aiptektablet-users

[Aiptektablet-users] Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know where to start

[Alexander E. <ale...@gm...>]

Hello,

I am using Ubuntu 8.04 and an Aiptek 12000U tablet. I'd really like to
get it going, but the information I find confuses me.

I have found the aiptektablet project on sourceforge:
http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/ . I also I took a look at the
sourceforge page itself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aiptektablet
. The only documentation I considered relevant was the WIP release,
which I didn't understand (I don't have profound knowledge of Linux,
e.g. I never edited the xorg.conf).
Also, I found a tutorial in the ubuntu documentation:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet . I was wondering about
that the tutorial does not use the aiptektablet sourceforge project at
all.

Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
work!"

Alexander

-- 
http://www.airlich.de

Re: [Aiptektablet-users] Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know where to start

[Jan K. <jj...@gm...>]

Am Samstag, 22. November 2008 schrieb Alexander Erlich:
>
> Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
> great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
> this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
> work!"
>
Not so easy. I'm currently the only developler left (I joined recently, maybe 
Waldeck Schutzer joins, too) and the whole aiptektablet project is kind of 
stalled.

The aiptek tablet driver is included in the Linux kernel and xorg, but both 
may have an outdated version of it, which no longer works (especially xorg). 
maybe someone at Ubuntu patched it?

Kind regards

	Jan
-- 
We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated.

Re: [Aiptektablet-users] Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know where to start

[Alexander E. <ale...@gm...>]

Hi,

I really don't know what to do about my Aiptek 12000U. I decided to go
on painting in Gimp, and I also am happy with the tablet, so the idea
of having to buy and get used to another tablet ONLY because I
couldn't get the Aiptek running on Linux is really annoying.

So I re-post my problem; I attatched my original message and Jan's
reply. Also, just to point that out: I tried the Aiptek 12000U both on
Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) and on 8.04 (Hardy, which I'm currently using),
and it had the same effect: It basically works, it's just not pressure
sensitive.

So I'm really looking forward to replies.


2008/11/22 Alexander Erlich <ale...@gm...>:
> Hello,
>
> I am using Ubuntu 8.04 and an Aiptek 12000U tablet. I'd really like to
> get it going, but the information I find confuses me.
>
> I have found the aiptektablet project on sourceforge:
> http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/ . I also I took a look at the
> sourceforge page itself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aiptektablet
> . The only documentation I considered relevant was the WIP release,
> which I didn't understand (I don't have profound knowledge of Linux,
> e.g. I never edited the xorg.conf).
> Also, I found a tutorial in the ubuntu documentation:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet . I was wondering about
> that the tutorial does not use the aiptektablet sourceforge project at
> all.
>
> Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
> great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
> this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
> work!"
>
> Alexander
>
> --
> http://www.airlich.de


2008/11/23 Jan Kandziora <jj...@gm...>:
> Am Samstag, 22. November 2008 schrieb Alexander Erlich:
>>
>> Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
>> great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
>> this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
>> work!"
>>
> Not so easy. I'm currently the only developler left (I joined recently, maybe
> Waldeck Schutzer joins, too) and the whole aiptektablet project is kind of
> stalled.
>
> The aiptek tablet driver is included in the Linux kernel and xorg, but both
> may have an outdated version of it, which no longer works (especially xorg).
> maybe someone at Ubuntu patched it?
>
> Kind regards
>
>        Jan
> --
> We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated.
>
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Re: [Aiptektablet-users] Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know where to start

[Waldeck S. <wa...@dm...>]

Hi Alexander,

Have you tried this on Gimp? This is what works quite well for me on
Intrepid: choose Edit->Preferences then open the Input Devivces tab.
Under Extended Input Devices, hit the Configure Extended Input devices
button. The Configure Input Devices dialog box should pop up. Now click
on the Device combo box. There you should find Aiptek, so click on it.
Finally, choose Screen on the mode combo and hit Save to close that
dialog box. Now you should be back to the Preferences dialog, so hit the
Save Input Devices Settings Now button, to keep you choices permanent
throughout sessions. Now you should be able to enjoy the pressure
sensitivity.

Hope this helps,
Waldeck Schutzer


On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 22:45 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I really don't know what to do about my Aiptek 12000U. I decided to go
> on painting in Gimp, and I also am happy with the tablet, so the idea
> of having to buy and get used to another tablet ONLY because I
> couldn't get the Aiptek running on Linux is really annoying.
> 
> So I re-post my problem; I attatched my original message and Jan's
> reply. Also, just to point that out: I tried the Aiptek 12000U both on
> Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) and on 8.04 (Hardy, which I'm currently using),
> and it had the same effect: It basically works, it's just not pressure
> sensitive.
> 
> So I'm really looking forward to replies.
> 
> 
> 2008/11/22 Alexander Erlich <ale...@gm...>:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am using Ubuntu 8.04 and an Aiptek 12000U tablet. I'd really like to
> > get it going, but the information I find confuses me.
> >
> > I have found the aiptektablet project on sourceforge:
> > http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/ . I also I took a look at the
> > sourceforge page itself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aiptektablet
> > . The only documentation I considered relevant was the WIP release,
> > which I didn't understand (I don't have profound knowledge of Linux,
> > e.g. I never edited the xorg.conf).
> > Also, I found a tutorial in the ubuntu documentation:
> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet . I was wondering about
> > that the tutorial does not use the aiptektablet sourceforge project at
> > all.
> >
> > Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
> > great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
> > this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
> > work!"
> >
> > Alexander
> >
> > --
> > http://www.airlich.de
> 
> 
> 2008/11/23 Jan Kandziora <jj...@gm...>:
> > Am Samstag, 22. November 2008 schrieb Alexander Erlich:
> >>
> >> Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
> >> great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
> >> this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
> >> work!"
> >>
> > Not so easy. I'm currently the only developler left (I joined recently, maybe
> > Waldeck Schutzer joins, too) and the whole aiptektablet project is kind of
> > stalled.
> >
> > The aiptek tablet driver is included in the Linux kernel and xorg, but both
> > may have an outdated version of it, which no longer works (especially xorg).
> > maybe someone at Ubuntu patched it?
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> >        Jan
> > --
> > We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated.
> >
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> > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes
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> > _______________________________________________
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> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
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Re: [Aiptektablet-users] Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know where to start

[Alexander E. <ale...@gm...>]

Hi Waldeck,

thank you very much for your reply! Unfortunately, in the Configure
Input Devices dialog box, I could not find such a thing as the Device
combo box (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/2.png). Maybe, that is because
my Aiptek is not recognized at all. I checked it in the Input
Controller tab and found that my tablet was neither among the
available nor among the active controlers. So I added a Linux Input
(http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/1.png), but it says there "Device not
available: Permission denied", and there was no effect.

I wonder whether you succeeded with the same model, Aiptek HyperPen
12000U? If so, I will try Intrepid again :-)

Thank you!

Alexander


2009/2/11 Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...>:
> Hi Alexander,
>
> Have you tried this on Gimp? This is what works quite well for me on
> Intrepid: choose Edit->Preferences then open the Input Devivces tab.
> Under Extended Input Devices, hit the Configure Extended Input devices
> button. The Configure Input Devices dialog box should pop up. Now click
> on the Device combo box. There you should find Aiptek, so click on it.
> Finally, choose Screen on the mode combo and hit Save to close that
> dialog box. Now you should be back to the Preferences dialog, so hit the
> Save Input Devices Settings Now button, to keep you choices permanent
> throughout sessions. Now you should be able to enjoy the pressure
> sensitivity.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Waldeck Schutzer
>
>
> On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 22:45 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I really don't know what to do about my Aiptek 12000U. I decided to go
>> on painting in Gimp, and I also am happy with the tablet, so the idea
>> of having to buy and get used to another tablet ONLY because I
>> couldn't get the Aiptek running on Linux is really annoying.
>>
>> So I re-post my problem; I attatched my original message and Jan's
>> reply. Also, just to point that out: I tried the Aiptek 12000U both on
>> Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) and on 8.04 (Hardy, which I'm currently using),
>> and it had the same effect: It basically works, it's just not pressure
>> sensitive.
>>
>> So I'm really looking forward to replies.
>>
>>
>> 2008/11/22 Alexander Erlich <ale...@gm...>:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I am using Ubuntu 8.04 and an Aiptek 12000U tablet. I'd really like to
>> > get it going, but the information I find confuses me.
>> >
>> > I have found the aiptektablet project on sourceforge:
>> > http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/ . I also I took a look at the
>> > sourceforge page itself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aiptektablet
>> > . The only documentation I considered relevant was the WIP release,
>> > which I didn't understand (I don't have profound knowledge of Linux,
>> > e.g. I never edited the xorg.conf).
>> > Also, I found a tutorial in the ubuntu documentation:
>> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet . I was wondering about
>> > that the tutorial does not use the aiptektablet sourceforge project at
>> > all.
>> >
>> > Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
>> > great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
>> > this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
>> > work!"
>> >
>> > Alexander
>> >
>> > --
>> > http://www.airlich.de
>>
>>
>> 2008/11/23 Jan Kandziora <jj...@gm...>:
>> > Am Samstag, 22. November 2008 schrieb Alexander Erlich:
>> >>
>> >> Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
>> >> great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
>> >> this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
>> >> work!"
>> >>
>> > Not so easy. I'm currently the only developler left (I joined recently, maybe
>> > Waldeck Schutzer joins, too) and the whole aiptektablet project is kind of
>> > stalled.
>> >
>> > The aiptek tablet driver is included in the Linux kernel and xorg, but both
>> > may have an outdated version of it, which no longer works (especially xorg).
>> > maybe someone at Ubuntu patched it?
>> >
>> > Kind regards
>> >
>> >        Jan
>> > --
>> > We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated.
>> >
>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge
>> > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes
>> > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world
>> > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Aiptektablet-users mailing list
>> > Aip...@li...
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>>
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>> resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
>> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
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>> Aip...@li...
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>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [Aiptektablet-users] Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know where to start

