Re: [tbox-l] OpenSSL and OpenSSH availability

[David C. <cl...@au...>]

Alex,

I had tried to minimize that issue -- if you look at the download page
where you get the OpenSSL image from the Toolbox, you will see there is also
an OpenSSH section.  At the top of that section is a link that takes you
straight to the OpenSSH download for AIX.  So while it is not on the exact
same page, it is just a mouse click away.

Although it is built and administered by a separate person/team, most
importantly it is provided with different Terms and Conditions such that it
does not belong within the fence of the AIX Toolbox.  The separation of the
Toolbox packages from other products is intentional.


On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 01:08:14PM +0200, Alex Polyak wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> I appreciate your answer; however present situation is very cumbersome:
> 
> While open ssh depends on pre-installation of open ssl, the 2 packages
> must be downloaded from two different locations and installed using
> different methods.
> 
> Why it is impossible to distribute both tools in the framework of
> Toolbox, while continuing to provide support just for the ssh, if IBM
> chooses to do so?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Aleksander Polyak
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Clissold [mailto:cl...@au...]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:44 PM
> To: Alex Polyak
> Cc: aix...@li...
> Subject: Re: [tbox-l] OpenSSL and OpenSSH availability
> 
> 
> 
> It evolved that way.
> 
> 
> 
> Originally, both openssh was also a part of the Toolbox and was in RPM
> 
> format also.  Both openssh and openssl were provided under the "as-is"
> terms
> 
> of the Toolbox.
> 
> For AIX 5.1 the AIX security team agreed to own and support OpenSSH.
> So,
> 
> it came out of the Toolbox and was repackaged and rebuilt in the native
> 
> supported AIX installation format, installp.
> 
> 
> 
> You can contact IBM service for openssh issues, but not openssl issues.
> 
> The openssl image is provided as freeware.  Of course, openssh depends
> on
> 
> openssl... which means if an openssh issue had an underlying issue
> within
> 
> openssl it would still have to be treated as if it were an openssh issue
> 
> itself for that specific case.
> 
> 
> 
> In other words, they are owned, packaged, and shipped separately and
> under
> 
> different terms.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 09:57:58AM +0200, Alex Polyak wrote:
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> >
> 
> > Does anyone have explanation why openssl is packaged as RPM while
> 
> > openssh that depends on its pre-installation is delivered by IBM as
> lpp
> 
> > packages?
> 
> >
> 
> > What are the latest versions of these tools, as supplied by IBM,  for
> 
> > AIX 5.2 and AIX 5.3?
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> > Aleksander Polyak
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> >
> 
> 
> 
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