For what little it is worth, I have long felt that many of the default
menu settings are tailored for very small screens, the LaTeX menu being a
good example, but certainly not the only one. I think that it is great
that it is possible to configure menus to be compact, if say working on a
laptop, but I am not sure that is it is all that desirable if working on a
desktop machine which, these days, is likely to have much more extensive
real estate available. The problem, as seen here, is that you only ever
discover these hidden possibilities if you inadvertently have the correct
meta-key pressed when the menu is open, a low probability event. This
leads to unnecessary frustration. If it were ever up for discussion then
I would support the default configuration being for all menus to be
expanded (while retaining the option of making them compact if desired).
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There is indeed a preference to disable the dynamic menus and have all the menu items displayed simultanelously. It really makes some menus quite big and navigation more complicated. My feeling is that the menus are already big enough in their dynamic state but I'd be glad to hear other opinions.
Anyway, the preference is Use Dynamic Menus in the Menus panel of Alpha ↣ Preferences ↣ Global Preferences.
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My opinion is that it is one of the nice feature of Alpha and I should have found that Redo menu. Plus, it is the very standard shortcut for it.
I also feel that it is reasonable to expect a new user to learn 4-5 key features of a new app that are really useful and pervasive, and in order to use Alpha one have to learn, for instance, that (1) in order to insert the « tab » char you have to use alt-tab and that (2) « paired functions » are (i) linked to the same menu entry dynamically changed by alt and/or (ii) have the same shortcut modulo the alt modifier, and so on.
However, maybe undo/redo should be treated differently because:
- it is very standard in every app to have the two functions as the first two items in the Edit menu
- it is not the alt modifier, and there are few cases where the shift key change dynamically the menu (I found « Sort Lines »~« Sort paragraph » in « Text » menu and « Find Next »~« Find Previous » in « Search » Menu. « Find previous » is also a very basic functionality that one may feel frustrating not to found in the first place. Again this is the standard shortcut, I guess I found it because I did not search it... in the menu). Maybe dynamic menu could be limited to « alt » and the three shift-modified menu items treated as static menu?
Excellent suggestions. Quite convincing. I’ll implement them.
Cheers,
Bernard
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There is already:
shift-cmd-Z.For what little it is worth, I have long felt that many of the default
menu settings are tailored for very small screens, the LaTeX menu being a
good example, but certainly not the only one. I think that it is great
that it is possible to configure menus to be compact, if say working on a
laptop, but I am not sure that is it is all that desirable if working on a
desktop machine which, these days, is likely to have much more extensive
real estate available. The problem, as seen here, is that you only ever
discover these hidden possibilities if you inadvertently have the correct
meta-key pressed when the menu is open, a low probability event. This
leads to unnecessary frustration. If it were ever up for discussion then
I would support the default configuration being for all menus to be
expanded (while retaining the option of making them compact if desired).
Cheers, Chris.
On 9/05/2017 11:25 pm, "Sylvain Loiseau" sylvain.loiseau@univ-paris13.fr
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#133There is indeed a preference to disable the dynamic menus and have all the menu items displayed simultanelously. It really makes some menus quite big and navigation more complicated. My feeling is that the menus are already big enough in their dynamic state but I'd be glad to hear other opinions.
Anyway, the preference is Use Dynamic Menus in the Menus panel of Alpha ↣ Preferences ↣ Global Preferences.
Excellent suggestions. Quite convincing. I’ll implement them.
Cheers,
Bernard
This is fixed now.
Changes committed to the repository (rev. 1344).