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From: Shlomi I. <sij...@gm...> - 2006-08-09 10:27:07
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Lately I checked the efficiency of the program, and noticed that with long animations it's quite slow. We need to figure out how can we improve the efficiency of this. It could be caused by the thumbnails list (probably). Additionaly, do you thinks it would be wise to add OpenGL support? for the animation, I mean. It will add to the dependecies quite a bit I guess, but it probably will be alot faster. -- http://sijp.no-ip.info please send me documents in open formats only, see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more info |
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From: Eyal <em...@gm...> - 2006-11-02 19:43:12
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On 8/9/06, Shlomi Israel <sij...@gm...> wrote: > > Lately I checked the efficiency of the program, and noticed that with > long animations it's quite slow. > > We need to figure out how can we improve the efficiency of this. It > could be caused by the thumbnails list (probably). > > Additionaly, do you thinks it would be wise to add OpenGL support? for > the animation, I mean. It will add to the dependecies quite a bit I > guess, but it probably will be alot faster. > > -- > http://sijp.no-ip.info > please send me documents in open formats only, see > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more info > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Animtutmaker-devel mailing list > Ani...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/animtutmaker-devel > I think it's a bad idea to use OpenGL for the animation, it's just too much for such a small and easy animation. Check out the new animation in the flash exporter, it might give you a direction. (Sorry for relplying for this mail, 2 months after i got, i just noticed it now, and, yes, i know i'm an idiot (: ) |
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From: Shlomi I. <sij...@gm...> - 2006-11-02 19:57:49
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How come too much? it can be an option, as much as I understand it is posible using Glitz, so we do not need to change too many things. Another goal i'm after is efficiency. I want it to be fast and usable even with weak computers (it is directed towards power users from the comunity, so anyone who knows what to do, should be able to do it). Still, this is an option of Cairo, that can be enabled (anyway Animtutmaker should be extemly modular :) and configurable). Additionally, I have spoken with Andrea Cimitan (The author of Murrine GTK+2 Engine), he had told me that the cairo folks are now focusing towards optimizations, and less towards new features, so speed improvements should be seen in the next few months. An Idiot? nah... perhaps timeless (me too :) literally I have no time for anything :( ). On 11/2/06, Eyal <em...@gm...> wrote: > > > > On 8/9/06, Shlomi Israel <sij...@gm...> wrote: > > > Lately I checked the efficiency of the program, and noticed that with > > long animations it's quite slow. > > > > We need to figure out how can we improve the efficiency of this. It > > could be caused by the thumbnails list (probably). > > > > Additionaly, do you thinks it would be wise to add OpenGL support? for > > the animation, I mean. It will add to the dependecies quite a bit I > > guess, but it probably will be alot faster. > > > > -- > > http://sijp.no-ip.info > > please send me documents in open formats only, see > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more info > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > > security? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > easier > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > > Geronimo > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Animtutmaker-devel mailing list > > Ani...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/animtutmaker-devel > > > I think it's a bad idea to use OpenGL for the animation, it's just too > much for such a small and easy animation. > Check out the new animation in the flash exporter, it might give you a > direction. > > (Sorry for relplying for this mail, 2 months after i got, i just noticed > it now, and, yes, i know i'm an idiot (: ) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > Animtutmaker-devel mailing list > Ani...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/animtutmaker-devel > > > -- http://sijp.no-ip.info please send me documents in open formats only, see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more info |
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From: Eyal <em...@gm...> - 2006-11-03 18:59:50
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On 11/2/06, Shlomi Israel <sij...@gm...> wrote: > > How come too much? > > it can be an option, as much as I understand it is posible using Glitz, so > we do not need to change too many things. > Another goal i'm after is efficiency. I want it to be fast and usable even > with weak computers (it is directed towards power users from the comunity, > so anyone who knows what to do, should be able to do it). > > Still, this is an option of Cairo, that can be enabled (anyway > Animtutmaker should be extemly modular :) and configurable). > > Additionally, I have spoken with Andrea Cimitan (The author of Murrine > GTK+2 Engine), he had told me that the cairo folks are now focusing towards > optimizations, and less towards new features, so speed improvements should > be seen in the next few months. > > An Idiot? nah... perhaps timeless (me too :) literally I have no time for > anything :( ). > > On 11/2/06, Eyal < em...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 8/9/06, Shlomi Israel <sij...