[Waldeck S. <wa...@dm...>]

Hi Alexander,

No problem! I'm glad to help! The combo-box I mentioned is the one
showing the one showing your Configured Mouse. If you click on it, you
should see Aiptek on the list. Check out my screen shot here:

http://www.dm.ufscar.br/profs/waldeck/the-gimp.jpg

In fact, the Aiptek tablet does not show on my list of Input Controllers
either, but it works as I told you before nevertheless.

My tablet is actually the Trust TB-4200, AFAIK a rebrand of the 12000U.
>From the driver point-of-view, yours and all other derivatives/rebrands
should work just fine.

The driver for these beasts consist of two parts: a kernel driver and a
xorg driver.

I made a few changes to the kernel driver to take advantage of the
increased resolution on the 12000U. Mine is running at about 3000DPI
instead of the default 500DPI. I also made a few changes in the xorg
driver to implement filtering, but I have not had great success. It
seems to me that the sampling rate on the hardware is not enough to
achieve the desired resolution. My pointer actually shivers a bit and I
was trying to smoothen it out.

Unfortunately I do not have the time right now to finish what I started.
As soon as I can do that I'll be discussing the changes with Jan to see
if they are sound enough to eventually make their way to the distros.

Hope this helps.

Waldeck Schutzer

On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 10:34 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
> Hi Waldeck,
> 
> thank you very much for your reply! Unfortunately, in the Configure
> Input Devices dialog box, I could not find such a thing as the Device
> combo box (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/2.png). Maybe, that is because
> my Aiptek is not recognized at all. I checked it in the Input
> Controller tab and found that my tablet was neither among the
> available nor among the active controlers. So I added a Linux Input
> (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/1.png), but it says there "Device not
> available: Permission denied", and there was no effect.
> 
> I wonder whether you succeeded with the same model, Aiptek HyperPen
> 12000U? If so, I will try Intrepid again :-)
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Alexander
> 
> 
> 2009/2/11 Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...>:
> > Hi Alexander,
> >
> > Have you tried this on Gimp? This is what works quite well for me on
> > Intrepid: choose Edit->Preferences then open the Input Devivces tab.
> > Under Extended Input Devices, hit the Configure Extended Input devices
> > button. The Configure Input Devices dialog box should pop up. Now click
> > on the Device combo box. There you should find Aiptek, so click on it.
> > Finally, choose Screen on the mode combo and hit Save to close that
> > dialog box. Now you should be back to the Preferences dialog, so hit the
> > Save Input Devices Settings Now button, to keep you choices permanent
> > throughout sessions. Now you should be able to enjoy the pressure
> > sensitivity.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Waldeck Schutzer
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 22:45 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I really don't know what to do about my Aiptek 12000U. I decided to go
> >> on painting in Gimp, and I also am happy with the tablet, so the idea
> >> of having to buy and get used to another tablet ONLY because I
> >> couldn't get the Aiptek running on Linux is really annoying.
> >>
> >> So I re-post my problem; I attatched my original message and Jan's
> >> reply. Also, just to point that out: I tried the Aiptek 12000U both on
> >> Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) and on 8.04 (Hardy, which I'm currently using),
> >> and it had the same effect: It basically works, it's just not pressure
> >> sensitive.
> >>
> >> So I'm really looking forward to replies.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2008/11/22 Alexander Erlich <ale...@gm...>:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I am using Ubuntu 8.04 and an Aiptek 12000U tablet. I'd really like to
> >> > get it going, but the information I find confuses me.
> >> >
> >> > I have found the aiptektablet project on sourceforge:
> >> > http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/ . I also I took a look at the
> >> > sourceforge page itself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aiptektablet
> >> > . The only documentation I considered relevant was the WIP release,
> >> > which I didn't understand (I don't have profound knowledge of Linux,
> >> > e.g. I never edited the xorg.conf).
> >> > Also, I found a tutorial in the ubuntu documentation:
> >> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet . I was wondering about
> >> > that the tutorial does not use the aiptektablet sourceforge project at
> >> > all.
> >> >
> >> > Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
> >> > great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
> >> > this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
> >> > work!"
> >> >
> >> > Alexander
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > http://www.airlich.de
> >>
> >>
> >> 2008/11/23 Jan Kandziora <jj...@gm...>:
> >> > Am Samstag, 22. November 2008 schrieb Alexander Erlich:
> >> >>
> >> >> Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
> >> >> great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
> >> >> this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
> >> >> work!"
> >> >>
> >> > Not so easy. I'm currently the only developler left (I joined recently, maybe
> >> > Waldeck Schutzer joins, too) and the whole aiptektablet project is kind of
> >> > stalled.
> >> >
> >> > The aiptek tablet driver is included in the Linux kernel and xorg, but both
> >> > may have an outdated version of it, which no longer works (especially xorg).
> >> > maybe someone at Ubuntu patched it?
> >> >
> >> > Kind regards
> >> >
> >> >        Jan
> >> > --
> >> > We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated.
> >> >
> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge
> >> > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes
> >> > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world
> >> > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Aiptektablet-users mailing list
> >> > Aip...@li...
> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
> >> software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
> >> build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
> >> resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
> >> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Aiptektablet-users mailing list
> >> Aip...@li...
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
> > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
> > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
> > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Aiptektablet-users mailing list
> > Aip...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
> build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
> resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 

Re: [Aiptektablet-users] Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know where to start

[Néstor <nes...@gm...>]

I am having the same problem with a Trust TB-3100, pressure does not
work at all with the Gimp. Can you use pressure on Gimp?? I think it
is a matter of permissions. I'm maybe taking a look into it soon. Any
comments?? I have already sent a bug to Ubuntu. It has prevented me
from using it for months!! (well, also my exams, and my work). It
would maybe be a good idea to change the default pemissions so to be
able to configure it properly from the beginning.

