketNetwork.com> - 2006-03-26 23:40:11
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=windows-1252" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi,<br> <br> That's actually really funny. Way to go, Ability Mail Server! For now, I've put an exception in for Gmail. Turns out that only one gmail proxy is on a DNS Blacklist (these are automatically updated).<br> <br> Sure, I can make the changes, but probably not until next week sometime. If you could show me how to change just one, I can do all the others.<br> <br> Jon<br> <br> Manu Temmerman-Uyttenbroeck wrote: <blockquote cite="mid...@ma..." type="cite">Jon, I tried to send you an email, but this is what gmail gave me back...<br> <br> <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">Technical details of permanent failure:</span><br style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"> <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 554 The IP Address of the sender (</span><a style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://64.233.182.187/" target="_blank"> 64.233.182.187</a><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">) was found in a DNS blacklist database and was therefore refused.</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"> <br> So I'm sending it to the mailinglist instead. Can you let me know if you are ok with my proposal?<br> Here is what I tried to send you:<br> <br> <div style="direction: ltr;">On second thought Jon... It's quite a big change. It means making changes in all anthem controls. Since you are the only one (until now) who needs to have those properties in viewstate, would it be to much to ask from me that you make the change and then send me a patch?<br> And before you start... Pls download the latest snapshot to be sure we both have the same version.<br> Would you mind doing it? If not, great! If yes, then you'll probably have to wait a while.<br> <br> Kind regards,<br> </div> <div style="direction: ltr;"><span class="sg"> Manu.</span></div> <br> </blockquote> <br> <div class="moz-signature">-- <br> <font size="2"><font face="Arial">Jonathan Aseltine<br> Software Engineer<br> </font></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">TicketNetwork.com<br> </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">27 Terrace Drive<br> </span></font><st1:street w:st="on"><st1:address style="background-position: left bottom; background-image: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); background-repeat: repeat-x;" tabindex="0" w:st="on"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Vernon, CT</span></font></st1:address></st1:street><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> 06066<br> </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Ph: 860.870.3400 x278<br> </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Fax: 860.870.8744<br> </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Email: <a href="mailto:jonathana@TicketNetwork.com">JonathanA@TicketNetwork.com</a><br> <br> </span></font><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">TicketNetwork™<br> </span></font></b><em><i><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Think outside the box office.<br> </span></font></i></em><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><a href="http://www.TicketNetwork.com">www.TicketNetwork.com</a></font><br> <br> <font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font> </div> </body> </html> |
From: Andy M. <am...@st...> - 2006-03-27 01:34:14
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I posted a sample in sourceforge patches. Andy _____ From: ant...@li... [mailto:ant...@li...] On Behalf Of Jon Aseltine Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 3:40 PM To: Manu Temmerman-Uyttenbroeck Cc: ant...@li... Subject: Re: [Anthem.NET-users] big problem with Anthem .snip. Sure, I can make the changes, but probably not until next week sometime. If you could show me how to change just one, I can do all the others. Jon ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ anthem-dot-net-users mailing list ant...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/anthem-dot-net-users |
From: Manu Temmerman-U. <man...@gm...> - 2006-03-27 04:02:36
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Hmmm Jon, again I got the same msg. So again to the list... So Jon I can count on it that you will do it? That would be nice.... Andy I just had a look at the sample fix you posted in the patches. Could i= t be that it's better *not* to put the UpdateAfterCallBack into viewstate? If that property is in viestate, does it then mean that if once I put it to true somewhere in my code, that it will be true *forever*? That's not how it should be I think. UpdateAfterCallBack should be only valid for 1 callback cycle. After it, it should be false again. Correct? Manu. On 3/27/06, Manu Temmerman-Uyttenbroeck < man...@gm...> wrote: > > Thx Andy! > > Jon, hope you fixed the problem with your mail server :) > So I can count on it that you will do it, Jon? > > Manu. > > > On 3/27/06, Andy Miller <am...@st...> wrote: > > > > I posted a sample in sourceforge patches. > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > *From:* ant...@li... [mailto: > > ant...@li...] * On Behalf Of *Jon > > Aseltine > > *Sent:* Sunday, March 26, 2006 3:40 PM > > *To:* Manu Temmerman-Uyttenbroeck > > *Cc:* ant...@li... > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Anthem.NET-users] big problem with Anthem > > > > > > > > =85snip=85 > > > > > > Sure, I can make the changes, but probably not until next week sometime= . > > If you could show me how to change just one, I can do all the others. > > > > Jon > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Netema= il is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends > > applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and joi= n the > > prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://s= el.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D110944&bid=3D241720&dat=3D121642 > > _______________________________________________ anthem-dot-net-users > > mailing list ant...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/anthem-dot-net-users > > > > |
