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[Ali-devel] self closing (empty) tag?

[David S. <dsi...@ic...>]

First I'm a new user of ali/alo and I think it is great.  I'm so glad someone introduced them to me.

I have a question about self closing (empty) tags.  A customer is sending us this XML "<ExpirationDate/>" (no space before '/').  I cannot get ali to process this without an error (6, ALI_ERROR_TAG_INVALID).  It will, however, process "<ExpirationDate />" (space before '/') with no error.  Stepping through the ali code, at ali.c:701 (skip_element_tag) safe_c has a value of 47 ('/') and tag_length = 14.  This appears to be where the error code is set.

The XML spec. definition of an empty element is:
Tags for Empty Elements
[44]    EmptyElemTag       ::=          '<' Name<https://www.w3.org/TR/xml/#NT-Name> (S<https://www.w3.org/TR/xml/#NT-S> Attribute<https://www.w3.org/TR/xml/#NT-Attribute>)* S<https://www.w3.org/TR/xml/#NT-S>? '/>'

If I read this correctly, it means the space before '/' is optional.

Can someone clarify this for me?

I am using version 1.2 (5/1/2016).

Thank you,
David

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[Ali-devel] Re: Windows binary of ALI

[Roger F. <rog...@pa...>]

OK, I understand what you want now, and why.  But I still do not know 
how to resolve my concerns about confusion and maintenance.  Maybe they 
aren't really problems, but I think they are.  Comments would be great.

This zlib dll FAQ http://www.gzip.org/zlib/DLL_FAQ.txt seems really 
useful.  And the good part is that Ali has only a few (7) functions to 
export (http://ali.sourceforge.net/ali_doc.html#TOC).  If you find 
someone with a C compiler that willing to make it, I'm willing to try it 
by placing it on SourceForge and giving them credit.  Perhaps there are 
other people using other languages facing the same problem as you.

-Roger


Andrey Cherezov wrote:
> 
>> Are you hoping to call it's functionality from another language?  I 
>> see the project in your link is written in Forth.
> 
> 
> Right
> 
>>
>> 3. I myself do not understand the interactions between the dll and 
>> Forth.  Can C strings be passed both ways?  Can they be freed?  I do 
>> not like releasing something that I cannot test.
> 
> 
> Yes, Forth can call any C functions and understands C strings and 
> structures.
> 
>> I am not opposed to Ali as a dynamic library, and in fact I expect 
>> people to do so.  And if it is not easy then I'd like to add the 
>> changes to make it easy.  Do you have any ideas?  Do you have members 
>> in your project with access to a C compiler?  Do all your libraries 
>> have to be built as DLLs before use?
> 
> 
> This is preffered way - Forth libraryes can be built-in into Forth exe 
> module, but 'foreign' libs (zlib, pcre, openssl, rmspf, sockets, winapi, 
> etc) linked as DLLs.
> I can use MS XML DOM library with Forth, but it too 'fat' for our 
> purposes (XMLRPC), and I'm looking for lightweight library.
> 
> 

[Ali-devel] Re: Windows binary of ALI

[Roger F. <rog...@pa...>]

I'm not sure I fully understand.  Are you hoping to call it's 
functionality from another language?  I see the project in your link is 
written in Forth.

There are not any precompiled windows binaries of Ali.  Making them 
concerns me for a number of reasons:

1. Confusion.  People might think it's the preferred way to use Ali. 
People might think other OS are not supported, or not preferred, if they 
do not see matching precompiled libraries.

2. More maintenance work.  Some people will start to depend on 
precompiled libraries, and will need them updated.  I am not ready to 
add this task to each release for each OS.

3. I myself do not understand the interactions between the dll and 
Forth.  Can C strings be passed both ways?  Can they be freed?  I do not 
like releasing something that I cannot test.


I am not opposed to Ali as a dynamic library, and in fact I expect 
people to do so.  And if it is not easy then I'd like to add the changes 
to make it easy.  Do you have any ideas?  Do you have members in your 
project with access to a C compiler?  Do all your libraries have to be 
built as DLLs before use?


-Roger


Andrey Cherezov wrote:
> Dear Roger!
> 
> Are there any precompiled windows binaries (dll)
> of your ALI library? Where can I download it?
> I can't to compile it myself (not using C compilers at all).
> 
> Thank you,
> -- 
> Andrey Cherezov (spf@)
> http://spf.sourceforge.net/
> 
> 

[Ali-devel] ANN: Ali Version 0.4 Released!

[Roger F. <rog...@pa...>]

The next version of Ali, 0.4, has been released.  It adds UTF-8 support. 
      It does a better job now at reporting non XML documents.

Download it at http:/ali.sourceforge.net.


-Roger

[Ali-devel] Version 0.4 development started

[Roger F. <rog...@pa...>]

The plan for the next version of Ali is to add UTF-8 support, matching 
Alo.  I haven't heard of a need for UTF-16 too, although I expect this 
version to make that easier, and not harder.

This still leaves features like DTD and namespace support for latter 
versions.

If you have any changes or found something to fix in this version, 
mention it!


-Roger

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[Roger F. <rog...@pa...>]

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