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[Amforth] Coolterm as terminal

[Jan K. <jan...@ic...>]

Hello,

I use Coolterm as terminal. Is it posible to use “include" to load several screens with one command?

This as example like this

#include install/2-fetch.frt
#include install/2-store.frt
#include install/quotations.frt
#include install/search-name.frt
#include install/find-name.frt
#include install/defined.frt
#include install/dot-s.frt
#include install/dumper.frt
#include install/dump.frt
#include install/question.frt
#include install/builds.frt
#include install/bitnames.frt

Cheers,

Jan

[Amforth] Coolterm as terminal

[Jan K. <jan...@ic...>]

Tristan,

I have tried to get it working without any result, I use macOS High Sierra.
Do you have tips to get it running?
Do you use Python 2 or 3

Cheers,

Jan

Re: [Amforth] Coolterm as terminal

[Tristan W. <ho...@tj...>]

Hi Jan,

I am not sure how far you got with amforth-shell.py so I have started
at the beginning and worked forward in steps.

Step 1

Open an OS X terminal, change to your-amforth-dir/tools directory(folder)
and type

./amforth-shell.py --help

If this executes you should get a screen full of options with their
descriptions. 

Step 2

Find your uno (or other board's) serial port name. Type

ls -lt /dev/*usb*

Here is my listing (I have two usb-serial devices plugged in so four
entries)

crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   17,  24 25 Oct 07:39 /dev/tty.usbmodem1411
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   17,  25 25 Oct 07:37 /dev/cu.usbmodem1411
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   17,  23 25 Oct 07:33 /dev/cu.usbserial-A906R1JQ
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   17,  22 25 Oct 07:33 /dev/tty.usbserial-A906R1JQ

I will use /dev/tty.usbmodem1411 which is from my uno[1]

Step 3

In the OS X terminal type (replacing /dev/tty.usbmodem1411 with your
serial device name)   

./amforth-shell.py -p /dev/tty.usbmodem1411 -s 38400 -i

This should leave you in the interactive mode of the amforth-shell.py
allowing you interact with AmForth[2] e.g. typing

2 3 + .

Should result in 5

To exit type (on my mac # is alt 3)

#exit

If you get to here, then you have a working amforth-shell.py that can
communicate with the uno. Let me know if that is the case.

What remains is to get amforth-shell.py to search for and include
files. That is Step 4 (which is to follow, if step 3 completed
successfully).

Regards,
Tristan

[1] For my uno, if I plug it into a different USB port I will get a
different device name - though the port to name mapping is the same.

[2] Assuming you have AmForth on the uno.


On 24Oct18 19:21, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote:
> Tristan,
> 
> I have tried to get it working without any result, I use macOS High Sierra.
> Do you have tips to get it running?
> Do you use Python 2 or 3
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jan
> 
> 
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[Amforth] Coolterm as terminal

[Jan K. <jan...@ic...>]

Thanks Tristan,

When I run it get the error “no module named serial”
Check my versions of Python and when I type "import serial” there is no 
problem. So I don’t know how to fix this!

Cheers,

Jan

Re: [Amforth] Coolterm as terminal

[Tristan W. <ho...@tj...>]

Jan,

Perhaps amforth-shell.py is trying to execute one of the versions of
python you have on your machine that does not have the required serial
module installed or configured. The following might shed some light on
the problem but comes with no warranty. Proceed at your own risk.

In an OS X terminal, for your versions of python that import serial
without error type

your-version-of-python --version

Choose one that is version 2.7.X (where X is some number)

For that one type

which your-version-of-python 

Make a note of the outputted full path

Then from the your-amforth-install/tools directory type

cp amforth-shell.py backup-amforth-shell.py

head -1 amforth-shell.py 

Compare the output with the full path of the python program you noted
above. If different, using an editor, replace the full path of the
python executable in amforth-shell.py with the one you noted above.

Regards,
Tristan


On 25Oct18 12:00, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote:
> Thanks Tristan,
> 
> When I run it get the error “no module named serial”
> Check my versions of Python and when I type "import serial” there is no 
> problem. So I don’t know how to fix this!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jan
> 
> 
> 
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[Amforth] Coolterm as terminal

[Jan K. <jan...@ic...>]

Tristan,

Thanks for the help this day. It is “working” but wen I type in a command a get an error back from
amForth. See my output.
Anny idee what is going wrong?

Cheers

Jan

Last login: Thu Oct 25 18:54:18 on ttys000
MacBook-Pro-van-Jan-6:~ jankromhout$ cd /Users/jankromhout/Documents/amforth-6.7/tools 
MacBook-Pro-van-Jan-6:tools jankromhout$ ./amforth-shell.py -p /dev/tty.usbmodem1411 -s 38400 -i
|I=appl_defs: 0 loaded
|I=Entering amforth interactive interpreter
|I=getting MCU name..
|I=successfully loaded register definitions for atmega328p
|I=getting filenames on the host
|I=  Reading /Users/jankromhout/Documents/amforth-6.7/avr8/devices/atmega328p
|I=  Reading /Users/jankromhout/Documents/amforth-6.7/avr8/lib
|I=  Reading .
|I=getting filenames from the controller
(ATmega328P)> 
(ATmega328P)> 10
 ?? -13 8 
(ATmega328P)> 10 20 + .
 ?? -13 6 
(ATmega328P)> 

Re: [Amforth] Coolterm as terminal

[Tristan W. <ho...@tj...>]

Jan,

I would try adding --rtscts to the ./amforth-shell.py command line. If
that does not help, then I would use --debug-serial to have a look at
what is happening at a lower level.

