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Re: [Amforth-devel] amforth - how to make him case insensitive
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From: pito <pi...@vo...> - 2010-08-10 01:33:04
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Andy, yes, you are right - there is a lot other things to do with amforth development. Of course I am not pushing you or the broad amforth community into any action regarding amforth, it is just a normal discusion.. I am not biased with any forth - as my forth skills are minimal, so my perception what would be nice to have is just a point of view of Mr. XY. I do understand you like it as it is, however I do understand you might be happy to have more than ~few users of it in the future. So as a normal user (who has other options as well) when I take the amforth (or any other forth), firstly I flash the stuff into the chip and then I start tackling the promt, the first thing one does is he/she starts to google and upload ready words into it (examples, libraries, tests, benchmarks, etc.) which are from 99.978% a happy mixture of lowercase and uppercase words. So based on your recommendation one has to start to write his own filters, conversion tools, analysers, transcoders.. with help of VB or python, at best under linux (to fit the amforth lowercase ideology), BTW with the similar issues like Matthias is indicating to me: - what to do with ." HeLLo woRlD" (of course nothing, this shall not be transformed to xxx_case, it is obvious, we talk words only)? My point is the amforth (or pForth, PFForth, FlashForth,....) will not be considered (by 99% of people) from a very moment as the tool for programming a microcontroller today, but as a nice little gadget for playing, learning, evaluating, thinking about forth and related concepts as a representative of stack based machines. Therefore for me, as a guy who was also quite technical long time ago, but now much more customer centric, it means I shall offer (when not performing a l'art pour l'art exercise only) something one may practically use (in the way I described above) from scratch - and to simply google, upload and run a SIEVE WRITTEN IN UPPERCASE ... as normally nobody is able to write (I mean to program) the SIEVE in amforth even in lowercase just to test weather the amforth even works.. This is just my point guys, your mileage may vary... P. ----- PŮVODNÍ ZPRÁVA ----- Od: an...@ki... Komu: amf...@li... Předmět: Re: [Amforth-devel] amforth - how to make him case Datum: 9.8.2010 - 23:35:43 > You won't hear me argue against this view point > because I like it too. > > For the very good technical reasons already > outlined. > > I guess ultimately if the case sensitivity is too > much to live with, > there is always the option of taking a fork and > maintaining it yourself. > Such is the Open Nature of Open Source. > > Alternatively there are many text preprocessing > tools (Unix/Linux) that > will pre-process text into what ever case you > want. Before squirting it > at the Amforth laden micro-controller. > > Case sensitivity is good, leave it be, move on, > their is so much more > that is important to do, this argument is trivial > and unworthy of such > capable individuals. > > Sorry if this posting is offensive, enough > already, vote with your feet. > > > > On 09/08/10 19:18, Matthias Trute wrote: > > Üito, > > > >> The simplest solutiom might be to translate all > >> uppercase letters > >> >> (A-Z) into lowercase when input or exercised or > >> compiled. > >> > > > And what do I do with strings like ." hello > > world " ? > > > Turn it into HELLO WORLD? No way. > > > > and again: _I_ like the case sensitive feature > > very much. > > > > > Matthias > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > This SF.net email is sponsored by > > > > > > Make an app they can't live without > > Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev > > _______________________________________________ > > Amforth-devel mailing list > > Amf...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------This > SF.net email is sponsored by > > > Make an app they can't live without > Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge > http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Amforth-devel mailing list > Amf...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel |