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...> wrote:
> Hi Alexander,
>
> No problem! I'm glad to help! The combo-box I mentioned is the one
> showing the one showing your Configured Mouse. If you click on it, you
> should see Aiptek on the list. Check out my screen shot here:
>
> http://www.dm.ufscar.br/profs/waldeck/the-gimp.jpg
>
> In fact, the Aiptek tablet does not show on my list of Input Controllers
> either, but it works as I told you before nevertheless.
>
> My tablet is actually the Trust TB-4200, AFAIK a rebrand of the 12000U.
> >From the driver point-of-view, yours and all other derivatives/rebrands
> should work just fine.
>
> The driver for these beasts consist of two parts: a kernel driver and a
> xorg driver.
>
> I made a few changes to the kernel driver to take advantage of the
> increased resolution on the 12000U. Mine is running at about 3000DPI
> instead of the default 500DPI. I also made a few changes in the xorg
> driver to implement filtering, but I have not had great success. It
> seems to me that the sampling rate on the hardware is not enough to
> achieve the desired resolution. My pointer actually shivers a bit and I
> was trying to smoothen it out.
>
> Unfortunately I do not have the time right now to finish what I started.
> As soon as I can do that I'll be discussing the changes with Jan to see
> if they are sound enough to eventually make their way to the distros.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Waldeck Schutzer
>
> On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 10:34 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
>> Hi Waldeck,
>>
>> thank you very much for your reply! Unfortunately, in the Configure
>> Input Devices dialog box, I could not find such a thing as the Device
>> combo box (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/2.png). Maybe, that is because
>> my Aiptek is not recognized at all. I checked it in the Input
>> Controller tab and found that my tablet was neither among the
>> available nor among the active controlers. So I added a Linux Input
>> (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/1.png), but it says there "Device not
>> available: Permission denied", and there was no effect.
>>
>> I wonder whether you succeeded with the same model, Aiptek HyperPen
>> 12000U? If so, I will try Intrepid again :-)
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Alexander
>>
>>
>> 2009/2/11 Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...>:
>> > Hi Alexander,
>> >
>> > Have you tried this on Gimp? This is what works quite well for me on
>> > Intrepid: choose Edit->Preferences then open the Input Devivces tab.
>> > Under Extended Input Devices, hit the Configure Extended Input devices
>> > button. The Configure Input Devices dialog box should pop up. Now click
>> > on the Device combo box. There you should find Aiptek, so click on it.
>> > Finally, choose Screen on the mode combo and hit Save to close that
>> > dialog box. Now you should be back to the Preferences dialog, so hit the
>> > Save Input Devices Settings Now button, to keep you choices permanent
>> > throughout sessions. Now you should be able to enjoy the pressure
>> > sensitivity.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps,
>> > Waldeck Schutzer
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 22:45 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I really don't know what to do about my Aiptek 12000U. I decided to go
>> >> on painting in Gimp, and I also am happy with the tablet, so the idea
>> >> of having to buy and get used to another tablet ONLY because I
>> >> couldn't get the Aiptek running on Linux is really annoying.
>> >>
>> >> So I re-post my problem; I attatched my original message and Jan's
>> >> reply. Also, just to point that out: I tried the Aiptek 12000U both on
>> >> Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) and on 8.04 (Hardy, which I'm currently using),
>> >> and it had the same effect: It basically works, it's just not pressure
>> >> sensitive.
>> >>
>> >> So I'm really looking forward to replies.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2008/11/22 Alexander Erlich <ale...@gm...>:
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > I am using Ubuntu 8.04 and an Aiptek 12000U tablet. I'd really like to
>> >> > get it going, but the information I find confuses me.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have found the aiptektablet project on sourceforge:
>> >> > http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/ . I also I took a look at the
>> >> > sourceforge page itself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aiptektablet
>> >> > . The only documentation I considered relevant was the WIP release,
>> >> > which I didn't understand (I don't have profound knowledge of Linux,
>> >> > e.g. I never edited the xorg.conf).
>> >> > Also, I found a tutorial in the ubuntu documentation:
>> >> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet . I was wondering about
>> >> > that the tutorial does not use the aiptektablet sourceforge project at
>> >> > all.
>> >> >
>> >> > Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
>> >> > great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
>> >> > this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
>> >> > work!"
>> >> >
>> >> > Alexander
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > http://www.airlich.de
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2008/11/23 Jan Kandziora <jj...@gm...>:
>> >> > Am Samstag, 22. November 2008 schrieb Alexander Erlich:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
>> >> >> great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
>> >> >> this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
>> >> >> work!"
>> >> >>
>> >> > Not so easy. I'm currently the only developler left (I joined recently, maybe
>> >> > Waldeck Schutzer joins, too) and the whole aiptektablet project is kind of
>> >> > stalled.
>> >> >
>> >> > The aiptek tablet driver is included in the Linux kernel and xorg, but both
>> >> > may have an outdated version of it, which no longer works (especially xorg).
>> >> > maybe someone at Ubuntu patched it?
>> >> >
>> >> > Kind regards
>> >> >
>> >> >        Jan
>> >> > --
>> >> > We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated.
>> >> >
>> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge
>> >> > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes
>> >> > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world
>> >> > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Aiptektablet-users mailing list
>> >> > Aip...@li...
>> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
>> >> software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
>> >> build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
>> >> resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
>> >> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Aiptektablet-users mailing list
>> >> Aip...@li...
>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
>> > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
>> > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
>> > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
>> > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Aiptektablet-users mailing list
>> > Aip...@li...
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
>> software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
>> build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
>> resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
>> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Aiptektablet-users mailing list
>> Aip...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
> software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
> build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
> resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
> _______________________________________________
> Aiptektablet-users mailing list
> Aip...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>



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nes...@gm...

Re: [Aiptektablet-users] Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know where to start

[Waldeck S. <wa...@dm...>]

Hi Néstor,

AFAIK this is not a matter of permissions. If you followed the guides,
you should get you tablet to work just fine, including pressure
sensitivity. This is just a matter of setting it up properly on Gimp, as
the screenshot I posted can confirm. I'm also quite happy with my tablet
working fine on InkScape as well.

Please let us know if you still have trouble using your tablet.

Waldeck

On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 17:45 +0100, Néstor wrote:
> I am having the same problem with a Trust TB-3100, pressure does not
> work at all with the Gimp. Can you use pressure on Gimp?? I think it
> is a matter of permissions. I'm maybe taking a look into it soon. Any
> comments?? I have already sent a bug to Ubuntu. It has prevented me
> from using it for months!! (well, also my exams, and my work). It
> would maybe be a good idea to change the default pemissions so to be
> able to configure it properly from the beginning.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...> wrote:
> > Hi Alexander,
> >
> > No problem! I'm glad to help! The combo-box I mentioned is the one
> > showing the one showing your Configured Mouse. If you click on it, you
> > should see Aiptek on the list. Check out my screen shot here:
> >
> > http://www.dm.ufscar.br/profs/waldeck/the-gimp.jpg
> >
> > In fact, the Aiptek tablet does not show on my list of Input Controllers
> > either, but it works as I told you before nevertheless.
> >
> > My tablet is actually the Trust TB-4200, AFAIK a rebrand of the 12000U.
> > >From the driver point-of-view, yours and all other derivatives/rebrands
> > should work just fine.
> >
> > The driver for these beasts consist of two parts: a kernel driver and a
> > xorg driver.
> >
> > I made a few changes to the kernel driver to take advantage of the
> > increased resolution on the 12000U. Mine is running at about 3000DPI
> > instead of the default 500DPI. I also made a few changes in the xorg
> > driver to implement filtering, but I have not had great success. It
> > seems to me that the sampling rate on the hardware is not enough to
> > achieve the desired resolution. My pointer actually shivers a bit and I
> > was trying to smoothen it out.
> >
> > Unfortunately I do not have the time right now to finish what I started.
> > As soon as I can do that I'll be discussing the changes with Jan to see
> > if they are sound enough to eventually make their way to the distros.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Waldeck Schutzer
> >
> > On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 10:34 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
> >> Hi Waldeck,
> >>
> >> thank you very much for your reply! Unfortunately, in the Configure
> >> Input Devices dialog box, I could not find such a thing as the Device
> >> combo box (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/2.png). Maybe, that is because
> >> my Aiptek is not recognized at all. I checked it in the Input
> >> Controller tab and found that my tablet was neither among the
> >> available nor among the active controlers. So I added a Linux Input
> >> (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/1.png), but it says there "Device not
> >> available: Permission denied", and there was no effect.
> >>
> >> I wonder whether you succeeded with the same model, Aiptek HyperPen
> >> 12000U? If so, I will try Intrepid again :-)
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >>
> >> Alexander
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/2/11 Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...>:
> >> > Hi Alexander,
> >> >
> >> > Have you tried this on Gimp? This is what works quite well for me on
> >> > Intrepid: choose Edit->Preferences then open the Input Devivces tab.
> >> > Under Extended Input Devices, hit the Configure Extended Input devices
> >> > button. The Configure Input Devices dialog box should pop up. Now click
> >> > on the Device combo box. There you should find Aiptek, so click on it.
> >> > Finally, choose Screen on the mode combo and hit Save to close that
> >> > dialog box. Now you should be back to the Preferences dialog, so hit the
> >> > Save Input Devices Settings Now button, to keep you choices permanent
> >> > throughout sessions. Now you should be able to enjoy the pressure
> >> > sensitivity.
> >> >
> >> > Hope this helps,
> >> > Waldeck Schutzer
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 22:45 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I really don't know what to do about my Aiptek 12000U. I decided to go
> >> >> on painting in Gimp, and I also am happy with the tablet, so the idea
> >> >> of having to buy and get used to another tablet ONLY because I
> >> >> couldn't get the Aiptek running on Linux is really annoying.
> >> >>
> >> >> So I re-post my problem; I attatched my original message and Jan's
> >> >> reply. Also, just to point that out: I tried the Aiptek 12000U both on
> >> >> Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) and on 8.04 (Hardy, which I'm currently using),
> >> >> and it had the same effect: It basically works, it's just not pressure
> >> >> sensitive.
> >> >>
> >> >> So I'm really looking forward to replies.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2008/11/22 Alexander Erlich <ale...@gm...>:
> >> >> > Hello,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am using Ubuntu 8.04 and an Aiptek 12000U tablet. I'd really like to
> >> >> > get it going, but the information I find confuses me.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have found the aiptektablet project on sourceforge:
> >> >> > http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/ . I also I took a look at the
> >> >> > sourceforge page itself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aiptektablet
> >> >> > . The only documentation I considered relevant was the WIP release,
> >> >> > which I didn't understand (I don't have profound knowledge of Linux,
> >> >> > e.g. I never edited the xorg.conf).
> >> >> > Also, I found a tutorial in the ubuntu documentation:
> >> >> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet . I was wondering about
> >> >> > that the tutorial does not use the aiptektablet sourceforge project at
> >> >> > all.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
> >> >> > great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
> >> >> > this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
> >> >> > work!"
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Alexander
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > http://www.airlich.de
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2008/11/23 Jan Kandziora <jj...@gm...>:
> >> >> > Am Samstag, 22. November 2008 schrieb Alexander Erlich:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
> >> >> >> great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
> >> >> >> this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
> >> >> >> work!"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > Not so easy. I'm currently the only developler left (I joined recently, maybe
> >> >> > Waldeck Schutzer joins, too) and the whole aiptektablet project is kind of
> >> >> > stalled.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The aiptek tablet driver is included in the Linux kernel and xorg, but both
> >> >> > may have an outdated version of it, which no longer works (especially xorg).
> >> >> > maybe someone at Ubuntu patched it?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Kind regards
> >> >> >
> >> >> >        Jan
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge
> >> >> > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes
> >> >> > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world
> >> >> > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > Aiptektablet-users mailing list
> >> >> > Aip...@li...
> >> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
> >> >> software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
> >> >> build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
> >> >> resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
> >> >> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Aiptektablet-users mailing list
> >> >> Aip...@li...
> >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
> >> > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
> >> > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
> >> > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
> >> > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Aiptektablet-users mailing list
> >> > Aip...@li...
> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
> >> software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
> >> build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
> >> resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
> >> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Aiptektablet-users mailing list
> >> Aip...@li...
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
> > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
> > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
> > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
> > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Aiptektablet-users mailing list
> > Aip...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
> >
> 
> 
> 

