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#70 Find Bar vs Find Dialog

9.0a11
closed
nobody
None
Bug
major
2017-01-03
2016-11-26
Dan
No

Since the Find Bar's behavior is the way many other apps work now, it might be helpful is cmd-F was bound to it instead of the dialog. Perhaps a preference to let us toggle the binding?

The Search > Find… dialog’s initial focus is the help icon, not the text input field. This means you have to hit tab or do some mousing before the dialog is useable. Initial focus should be on the “Search For” text input
field.

Now, using the Find Bar... searching on something like "• AlphaC" doesn't work incrementally; you have to hit return before the string is found. Then a subsequent search on "••••" fails - it finds and highlights "• AlphaC".
Close the bar, reopen it, type four bullets, and now the < and > buttons work but cmd-G does not.

Discussion

  • Bernard Desgraupes

    Concerning the preferred binding for Find Dialog vs. Find Bar, I think this is really a matter of test. Rather than introducing yet another preference, you may change the bindings yourself using the Alpha ↣ Global Setup ↣ Keyboard Shortcuts ↣ Menu Shortcuts command.

    The initial focus issue seems to be fixed. At least, I don't see it on El Capitan.

    Incremental searches from the Find Bar seem to work correctly now: I don't observe any issue regarding bullets.

     
  • Bernard Desgraupes

    • status: open --> fixed
     
  • Dan

    Dan - 2016-12-14

    In a11, the initial focus is still on the ? and not in the search field.

     
  • Bernard Desgraupes

    Weird ! Not for me. I do have the focus on the Search field. Could you have a look at your OS X System Preferences in the Keyboard panel, Shortcuts subpanel. Which radio button is selected at the bottom of this dialog ? The choice is between "Fields and Lists only" or "All Controls".

     
  • Dan

    Dan - 2016-12-14

    I'm set to "All Controls".

     
  • Bernard Desgraupes

    That's it. Can you select the other choice ?

     
  • Bernard Desgraupes

    In fact, I should set the focus programmatically, whatever the system preference. Will do.

     
    • John

      John - 2016-12-14

      For what it's worth, I'm not interested in dealing with the Find bar. I still prefer to use the Find dialog and the keyboard shortcuts for replacing and finding again. Therefore, I would not like Command-F to be permanently bound to the Find bar. However, I would support there being a preference for anything that anyone expresses an interest in.

      Best,
      John

      Since the Find Bar's behavior is the way many other apps work now, it might be helpful is cmd-F was bound to it instead of the dialog. Perhaps a preference to let us toggle the binding?

       
  • Bernard Desgraupes

    I have no intention of changing the ⌘F binding. For those who really want to tweak it, I indicated in the first comment of this ticket how this can be done (using the Alpha ↣ Global Setup ↣ Keyboard Shortcuts ↣ Menu Shortcuts command).

     
  • Bernard Desgraupes

    I have fixed the issue about setting the focus. It is now correctly set on the search field, no matter which System Preference is selected.
    Changes committed to the repository (rev. 1194 (sourceforge.net)).

     
  • Bernard Desgraupes

    • status: fixed --> closed
    • Version: 9.0a10 --> 9.0a11
     

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