From: jwq <jw...@us...> - 2018-11-24 22:42:59
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--- ** [tickets:#206] User Interface Changes Capriciously in Minor-Point-Update** **Status:** open **Created:** Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:42 PM UTC by jwq **Last Updated:** Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:42 PM UTC **Owner:** nobody **Attachments:** - [Alpha 9.0.1.png](https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/206/attachment/Alpha%209.0.1.png) (29.7 kB; image/png) - [Alpha 9.0.png](https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/206/attachment/Alpha%209.0.png) (28.2 kB; image/png) Alpha 9.0.1 has a new UI for mode selection, etc., per the attachments. The UI wasn't *broken* and this change adds *no* value for me as a user; it's not even post-hoc explained in the release notes. Rather, having the UI change capriciously in a minor-point update (9.0 → 9.0.1) is irksome. I appreciate the bug fixes - and all the hard work that is required for them. Please don't tarnish my appreciation with UI annoyances. Please. --- Sent from sourceforge.net because alp...@li... is subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/ To unsubscribe from further messages, a project admin can change settings at https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options. Or, if this is a mailing list, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list. |
From: Bernard D. <bde...@us...> - 2018-12-09 17:30:56
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Sorry for the inconvenience, but as a matter of fact the *Release Notes* contained the following item: *"The Info and Mode popups are now displayed in the control bar instead of the toolbar of the document windows."* This was not just a cosmetic change : it was meant to fix a *very bad* problem on Mojave (OS X latest version). The popups in the toolbar caused a systematic crash of the application. --- ** [tickets:#206] User Interface Changes Capriciously in Minor-Point-Update** **Status:** open **Created:** Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:42 PM UTC by jwq **Last Updated:** Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:42 PM UTC **Owner:** nobody **Attachments:** - [Alpha 9.0.1.png](https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/206/attachment/Alpha%209.0.1.png) (29.7 kB; image/png) - [Alpha 9.0.png](https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/206/attachment/Alpha%209.0.png) (28.2 kB; image/png) Alpha 9.0.1 has a new UI for mode selection, etc., per the attachments. The UI wasn't *broken* and this change adds *no* value for me as a user; it's not even post-hoc explained in the release notes. Rather, having the UI change capriciously in a minor-point update (9.0 → 9.0.1) is irksome. I appreciate the bug fixes - and all the hard work that is required for them. Please don't tarnish my appreciation with UI annoyances. Please. --- Sent from sourceforge.net because alp...@li... is subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/ To unsubscribe from further messages, a project admin can change settings at https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options. Or, if this is a mailing list, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list. |
From: Bernard D. <bde...@us...> - 2018-12-09 17:31:19
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- **status**: open --> closed --- ** [tickets:#206] User Interface Changes Capriciously in Minor-Point-Update** **Status:** closed **Created:** Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:42 PM UTC by jwq **Last Updated:** Sun Dec 09, 2018 05:30 PM UTC **Owner:** nobody **Attachments:** - [Alpha 9.0.1.png](https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/206/attachment/Alpha%209.0.1.png) (29.7 kB; image/png) - [Alpha 9.0.png](https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/206/attachment/Alpha%209.0.png) (28.2 kB; image/png) Alpha 9.0.1 has a new UI for mode selection, etc., per the attachments. The UI wasn't *broken* and this change adds *no* value for me as a user; it's not even post-hoc explained in the release notes. Rather, having the UI change capriciously in a minor-point update (9.0 → 9.0.1) is irksome. I appreciate the bug fixes - and all the hard work that is required for them. Please don't tarnish my appreciation with UI annoyances. Please. --- Sent from sourceforge.net because alp...@li... is subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/ To unsubscribe from further messages, a project admin can change settings at https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options. Or, if this is a mailing list, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list. |
From: jwq <jw...@us...> - 2019-01-08 21:58:59
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The Release Notes are euphemistic at best; the crash which *explains* the change appears to be entirely undocumented. The fundamental problem is that a fix to a bug - which I do want - has been conflated with non-cosmetic changes to the UI - which I don't want. The popup menus: * no longer look the same - they don't look like popups at all * are located on the opposite side of the window * no longer convey the state information they used to convey Hardly cosmetic: they are unrecognizable. This doesn't appear to be *the minimum possible disturbance to the GUI in fixing the bug.* I would really like the latter, please, because I very much appreciate the work you put into bug-fixes. --- ** [tickets:#206] User Interface Changes Capriciously in Minor-Point-Update** **Status:** closed **Created:** Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:42 PM UTC by jwq **Last Updated:** Sun Dec 09, 2018 05:31 PM UTC **Owner:** nobody **Attachments:** - [Alpha 9.0.1.png](https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/206/attachment/Alpha%209.0.1.png) (29.7 kB; image/png) - [Alpha 9.0.png](https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/206/attachment/Alpha%209.0.png) (28.2 kB; image/png) Alpha 9.0.1 has a new UI for mode selection, etc., per the attachments. The UI wasn't *broken* and this change adds *no* value for me as a user; it's not even post-hoc explained in the release notes. Rather, having the UI change capriciously in a minor-point update (9.0 → 9.0.1) is irksome. I appreciate the bug fixes - and all the hard work that is required for them. Please don't tarnish my appreciation with UI annoyances. Please. --- Sent from sourceforge.net because alp...@li... is subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/ To unsubscribe from further messages, a project admin can change settings at https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options. Or, if this is a mailing list, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list. |
From: Bernard D. <bde...@us...> - 2019-01-09 06:46:42
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I agree. Still in this case I think that the disturbance, though huge, was the minimum possible. The popups *had to* leave the toolbar. I'll advertise the changes more conspicuously next time this kind of situation happens (if ever). --- ** [tickets:#206] User Interface Changes Capriciously in Minor-Point-Update** **Status:** closed **Created:** Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:42 PM UTC by jwq **Last Updated:** Tue Jan 08, 2019 09:58 PM UTC **Owner:** nobody **Attachments:** - [Alpha 9.0.1.png](https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/206/attachment/Alpha%209.0.1.png) (29.7 kB; image/png) - [Alpha 9.0.png](https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/206/attachment/Alpha%209.0.png) (28.2 kB; image/png) Alpha 9.0.1 has a new UI for mode selection, etc., per the attachments. The UI wasn't *broken* and this change adds *no* value for me as a user; it's not even post-hoc explained in the release notes. Rather, having the UI change capriciously in a minor-point update (9.0 → 9.0.1) is irksome. I appreciate the bug fixes - and all the hard work that is required for them. Please don't tarnish my appreciation with UI annoyances. Please. --- Sent from sourceforge.net because alp...@li... is subscribed to https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/tickets/ To unsubscribe from further messages, a project admin can change settings at https://sourceforge.net/p/alphacocoa/admin/tickets/options. Or, if this is a mailing list, you can unsubscribe from the mailing list. |