What model of Arduino are you trying to connect with?

Regards,
Tristan 

On 25Oct18 19:02, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel wrote:
> Tristan,
> 
> Thanks for the help this day. It is “working” but wen I type in a command a get an error back from
> amForth. See my output.
> Anny idee what is going wrong?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Jan
> 
> Last login: Thu Oct 25 18:54:18 on ttys000
> MacBook-Pro-van-Jan-6:~ jankromhout$ cd /Users/jankromhout/Documents/amforth-6.7/tools 
> MacBook-Pro-van-Jan-6:tools jankromhout$ ./amforth-shell.py -p /dev/tty.usbmodem1411 -s 38400 -i
> |I=appl_defs: 0 loaded
> |I=Entering amforth interactive interpreter
> |I=getting MCU name..
> |I=successfully loaded register definitions for atmega328p
> |I=getting filenames on the host
> |I=  Reading /Users/jankromhout/Documents/amforth-6.7/avr8/devices/atmega328p
> |I=  Reading /Users/jankromhout/Documents/amforth-6.7/avr8/lib
> |I=  Reading .
> |I=getting filenames from the controller
> (ATmega328P)> 
> (ATmega328P)> 10
>  ?? -13 8 
> (ATmega328P)> 10 20 + .
>  ?? -13 6 
> (ATmega328P)> 
> 
> 
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[Amforth] Coolterm as terminal

[Jan K. <jan...@ic...>]

Tristan,

I’m using an original Arduino-Uno

The next thing is to figure out how to include some of the .frt files. Docu is hard to understand.

It is working now with
	MacBook-Pro-van-Jan-6:tools jankromhout$ ./amforth-shell.py -p /dev/tty.usbmodem1421 -s 38400 -i —rtscts

I greatly appreciated your help

Cheers

Jan

Re: [Amforth] Coolterm as terminal

[Peter C. H. <Pet...@un...>]

Jan,

With CoolTerm it is not possible to use the “include” mechanism.

However, there is a terminal program (shell) specifically written in Python for use with FlashForth (flashforth.com). This most likely also works with AmForth and most likely can handle “include”.  I once tried but could not get this shell to work on my Mac in a hurry and so did not pursue it further and continued using CoolTerm.  If you succeed, I would be happy to hear from you.

Besides the Forth specific shell for FlashForth I have also seen one or two similar alternatives.

Peter



> On 24 Oct 2018, at 11:48, Jan Kromhout via Amforth-devel <amf...@li...> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I use Coolterm as terminal. Is it posible to use “include" to load several screens with one command?
> 
> This as example like this
> 
> #include install/2-fetch.frt
> #include install/2-store.frt
> #include install/quotations.frt
> #include install/search-name.frt
> #include install/find-name.frt
> #include install/defined.frt
> #include install/dot-s.frt
> #include install/dumper.frt
> #include install/dump.frt
> #include install/question.frt
> #include install/builds.frt
> #include install/bitnames.frt
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Amforth] Coolterm as terminal

[Martin B. <mar...@t-...>]

Hi Jan!

I recommend e4thcom written by Manfred Mahlow https://wiki.forth-ev.de/
doku.php/projects:e4thcom

Think it's worth to have a look at (if you'r on your way with Linux).

Regards Martin




Am Mittwoch, 24. Oktober 2018, 11:48:07 CEST schrieb Jan Kromhout via 
Amforth-devel:
> Hello,
> 
> I use Coolterm as terminal. Is it posible to use “include" to load several
> screens with one command?
> 
> This as example like this
> 
> #include install/2-fetch.frt
> #include install/2-store.frt
> #include install/quotations.frt
> #include install/search-name.frt
> #include install/find-name.frt
> #include install/defined.frt
> #include install/dot-s.frt
> #include install/dumper.frt
> #include install/dump.frt
> #include install/question.frt
> #include install/builds.frt
> #include install/bitnames.frt
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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Re: [Amforth] Coolterm as terminal

[Tristan W. <ho...@tj...>]

Hi Jan,

On OS X I use amforth-shell.py which is in the tools directory of the
AmForth distribution. More info below  

http://amforth.sourceforge.net/TG/recipes/Upload.html

Regards,
Tristan

On 24Oct18 16:58, Martin Bitter wrote:
> Hi Jan!
> 
> I recommend e4thcom written by Manfred Mahlow https://wiki.forth-ev.de/
> doku.php/projects:e4thcom
> 
> Think it's worth to have a look at (if you'r on your way with Linux).
> 
> Regards Martin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am Mittwoch, 24. Oktober 2018, 11:48:07 CEST schrieb Jan Kromhout via 
> Amforth-devel:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I use Coolterm as terminal. Is it posible to use “include" to load several
> > screens with one command?
> > 
> > This as example like this
> > 
> > #include install/2-fetch.frt
> > #include install/2-store.frt
> > #include install/quotations.frt
> > #include install/search-name.frt
> > #include install/find-name.frt
> > #include install/defined.frt
> > #include install/dot-s.frt
> > #include install/dumper.frt
> > #include install/dump.frt
> > #include install/question.frt
> > #include install/builds.frt
> > #include install/bitnames.frt
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Jan
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Amf...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amforth-devel
> 
> 
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