@gm... > wrote: > > > > > Lately I checked the efficiency of the program, and noticed that with > > > long animations it's quite slow. > > > > > > We need to figure out how can we improve the efficiency of this. It > > > could be caused by the thumbnails list (probably). > > > > > > Additionaly, do you thinks it would be wise to add OpenGL support? for > > > the animation, I mean. It will add to the dependecies quite a bit I > > > guess, but it probably will be alot faster. > > > > > > -- > > > http://sijp.no-ip.info > > > please send me documents in open formats only, see > > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more info > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > > > security? > > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > > easier > > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > > > Geronimo > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Animtutmaker-devel mailing list > > > Ani...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/animtutmaker-devel > > > > > I think it's a bad idea to use OpenGL for the animation, it's just too > > much for such a small and easy animation. > > Check out the new animation in the flash exporter, it might give you a > > direction. > > > > (Sorry for relplying for this mail, 2 months after i got, i just noticed > > it now, and, yes, i know i'm an idiot (: ) > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > > security? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > easier > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > > Geronimo > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Animtutmaker-devel mailing list > > Ani...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/animtutmaker-devel > > > > > > > > > -- > http://sijp.no-ip.info > please send me documents in open formats only, see > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more info > As much as I know OpenGL is aimed for 3D, but we can give it a try. |
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From: Eyal <em...@gm...> - 2006-11-03 19:00:13
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Whatever, you know that i don't know what i'm talking about (: . But I still think OpenGL is too much, for this kind of animation, all your trying to do is to move a cursor image form (a,b) to (x,y) in time, it shouldn't be that hard, or a thing that waste alot of resources, and make the computer run slow, even on weak computers. But, if Glitz or whatever would make it run faster or smoother, so i think it's a good idea. On 11/3/06, Shlomi Israel < sij...@gm...> wrote: > > isn't 2D a subset of 3D ? :) > > check out Beryl and Compiz, they show plenty of 2D effects (wobble?), and > it's really fast. > the seperation between 2D and 3D in computer graphics is unnatural. > > On 11/3/06, Eyal <em...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 11/2/06, Shlomi Israel < sij...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > How come too much? > > > > > > it can be an option, as much as I understand it is posible using > > > Glitz, so we do not need to change too many things. > > > Another goal i'm after is efficiency. I want it to be fast and usable > > > even with weak computers (it is directed towards power users from the > > > comunity, so anyone who knows what to do, should be able to do it). > > > > > > Still, this is an option of Cairo, that can be enabled (anyway > > > Animtutmaker should be extemly modular :) and configurable). > > > > > > Additionally, I have spoken with Andrea Cimitan (The author of Murrine > > > GTK+2 Engine), he had told me that the cairo folks are now focusing towards > > > optimizations, and less towards new features, so speed improvements should > > > be seen in the next few months. > > > > > > An Idiot? nah... perhaps timeless (me too :) literally I have no time > > > for anything :( ). > > > > > > On 11/2/06, Eyal < em...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/9/06, Shlomi Israel <sij...@gm... > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lately I checked the efficiency of the program, and noticed that > > > > > with > > > > > long animations it's quite slow. > > > > > > > > > > We need to figure out how can we improve the efficiency of this. > > > > > It > > > > > could be caused by the thumbnails list (probably). > > > > > > > > > > Additionaly, do you thinks it would be wise to add OpenGL support? > > > > > for > > > > > the animation, I mean. It will add to the dependecies quite a bit > > > > > I > > > > > guess, but it probably will be alot faster. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > http://sijp.no-ip.info > > > > > please send me documents in open formats only, see > > > > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more > > > > > info > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > > > > > security? > > > > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your > > > > > job easier > > > > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > > > > > Geronimo > > > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Animtutmaker-devel mailing list > > > > > Ani...@li... > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/animtutmaker-devel > > > > > > > > > I think it's a bad idea to use OpenGL for the animation, it's just > > > > too much for such a small and easy animation. > > > > Check out the new animation in the flash exporter, it might give you > > > > a direction. > > > > > > > > (Sorry for relplying for this mail, 2 months after i got, i just > > > > noticed it now, and, yes, i know i'm an idiot (: ) > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > > > > security? > > > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your > > > > job easier > > > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > > > > Geronimo > > > > > > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Animtutmaker-devel mailing list > > > > Ani...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/animtutmaker-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://sijp.no-ip.info > > > please send me documents in open formats only, see > > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more info > > > > > As much as I know OpenGL is aimed for 3D, but we can give it a try. > > > > > > -- > http://sijp.no-ip.info > please send me documents in open formats only, see > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more info > |
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