[Aiptektablet-users] Fwd: Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know where to start

[Néstor <nes...@gm...>]

Sorry. Now, I have everything in my FTP server, which is:

ftp://nestux.homelinux.org/aiptek/

All the formerly attached documents are now there.

It was too big for the mailing list!! I must apologize, I didn't
realize. That's why I forward this message.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Néstor <nes...@gm...>
Date: Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Aiptektablet-users] Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know
where to  start
To: aip...@li...


I'm using Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 on a 32bit machine, with it's default Xorg
server updated for security to the last stable version.

Nope, nothing. I would REALLY want to go and solve this issue :-)
Please, take a look at the attached information. I will surely help
you if I can, because I have this tablet since at least 6 months. And
I can not use it on Ubuntu!! If you need more information, or anything
else, tell me. The sooner I get this working the better :-)

I have got the following:

/dev/input/aiptektablet link to the device, with proper permissions.
Permissions are set by hand, until now.

"pen" device under Xorg.conf, Gimp 2.4.5 recognizes it flawlessly, You
can use it as a normal mouse, clicking on menus and so on. (BTW, is
this the right behaviour??)

# evtest /dev/input/aiptektablet > evtest
works also flawlessly, look at the compressed output attached. It even
recognizes the pressure

So what am I doing wrong?? Thank you.


On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...> wrote:
> Hi Néstor,
>
> AFAIK this is not a matter of permissions. If you followed the guides,
> you should get you tablet to work just fine, including pressure
> sensitivity. This is just a matter of setting it up properly on Gimp, as
> the screenshot I posted can confirm. I'm also quite happy with my tablet
> working fine on InkScape as well.
>
> Please let us know if you still have trouble using your tablet.
>
> Waldeck
>
> On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 17:45 +0100, Néstor wrote:
>> I am having the same problem with a Trust TB-3100, pressure does not
>> work at all with the Gimp. Can you use pressure on Gimp?? I think it
>> is a matter of permissions. I'm maybe taking a look into it soon. Any
>> comments?? I have already sent a bug to Ubuntu. It has prevented me
>> from using it for months!! (well, also my exams, and my work). It
>> would maybe be a good idea to change the default pemissions so to be
>> able to configure it properly from the beginning.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...> wrote:
>> > Hi Alexander,
>> >
>> > No problem! I'm glad to help! The combo-box I mentioned is the one
>> > showing the one showing your Configured Mouse. If you click on it, you
>> > should see Aiptek on the list. Check out my screen shot here:
>> >
>> > http://www.dm.ufscar.br/profs/waldeck/the-gimp.jpg
>> >
>> > In fact, the Aiptek tablet does not show on my list of Input Controllers
>> > either, but it works as I told you before nevertheless.
>> >
>> > My tablet is actually the Trust TB-4200, AFAIK a rebrand of the 12000U.
>> > >From the driver point-of-view, yours and all other derivatives/rebrands
>> > should work just fine.
>> >
>> > The driver for these beasts consist of two parts: a kernel driver and a
>> > xorg driver.
>> >
>> > I made a few changes to the kernel driver to take advantage of the
>> > increased resolution on the 12000U. Mine is running at about 3000DPI
>> > instead of the default 500DPI. I also made a few changes in the xorg
>> > driver to implement filtering, but I have not had great success. It
>> > seems to me that the sampling rate on the hardware is not enough to
>> > achieve the desired resolution. My pointer actually shivers a bit and I
>> > was trying to smoothen it out.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately I do not have the time right now to finish what I started.
>> > As soon as I can do that I'll be discussing the changes with Jan to see
>> > if they are sound enough to eventually make their way to the distros.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps.
>> >
>> > Waldeck Schutzer
>> >
>> > On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 10:34 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
>> >> Hi Waldeck,
>> >>
>> >> thank you very much for your reply! Unfortunately, in the Configure
>> >> Input Devices dialog box, I could not find such a thing as the Device
>> >> combo box (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/2.png). Maybe, that is because
>> >> my Aiptek is not recognized at all. I checked it in the Input
>> >> Controller tab and found that my tablet was neither among the
>> >> available nor among the active controlers. So I added a Linux Input
>> >> (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/1.png), but it says there "Device not
>> >> available: Permission denied", and there was no effect.
>> >>
>> >> I wonder whether you succeeded with the same model, Aiptek HyperPen
>> >> 12000U? If so, I will try Intrepid again :-)
>> >>
>> >> Thank you!
>> >>
>> >> Alexander
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2009/2/11 Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...>:
>> >> > Hi Alexander,
>> >> >
>> >> > Have you tried this on Gimp? This is what works quite well for me on
>> >> > Intrepid: choose Edit->Preferences then open the Input Devivces tab.
>> >> > Under Extended Input Devices, hit the Configure Extended Input devices
>> >> > button. The Configure Input Devices dialog box should pop up. Now click
>> >> > on the Device combo box. There you should find Aiptek, so click on it.
>> >> > Finally, choose Screen on the mode combo and hit Save to close that
>> >> > dialog box. Now you should be back to the Preferences dialog, so hit the
>> >> > Save Input Devices Settings Now button, to keep you choices permanent
>> >> > throughout sessions. Now you should be able to enjoy the pressure
>> >> > sensitivity.
>> >> >
>> >> > Hope this helps,
>> >> > Waldeck Schutzer
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 22:45 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I really don't know what to do about my Aiptek 12000U. I decided to go
>> >> >> on painting in Gimp, and I also am happy with the tablet, so the idea
>> >> >> of having to buy and get used to another tablet ONLY because I
>> >> >> couldn't get the Aiptek running on Linux is really annoying.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So I re-post my problem; I attatched my original message and Jan's
>> >> >> reply. Also, just to point that out: I tried the Aiptek 12000U both on
>> >> >> Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) and on 8.04 (Hardy, which I'm currently using),
>> >> >> and it had the same effect: It basically works, it's just not pressure
>> >> >> sensitive.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So I'm really looking forward to replies.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2008/11/22 Alexander Erlich <ale...@gm...>:
>> >> >> > Hello,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am using Ubuntu 8.04 and an Aiptek 12000U tablet. I'd really like to
>> >> >> > get it going, but the information I find confuses me.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have found the aiptektablet project on sourceforge:
>> >> >> > http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/ . I also I took a look at the
>> >> >> > sourceforge page itself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aiptektablet
>> >> >> > . The only documentation I considered relevant was the WIP release,
>> >> >> > which I didn't understand (I don't have profound knowledge of Linux,
>> >> >> > e.g. I never edited the xorg.conf).
>> >> >> > Also, I found a tutorial in the ubuntu documentation:
>> >> >> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet . I was wondering about
>> >> >> > that the tutorial does not use the aiptektablet sourceforge project at
>> >> >> > all.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
>> >> >> > great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
>> >> >> > this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
>> >> >> > work!"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Alexander
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > http://www.airlich.de
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2008/11/23 Jan Kandziora <jj...@gm...>:
>> >> >> > Am Samstag, 22. November 2008 schrieb Alexander Erlich:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
>> >> >> >> great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
>> >> >> >> this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
>> >> >> >> work!"
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > Not so easy. I'm currently the only developler left (I joined recently, maybe
>> >> >> > Waldeck Schutzer joins, too) and the whole aiptektablet project is kind of
>> >> >> > stalled.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The aiptek tablet driver is included in the Linux kernel and xorg, but both
>> >> >> > may have an outdated version of it, which no longer works (especially xorg).
>> >> >> > maybe someone at Ubuntu patched it?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Kind regards
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >        Jan
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge
>> >> >> > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes
>> >> >> > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world
>> >> >> > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> > Aiptektablet-users mailing list
>> >> >> > Aip...@li...
>> >> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
>> >> >> software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
>> >> >> build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
>> >> >> resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
>> >> >> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> Aiptektablet-users mailing list
>> >> >> Aip...@li...
>> >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> > Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
>> >> > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
>> >> > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
>> >> > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
>> >> > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Aiptektablet-users mailing list
>> >> > Aip...@li...
>> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
>> >> software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
>> >> build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
>> >> resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
>> >> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Aiptektablet-users mailing list
>> >> Aip...@li...
>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
>> > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
>> > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
>> > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
>> > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Aiptektablet-users mailing list
>> > Aip...@li...
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
> software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
> build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
> resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
> _______________________________________________
> Aiptektablet-users mailing list
> Aip...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>



