Re: [Alephmodular-devel] Platform-independence structure (was: Developer Rant #1 :) )

[Michael A. <mdm...@ya...>]

FYI: At least in the open source world, the state of
the art in cross-platform UI would be wxWindows
(www.wxwindows.org).  Closed source (to Windows
developers, open to Linux) would probobly be QT.  This
is a topic I've spend a little time on.

Note: wxWindows "hijacks" main though IIRC you still
have a real function called "main".  wxWindows just
uses macros to intersept and have *its* main be called
before yours.  This allows the differences of main vs
WinMain to be transparent.  Most non-windows
developers probobly aren't aware that the function
called in a Windows app is not main but WinMain, so
any cross platform solution will *have* to hijack main
in some way or another.

Michael D. Adams
mdm...@ya...


--- "Woody Zenfell, III" <woo...@sb...>
wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 09:38  PM, Br'fin
> wrote:
> 
> > A1 has far more things "in parallel" than it
> should. I don't agree with 
> > you, Woody, on which things should be shared.
> 
> I hope some of your next messages illuminate what
> you have in mind, 
> then... I am beginning to suspect I just
> misunderstand what you're 
> thinking and that's why things don't seem to be
> making sense.  In any 
> event, I think I've made my points many times over,
> and if they're not 
> compelling for you, then you obviously have some
> reasons.  :)  But what 
> are they?
> 
> > But I agree that A1 proper doesn't share enough. I
> applaud you and 
> > whoever else managed to get SDL working with A1.
> The basic code only 
> > has some nods towards cross-platform issues.
> 
> I can't really take much (if any) credit for that
> stuff.  I tend to 
> deflect it to Christian Bauer, whom I gather did
> quite a bit, but even 
> then he might not have acted alone - I don't know.
> 
> > SDL may or may not be appropriate within AM based
> tools. Mostly it 
> > would depend on how nicely it can play with
> others.
> 
> I concede that picturing SDL in a traditional
> application environment 
> (like an editor) kind of gives me the willies -
> shades of like an MS-DOS 
> painting program or something.  <<shudder>>  :)  SDL
> might serve as a 
> "buffer provider" into which the software renderer
> draws while playing a 
> game, but something else fills that role (through
> the same higher-level 
> code interface from the renderer's viewpoint of
> course) in a traditional 
> app.
> 
> The traditional app strikes me as more likely to be
> platform-specific, 
> anyway (probably Cocoa, and if anyone asks why, then
> they probably 
> haven't worked in Cocoa ;) ).  Though there are
> cross-platform 
> general-purpose UI widget toolkits, I'm not sure
> I've encountered any 
> that really get the "look and feel" right
> (especially on a 
> detail-oriented platform like the Mac).  But I am by
> no means an 
> authority on cross-platform UI widget toolkits.  :)
> 
> Woody
> 
> 
> 
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