From: Andy M. <am...@st...> - 2006-03-27 07:07:31
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Good point. We *want* UpdateAfterCallBack to reset to false, unless AutoUpdateAfterCallBack is set. I was overzealous. That property should not be in ViewState. Andy Miller _____ From: ant...@li... [mailto:ant...@li...] On Behalf Of Manu Temmerman-Uyttenbroeck Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:03 PM To: Andy Miller; anthem user Subject: Re: [Anthem.NET-users] big problem with Anthem .other stuff. Andy I just had a look at the sample fix you posted in the patches. Could it be that it's better *not* to put the UpdateAfterCallBack into viewstate? If that property is in viestate, does it then mean that if once I put it to true somewhere in my code, that it will be true *forever*? That's not how it should be I think. UpdateAfterCallBack should be only valid for 1 callback cycle. After it, it should be false again. Correct? Manu. |
From: Jon A. <JonathanA@TicketNetwork.com> - 2006-03-27 07:17:38
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=windows-1252" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi,<br> <br> Sorry, my mail server seems to be a bit too draconian. I will try to fix it when I have time.<br> <br> Yes, I will do it. Probably not this week (but you never know). And yes, UpdateAfterCallBack should not be in the viewstate. I will also add anthem:Literal while I am at it.<br> <br> Jon<br> <br> <br> Manu Temmerman-Uyttenbroeck wrote: <blockquote cite="mid...@ma..." type="cite">Hmmm Jon, again I got the same msg. So again to the list...<br> <br> So Jon I can count on it that you will do it? That would be nice....<br> Andy I just had a look at the sample fix you posted in the patches. Could it be that it's better *not* to put the UpdateAfterCallBack into viewstate? If that property is in viestate, does it then mean that if once I put it to true somewhere in my code, that it will be true *forever*?<br> <br> That's not how it should be I think. UpdateAfterCallBack should be only valid for 1 callback cycle. After it, it should be false again.<br> Correct?<br> <br> Manu.<br> </blockquote> <br> <br> <div class="moz-signature">-- <br> <font size="2"><font face="Arial">Jonathan Aseltine<br> Software Engineer<br> </font></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">TicketNetwork.com<br> </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">27 Terrace Drive<br> </span></font><st1:street w:st="on"><st1:address style="background-position: left bottom; background-image: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); background-repeat: repeat-x;" tabindex="0" w:st="on"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Vernon, CT</span></font></st1:address></st1:street><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> 06066<br> </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Ph: 860.870.3400 x278<br> </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Fax: 860.870.8744<br> </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Email: <a href="mailto:jonathana@TicketNetwork.com">JonathanA@TicketNetwork.com</a><br> <br> </span></font><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">TicketNetwork™<br> </span></font></b><em><i><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Think outside the box office.<br> </span></font></i></em><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><a href="http://www.TicketNetwork.com">www.TicketNetwork.com</a></font><br> <br> <font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font> </div> </body> </html> |
From: Manu Temmerman-U. <man...@gm...> - 2006-03-27 07:18:53
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Alright! Great! On 3/27/06, Jon Aseltine <Jon...@ti...> wrote: > > Hi, > > Sorry, my mail server seems to be a bit too draconian. I will try to fix > it when I have time. > > Yes, I will do it. Probably not this week (but you never know). And yes, > UpdateAfterCallBack should not be in the viewstate. I will also add > anthem:Literal while I am at it. > > > Jon > > > Manu Temmerman-Uyttenbroeck wrote: > > Hmmm Jon, again I got the same msg. So again to the list... > > So Jon I can count on it that you will do it? That would be nice.... > Andy I just had a look at the sample fix you posted in the patches. Could > it be that it's better *not* to put the UpdateAfterCallBack into viewstat= e? > If that property is in viestate, does it then mean that if once I put it = to > true somewhere in my code, that it will be true *forever*? > > That's not how it should be I think. UpdateAfterCallBack should be only > valid for 1 callback cycle. After it, it should be false again. > Correct? > > Manu. > > > > -- > Jonathan Aseltine > Software Engineer > TicketNetwork.com > 27 Terrace Drive > Vernon, CT 06066 > Ph: 860.870.3400 x278 > Fax: 860.870.8744 > Email: JonathanA@TicketNetwork.com <jonathana@TicketNetwork.com> > > *TicketNetwork=99 > **Think outside the box office. > *www.TicketNetwork.com > > |