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Re: [Aiptektablet-users] Fwd: Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know where to start

[Waldeck S. <wa...@dm...>]

Hi Néstor,

Actually the right behavior for the pointer would be Window Mode. The
problem with the pressure sensitivity is not an issue in the drivers but
it has to be properly set up on Configure Extended Input Devices. Please
have a look at this screenshot:

http://www.dm.ufscar.br/profs/waldeck/the-gimp.jpg

Everything else seems ok to me, although I have never had to worry about
the permissions before. Actually on Intrepid, which I am now using, the
soft link /dev/input/aiptektablet is no longer needed, and you can plug
in and unplug your tablet anytime (but during the logon, due to an
undiagnosed problem that causes xorg to crash).

Cheers,
Waldeck


On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 00:01 +0100, Néstor wrote:
> Sorry. Now, I have everything in my FTP server, which is:
> 
> ftp://nestux.homelinux.org/aiptek/
> 
> All the formerly attached documents are now there.
> 
> It was too big for the mailing list!! I must apologize, I didn't
> realize. That's why I forward this message.
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Néstor <nes...@gm...>
> Date: Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Aiptektablet-users] Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know
> where to  start
> To: aip...@li...
> 
> 
> I'm using Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 on a 32bit machine, with it's default Xorg
> server updated for security to the last stable version.
> 
> Nope, nothing. I would REALLY want to go and solve this issue :-)
> Please, take a look at the attached information. I will surely help
> you if I can, because I have this tablet since at least 6 months. And
> I can not use it on Ubuntu!! If you need more information, or anything
> else, tell me. The sooner I get this working the better :-)
> 
> I have got the following:
> 
> /dev/input/aiptektablet link to the device, with proper permissions.
> Permissions are set by hand, until now.
> 
> "pen" device under Xorg.conf, Gimp 2.4.5 recognizes it flawlessly, You
> can use it as a normal mouse, clicking on menus and so on. (BTW, is
> this the right behaviour??)
> 
> # evtest /dev/input/aiptektablet > evtest
> works also flawlessly, look at the compressed output attached. It even
> recognizes the pressure
> 
> So what am I doing wrong?? Thank you.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...> wrote:
> > Hi Néstor,
> >
> > AFAIK this is not a matter of permissions. If you followed the guides,
> > you should get you tablet to work just fine, including pressure
> > sensitivity. This is just a matter of setting it up properly on Gimp, as
> > the screenshot I posted can confirm. I'm also quite happy with my tablet
> > working fine on InkScape as well.
> >
> > Please let us know if you still have trouble using your tablet.
> >
> > Waldeck
> >
> > On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 17:45 +0100, Néstor wrote:
> >> I am having the same problem with a Trust TB-3100, pressure does not
> >> work at all with the Gimp. Can you use pressure on Gimp?? I think it
> >> is a matter of permissions. I'm maybe taking a look into it soon. Any
> >> comments?? I have already sent a bug to Ubuntu. It has prevented me
> >> from using it for months!! (well, also my exams, and my work). It
> >> would maybe be a good idea to change the default pemissions so to be
> >> able to configure it properly from the beginning.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...> wrote:
> >> > Hi Alexander,
> >> >
> >> > No problem! I'm glad to help! The combo-box I mentioned is the one
> >> > showing the one showing your Configured Mouse. If you click on it, you
> >> > should see Aiptek on the list. Check out my screen shot here:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.dm.ufscar.br/profs/waldeck/the-gimp.jpg
> >> >
> >> > In fact, the Aiptek tablet does not show on my list of Input Controllers
> >> > either, but it works as I told you before nevertheless.
> >> >
> >> > My tablet is actually the Trust TB-4200, AFAIK a rebrand of the 12000U.
> >> > >From the driver point-of-view, yours and all other derivatives/rebrands
> >> > should work just fine.
> >> >
> >> > The driver for these beasts consist of two parts: a kernel driver and a
> >> > xorg driver.
> >> >
> >> > I made a few changes to the kernel driver to take advantage of the
> >> > increased resolution on the 12000U. Mine is running at about 3000DPI
> >> > instead of the default 500DPI. I also made a few changes in the xorg
> >> > driver to implement filtering, but I have not had great success. It
> >> > seems to me that the sampling rate on the hardware is not enough to
> >> > achieve the desired resolution. My pointer actually shivers a bit and I
> >> > was trying to smoothen it out.
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately I do not have the time right now to finish what I started.
> >> > As soon as I can do that I'll be discussing the changes with Jan to see
> >> > if they are sound enough to eventually make their way to the distros.
> >> >
> >> > Hope this helps.
> >> >
> >> > Waldeck Schutzer
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 10:34 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
> >> >> Hi Waldeck,
> >> >>
> >> >> thank you very much for your reply! Unfortunately, in the Configure
> >> >> Input Devices dialog box, I could not find such a thing as the Device
> >> >> combo box (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/2.png). Maybe, that is because
> >> >> my Aiptek is not recognized at all. I checked it in the Input
> >> >> Controller tab and found that my tablet was neither among the
> >> >> available nor among the active controlers. So I added a Linux Input
> >> >> (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/1.png), but it says there "Device not
> >> >> available: Permission denied", and there was no effect.
> >> >>
> >> >> I wonder whether you succeeded with the same model, Aiptek HyperPen
> >> >> 12000U? If so, I will try Intrepid again :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you!
> >> >>
> >> >> Alexander
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2009/2/11 Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...>:
> >> >> > Hi Alexander,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Have you tried this on Gimp? This is what works quite well for me on
> >> >> > Intrepid: choose Edit->Preferences then open the Input Devivces tab.
> >> >> > Under Extended Input Devices, hit the Configure Extended Input devices
> >> >> > button. The Configure Input Devices dialog box should pop up. Now click
> >> >> > on the Device combo box. There you should find Aiptek, so click on it.
> >> >> > Finally, choose Screen on the mode combo and hit Save to close that
> >> >> > dialog box. Now you should be back to the Preferences dialog, so hit the
> >> >> > Save Input Devices Settings Now button, to keep you choices permanent
> >> >> > throughout sessions. Now you should be able to enjoy the pressure
> >> >> > sensitivity.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hope this helps,
> >> >> > Waldeck Schutzer
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 22:45 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
> >> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I really don't know what to do about my Aiptek 12000U. I decided to go
> >> >> >> on painting in Gimp, and I also am happy with the tablet, so the idea
> >> >> >> of having to buy and get used to another tablet ONLY because I
> >> >> >> couldn't get the Aiptek running on Linux is really annoying.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So I re-post my problem; I attatched my original message and Jan's
> >> >> >> reply. Also, just to point that out: I tried the Aiptek 12000U both on
> >> >> >> Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) and on 8.04 (Hardy, which I'm currently using),
> >> >> >> and it had the same effect: It basically works, it's just not pressure
> >> >> >> sensitive.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So I'm really looking forward to replies.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 2008/11/22 Alexander Erlich <ale...@gm...>:
> >> >> >> > Hello,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I am using Ubuntu 8.04 and an Aiptek 12000U tablet. I'd really like to
> >> >> >> > get it going, but the information I find confuses me.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I have found the aiptektablet project on sourceforge:
> >> >> >> > http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/ . I also I took a look at the
> >> >> >> > sourceforge page itself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aiptektablet
> >> >> >> > . The only documentation I considered relevant was the WIP release,
> >> >> >> > which I didn't understand (I don't have profound knowledge of Linux,
> >> >> >> > e.g. I never edited the xorg.conf).
> >> >> >> > Also, I found a tutorial in the ubuntu documentation:
> >> >> >> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet . I was wondering about
> >> >> >> > that the tutorial does not use the aiptektablet sourceforge project at
> >> >> >> > all.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
> >> >> >> > great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
> >> >> >> > this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
> >> >> >> > work!"
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Alexander
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > http://www.airlich.de
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 2008/11/23 Jan Kandziora <jj...@gm...>:
> >> >> >> > Am Samstag, 22. November 2008 schrieb Alexander Erlich:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
> >> >> >> >> great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
> >> >> >> >> this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
> >> >> >> >> work!"
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Not so easy. I'm currently the only developler left (I joined recently, maybe
> >> >> >> > Waldeck Schutzer joins, too) and the whole aiptektablet project is kind of
> >> >> >> > stalled.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The aiptek tablet driver is included in the Linux kernel and xorg, but both
> >> >> >> > may have an outdated version of it, which no longer works (especially xorg).
> >> >> >> > maybe someone at Ubuntu patched it?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Kind regards
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >        Jan
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated.
> >> >> >> >
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> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
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> >> >> >> > Aip...@li...
> >> >> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
> >> >> >> software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
> >> >> >> build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
> >> >> >> resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
> >> >> >> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> Aiptektablet-users mailing list
> >> >> >> Aip...@li...
> >> >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> > Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
> >> >> > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
> >> >> > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
> >> >> > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
> >> >> > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > Aiptektablet-users mailing list
> >> >> > Aip...@li...
> >> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
> >> >> software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
> >> >> build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
> >> >> resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
> >> >> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Aiptektablet-users mailing list
> >> >> Aip...@li...
> >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
> >> > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
> >> > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
> >> > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
> >> > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Aiptektablet-users mailing list
> >> > Aip...@li...
> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
> > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
> > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
> > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
> > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Aiptektablet-users mailing list
> > Aip...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Néstor
> +34 687 96 74 81
> nes...@gm...
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Aiptektablet-users] Fwd: Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know where to start

[Waldeck S. <wa...@dm...>]

Actually I meant to say Screen Mode! Sorry.

Waldeck

On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 01:03 -0200, Waldeck Schutzer wrote:
> Hi Néstor,
> 
> Actually the right behavior for the pointer would be Window Mode. The
> problem with the pressure sensitivity is not an issue in the drivers but
> it has to be properly set up on Configure Extended Input Devices. Please
> have a look at this screenshot:
> 
> http://www.dm.ufscar.br/profs/waldeck/the-gimp.jpg
> 
> Everything else seems ok to me, although I have never had to worry about
> the permissions before. Actually on Intrepid, which I am now using, the
> soft link /dev/input/aiptektablet is no longer needed, and you can plug
> in and unplug your tablet anytime (but during the logon, due to an
> undiagnosed problem that causes xorg to crash).
> 
> Cheers,
> Waldeck
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 00:01 +0100, Néstor wrote:
> > Sorry. Now, I have everything in my FTP server, which is:
> > 
> > ftp://nestux.homelinux.org/aiptek/
> > 
> > All the formerly attached documents are now there.
> > 
> > It was too big for the mailing list!! I must apologize, I didn't
> > realize. That's why I forward this message.
> > 
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Néstor <nes...@gm...>
> > Date: Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Aiptektablet-users] Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know
> > where to  start
> > To: aip...@li...
> > 
> > 
> > I'm using Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 on a 32bit machine, with it's default Xorg
> > server updated for security to the last stable version.
> > 
> > Nope, nothing. I would REALLY want to go and solve this issue :-)
> > Please, take a look at the attached information. I will surely help
> > you if I can, because I have this tablet since at least 6 months. And
> > I can not use it on Ubuntu!! If you need more information, or anything
> > else, tell me. The sooner I get this working the better :-)
> > 
> > I have got the following:
> > 
> > /dev/input/aiptektablet link to the device, with proper permissions.
> > Permissions are set by hand, until now.
> > 
> > "pen" device under Xorg.conf, Gimp 2.4.5 recognizes it flawlessly, You
> > can use it as a normal mouse, clicking on menus and so on. (BTW, is
> > this the right behaviour??)
> > 
> > # evtest /dev/input/aiptektablet > evtest
> > works also flawlessly, look at the compressed output attached. It even
> > recognizes the pressure
> > 
> > So what am I doing wrong?? Thank you.
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...> wrote:
> > > Hi Néstor,
> > >
> > > AFAIK this is not a matter of permissions. If you followed the guides,
> > > you should get you tablet to work just fine, including pressure
> > > sensitivity. This is just a matter of setting it up properly on Gimp, as
> > > the screenshot I posted can confirm. I'm also quite happy with my tablet
> > > working fine on InkScape as well.
> > >
> > > Please let us know if you still have trouble using your tablet.
> > >
> > > Waldeck
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 17:45 +0100, Néstor wrote:
> > >> I am having the same problem with a Trust TB-3100, pressure does not
> > >> work at all with the Gimp. Can you use pressure on Gimp?? I think it
> > >> is a matter of permissions. I'm maybe taking a look into it soon. Any
> > >> comments?? I have already sent a bug to Ubuntu. It has prevented me
> > >> from using it for months!! (well, also my exams, and my work). It
> > >> would maybe be a good idea to change the default pemissions so to be
> > >> able to configure it properly from the beginning.
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...> wrote:
> > >> > Hi Alexander,
> > >> >
> > >> > No problem! I'm glad to help! The combo-box I mentioned is the one
> > >> > showing the one showing your Configured Mouse. If you click on it, you
> > >> > should see Aiptek on the list. Check out my screen shot here:
> > >> >
> > >> > http://www.dm.ufscar.br/profs/waldeck/the-gimp.jpg
> > >> >
> > >> > In fact, the Aiptek tablet does not show on my list of Input Controllers
> > >> > either, but it works as I told you before nevertheless.
> > >> >
> > >> > My tablet is actually the Trust TB-4200, AFAIK a rebrand of the 12000U.
> > >> > >From the driver point-of-view, yours and all other derivatives/rebrands
> > >> > should work just fine.
> > >> >
> > >> > The driver for these beasts consist of two parts: a kernel driver and a
> > >> > xorg driver.
> > >> >
> > >> > I made a few changes to the kernel driver to take advantage of the
> > >> > increased resolution on the 12000U. Mine is running at about 3000DPI
> > >> > instead of the default 500DPI. I also made a few changes in the xorg
> > >> > driver to implement filtering, but I have not had great success. It
> > >> > seems to me that the sampling rate on the hardware is not enough to
> > >> > achieve the desired resolution. My pointer actually shivers a bit and I
> > >> > was trying to smoothen it out.
> > >> >
> > >> > Unfortunately I do not have the time right now to finish what I started.
> > >> > As soon as I can do that I'll be discussing the changes with Jan to see
> > >> > if they are sound enough to eventually make their way to the distros.
> > >> >
> > >> > Hope this helps.
> > >> >
> > >> > Waldeck Schutzer
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 10:34 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
> > >> >> Hi Waldeck,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> thank you very much for your reply! Unfortunately, in the Configure
> > >> >> Input Devices dialog box, I could not find such a thing as the Device
> > >> >> combo box (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/2.png). Maybe, that is because
> > >> >> my Aiptek is not recognized at all. I checked it in the Input
> > >> >> Controller tab and found that my tablet was neither among the
> > >> >> available nor among the active controlers. So I added a Linux Input
> > >> >> (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/1.png), but it says there "Device not
> > >> >> available: Permission denied", and there was no effect.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I wonder whether you succeeded with the same model, Aiptek HyperPen
> > >> >> 12000U? If so, I will try Intrepid again :-)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thank you!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Alexander
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 2009/2/11 Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...>:
> > >> >> > Hi Alexander,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Have you tried this on Gimp? This is what works quite well for me on
> > >> >> > Intrepid: choose Edit->Preferences then open the Input Devivces tab.
> > >> >> > Under Extended Input Devices, hit the Configure Extended Input devices
> > >> >> > button. The Configure Input Devices dialog box should pop up. Now click
> > >> >> > on the Device combo box. There you should find Aiptek, so click on it.
> > >> >> > Finally, choose Screen on the mode combo and hit Save to close that
> > >> >> > dialog box. Now you should be back to the Preferences dialog, so hit the
> > >> >> > Save Input Devices Settings Now button, to keep you choices permanent
> > >> >> > throughout sessions. Now you should be able to enjoy the pressure
> > >> >> > sensitivity.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Hope this helps,
> > >> >> > Waldeck Schutzer
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 22:45 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
> > >> >> >> Hi,
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> I really don't know what to do about my Aiptek 12000U. I decided to go
> > >> >> >> on painting in Gimp, and I also am happy with the tablet, so the idea
> > >> >> >> of having to buy and get used to another tablet ONLY because I
> > >> >> >> couldn't get the Aiptek running on Linux is really annoying.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> So I re-post my problem; I attatched my original message and Jan's
> > >> >> >> reply. Also, just to point that out: I tried the Aiptek 12000U both on
> > >> >> >> Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) and on 8.04 (Hardy, which I'm currently using),
> > >> >> >> and it had the same effect: It basically works, it's just not pressure
> > >> >> >> sensitive.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> So I'm really looking forward to replies.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> 2008/11/22 Alexander Erlich <ale...@gm...>:
> > >> >> >> > Hello,
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > I am using Ubuntu 8.04 and an Aiptek 12000U tablet. I'd really like to
> > >> >> >> > get it going, but the information I find confuses me.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > I have found the aiptektablet project on sourceforge:
> > >> >> >> > http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/ . I also I took a look at the
> > >> >> >> > sourceforge page itself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aiptektablet
> > >> >> >> > . The only documentation I considered relevant was the WIP release,
> > >> >> >> > which I didn't understand (I don't have profound knowledge of Linux,
> > >> >> >> > e.g. I never edited the xorg.conf).
> > >> >> >> > Also, I found a tutorial in the ubuntu documentation:
> > >> >> >> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet . I was wondering about
> > >> >> >> > that the tutorial does not use the aiptektablet sourceforge project at
> > >> >> >> > all.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
> > >> >> >> > great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
> > >> >> >> > this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
> > >> >> >> > work!"
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Alexander
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > --
> > >> >> >> > http://www.airlich.de
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> 2008/11/23 Jan Kandziora <jj...@gm...>:
> > >> >> >> > Am Samstag, 22. November 2008 schrieb Alexander Erlich:
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
> > >> >> >> >> great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
> > >> >> >> >> this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
> > >> >> >> >> work!"
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > Not so easy. I'm currently the only developler left (I joined recently, maybe
> > >> >> >> > Waldeck Schutzer joins, too) and the whole aiptektablet project is kind of
> > >> >> >> > stalled.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > The aiptek tablet driver is included in the Linux kernel and xorg, but both
> > >> >> >> > may have an outdated version of it, which no longer works (especially xorg).
> > >> >> >> > maybe someone at Ubuntu patched it?
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Kind regards
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >        Jan
> > >> >> >> > --
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> > 
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Re: [Aiptektablet-users] Fwd: Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know where to start

[Néstor <nes...@gm...>]

Thank you, Waldeck. But I'm using Screen Mode (in Spanish, "Screen" =
"Pantalla", "Window" = "Ventana"). So yes, it should work. I'm sorry
because it's not in English, I'll be putting it in English for the
next time. Maybe it doesn't work on Ubuntu Hardy at all, or just with
my tablet?? Could you try it please with Ubuntu Hardy?

Thank you, again.

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...> wrote:
> Actually I meant to say Screen Mode! Sorry.
>
> Waldeck
>
> On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 01:03 -0200, Waldeck Schutzer wrote:
>> Hi Néstor,
>>
>> Actually the right behavior for the pointer would be Window Mode. The
>> problem with the pressure sensitivity is not an issue in the drivers but
>> it has to be properly set up on Configure Extended Input Devices. Please
>> have a look at this screenshot:
>>
>> http://www.dm.ufscar.br/profs/waldeck/the-gimp.jpg
>>
>> Everything else seems ok to me, although I have never had to worry about
>> the permissions before. Actually on Intrepid, which I am now using, the
>> soft link /dev/input/aiptektablet is no longer needed, and you can plug
>> in and unplug your tablet anytime (but during the logon, due to an
>> undiagnosed problem that causes xorg to crash).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Waldeck
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 00:01 +0100, Néstor wrote:
>> > Sorry. Now, I have everything in my FTP server, which is:
>> >
>> > ftp://nestux.homelinux.org/aiptek/
>> >
>> > All the formerly attached documents are now there.
>> >
>> > It was too big for the mailing list!! I must apologize, I didn't
>> > realize. That's why I forward this message.
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Néstor <nes...@gm...>
>> > Date: Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:39 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Aiptektablet-users] Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know
>> > where to  start
>> > To: aip...@li...
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm using Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 on a 32bit machine, with it's default Xorg
>> > server updated for security to the last stable version.
>> >
>> > Nope, nothing. I would REALLY want to go and solve this issue :-)
>> > Please, take a look at the attached information. I will surely help
>> > you if I can, because I have this tablet since at least 6 months. And
>> > I can not use it on Ubuntu!! If you need more information, or anything
>> > else, tell me. The sooner I get this working the better :-)
>> >
>> > I have got the following:
>> >
>> > /dev/input/aiptektablet link to the device, with proper permissions.
>> > Permissions are set by hand, until now.
>> >
>> > "pen" device under Xorg.conf, Gimp 2.4.5 recognizes it flawlessly, You
>> > can use it as a normal mouse, clicking on menus and so on. (BTW, is
>> > this the right behaviour??)
>> >
>> > # evtest /dev/input/aiptektablet > evtest
>> > works also flawlessly, look at the compressed output attached. It even
>> > recognizes the pressure
>> >
>> > So what am I doing wrong?? Thank you.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...> wrote:
>> > > Hi Néstor,
>> > >
>> > > AFAIK this is not a matter of permissions. If you followed the guides,
>> > > you should get you tablet to work just fine, including pressure
>> > > sensitivity. This is just a matter of setting it up properly on Gimp, as
>> > > the screenshot I posted can confirm. I'm also quite happy with my tablet
>> > > working fine on InkScape as well.
>> > >
>> > > Please let us know if you still have trouble using your tablet.
>> > >
>> > > Waldeck
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 17:45 +0100, Néstor wrote:
>> > >> I am having the same problem with a Trust TB-3100, pressure does not
>> > >> work at all with the Gimp. Can you use pressure on Gimp?? I think it
>> > >> is a matter of permissions. I'm maybe taking a look into it soon. Any
>> > >> comments?? I have already sent a bug to Ubuntu. It has prevented me
>> > >> from using it for months!! (well, also my exams, and my work). It
>> > >> would maybe be a good idea to change the default pemissions so to be
>> > >> able to configure it properly from the beginning.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...> wrote:
>> > >> > Hi Alexander,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > No problem! I'm glad to help! The combo-box I mentioned is the one
>> > >> > showing the one showing your Configured Mouse. If you click on it, you
>> > >> > should see Aiptek on the list. Check out my screen shot here:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > http://www.dm.ufscar.br/profs/waldeck/the-gimp.jpg
>> > >> >
>> > >> > In fact, the Aiptek tablet does not show on my list of Input Controllers
>> > >> > either, but it works as I told you before nevertheless.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > My tablet is actually the Trust TB-4200, AFAIK a rebrand of the 12000U.
>> > >> > >From the driver point-of-view, yours and all other derivatives/rebrands
>> > >> > should work just fine.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The driver for these beasts consist of two parts: a kernel driver and a
>> > >> > xorg driver.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I made a few changes to the kernel driver to take advantage of the
>> > >> > increased resolution on the 12000U. Mine is running at about 3000DPI
>> > >> > instead of the default 500DPI. I also made a few changes in the xorg
>> > >> > driver to implement filtering, but I have not had great success. It
>> > >> > seems to me that the sampling rate on the hardware is not enough to
>> > >> > achieve the desired resolution. My pointer actually shivers a bit and I
>> > >> > was trying to smoothen it out.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Unfortunately I do not have the time right now to finish what I started.
>> > >> > As soon as I can do that I'll be discussing the changes with Jan to see
>> > >> > if they are sound enough to eventually make their way to the distros.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Hope this helps.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Waldeck Schutzer
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 10:34 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
>> > >> >> Hi Waldeck,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> thank you very much for your reply! Unfortunately, in the Configure
>> > >> >> Input Devices dialog box, I could not find such a thing as the Device
>> > >> >> combo box (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/2.png). Maybe, that is because
>> > >> >> my Aiptek is not recognized at all. I checked it in the Input
>> > >> >> Controller tab and found that my tablet was neither among the
>> > >> >> available nor among the active controlers. So I added a Linux Input
>> > >> >> (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/1.png), but it says there "Device not
>> > >> >> available: Permission denied", and there was no effect.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> I wonder whether you succeeded with the same model, Aiptek HyperPen
>> > >> >> 12000U? If so, I will try Intrepid again :-)
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Thank you!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Alexander
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> 2009/2/11 Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...>:
>> > >> >> > Hi Alexander,
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Have you tried this on Gimp? This is what works quite well for me on
>> > >> >> > Intrepid: choose Edit->Preferences then open the Input Devivces tab.
>> > >> >> > Under Extended Input Devices, hit the Configure Extended Input devices
>> > >> >> > button. The Configure Input Devices dialog box should pop up. Now click
>> > >> >> > on the Device combo box. There you should find Aiptek, so click on it.
>> > >> >> > Finally, choose Screen on the mode combo and hit Save to close that
>> > >> >> > dialog box. Now you should be back to the Preferences dialog, so hit the
>> > >> >> > Save Input Devices Settings Now button, to keep you choices permanent
>> > >> >> > throughout sessions. Now you should be able to enjoy the pressure
>> > >> >> > sensitivity.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Hope this helps,
>> > >> >> > Waldeck Schutzer
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 22:45 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
>> > >> >> >> Hi,
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> I really don't know what to do about my Aiptek 12000U. I decided to go
>> > >> >> >> on painting in Gimp, and I also am happy with the tablet, so the idea
>> > >> >> >> of having to buy and get used to another tablet ONLY because I
>> > >> >> >> couldn't get the Aiptek running on Linux is really annoying.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> So I re-post my problem; I attatched my original message and Jan's
>> > >> >> >> reply. Also, just to point that out: I tried the Aiptek 12000U both on
>> > >> >> >> Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) and on 8.04 (Hardy, which I'm currently using),
>> > >> >> >> and it had the same effect: It basically works, it's just not pressure
>> > >> >> >> sensitive.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> So I'm really looking forward to replies.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> 2008/11/22 Alexander Erlich <ale...@gm...>:
>> > >> >> >> > Hello,
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > I am using Ubuntu 8.04 and an Aiptek 12000U tablet. I'd really like to
>> > >> >> >> > get it going, but the information I find confuses me.
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > I have found the aiptektablet project on sourceforge:
>> > >> >> >> > http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/ . I also I took a look at the
>> > >> >> >> > sourceforge page itself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aiptektablet
>> > >> >> >> > . The only documentation I considered relevant was the WIP release,
>> > >> >> >> > which I didn't understand (I don't have profound knowledge of Linux,
>> > >> >> >> > e.g. I never edited the xorg.conf).
>> > >> >> >> > Also, I found a tutorial in the ubuntu documentation:
>> > >> >> >> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet . I was wondering about
>> > >> >> >> > that the tutorial does not use the aiptektablet sourceforge project at
>> > >> >> >> > all.
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
>> > >> >> >> > great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
>> > >> >> >> > this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
>> > >> >> >> > work!"
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > Alexander
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > --
>> > >> >> >> > http://www.airlich.de
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> 2008/11/23 Jan Kandziora <jj...@gm...>:
>> > >> >> >> > Am Samstag, 22. November 2008 schrieb Alexander Erlich:
>> > >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
>> > >> >> >> >> great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
>> > >> >> >> >> this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
>> > >> >> >> >> work!"
>> > >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> > Not so easy. I'm currently the only developler left (I joined recently, maybe
>> > >> >> >> > Waldeck Schutzer joins, too) and the whole aiptektablet project is kind of
>> > >> >> >> > stalled.
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > The aiptek tablet driver is included in the Linux kernel and xorg, but both
>> > >> >> >> > may have an outdated version of it, which no longer works (especially xorg).
>> > >> >> >> > maybe someone at Ubuntu patched it?
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > Kind regards
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> >        Jan
>> > >> >> >> > --
>> > >> >> >> > We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated.
>> > >> >> >> >
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>> > >> >> >> > Aip...@li...
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>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >
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>> > >> >> > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
>> > >> >> > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
>> > >> >> > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
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>> > >> >> > Aip...@li...
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>> > >> >>
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>> > >> >> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
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>> > >> >> Aip...@li...
>> > >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >> > Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
>> > >> > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
>> > >> > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
>> > >> > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
>> > >> > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
>> > >> > _______________________________________________
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>> > >> > Aip...@li...
>> > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
>> > > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
>> > > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
>> > > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
>> > > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Aiptektablet-users mailing list
>> > > Aip...@li...
>> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Néstor
>> > +34 687 96 74 81
>> > nes...@gm...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
>> software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
>> build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
>> resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
>> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [Aiptektablet-users] Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know where to start

[Alexander E. <ale...@gm...>]

Hi Waldeck,

thank you for your screenshot! I tried it, but unfortunately, no
chance on Hardy for me. Aiptek is not listed where it should be.

But as you said you had Intrepid, I tried that too, with slightly more
success. I used it as a live CD ("boot with no changes to your
computer"), I have no installed version in Intrepid. Both my notebook
and my standalone PC showed the same behaviour. With the Aiptek
inserted and Intrepid booted, I can use the tablet to move on the
desktop, but the click does not work at all. I can not click on
symbols, not drag the select box, nothing of that (all of that
actually does work on Hardy). When I tried the Configure Input Devices
dialog in Gimp (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/3.png), Aiptek was actually
recognized, like in your screenshot (and unlike in Hardy). But I could
not make any changes to that dialog window! Pressure was on "none" by
default, and choosing 1 or 2 was immediately "forgotten", dropping
back on none. In the same manner, everything else was unchangeable.

Do you have any idea what might be wrong?

Alexander

2009/2/11 Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...>:
> Hi Alexander,
>
> No problem! I'm glad to help! The combo-box I mentioned is the one
> showing the one showing your Configured Mouse. If you click on it, you
> should see Aiptek on the list. Check out my screen shot here:
>
> http://www.dm.ufscar.br/profs/waldeck/the-gimp.jpg
>
> In fact, the Aiptek tablet does not show on my list of Input Controllers
> either, but it works as I told you before nevertheless.
>
> My tablet is actually the Trust TB-4200, AFAIK a rebrand of the 12000U.
> >From the driver point-of-view, yours and all other derivatives/rebrands
> should work just fine.
>
> The driver for these beasts consist of two parts: a kernel driver and a
> xorg driver.
>
> I made a few changes to the kernel driver to take advantage of the
> increased resolution on the 12000U. Mine is running at about 3000DPI
> instead of the default 500DPI. I also made a few changes in the xorg
> driver to implement filtering, but I have not had great success. It
> seems to me that the sampling rate on the hardware is not enough to
> achieve the desired resolution. My pointer actually shivers a bit and I
> was trying to smoothen it out.
>
> Unfortunately I do not have the time right now to finish what I started.
> As soon as I can do that I'll be discussing the changes with Jan to see
> if they are sound enough to eventually make their way to the distros.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Waldeck Schutzer
>
> On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 10:34 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
>> Hi Waldeck,
>>
>> thank you very much for your reply! Unfortunately, in the Configure
>> Input Devices dialog box, I could not find such a thing as the Device
>> combo box (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/2.png). Maybe, that is because
>> my Aiptek is not recognized at all. I checked it in the Input
>> Controller tab and found that my tablet was neither among the
>> available nor among the active controlers. So I added a Linux Input
>> (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/1.png), but it says there "Device not
>> available: Permission denied", and there was no effect.
>>
>> I wonder whether you succeeded with the same model, Aiptek HyperPen
>> 12000U? If so, I will try Intrepid again :-)
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Alexander
>>
>>
>> 2009/2/11 Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...>:
>> > Hi Alexander,
>> >
>> > Have you tried this on Gimp? This is what works quite well for me on
>> > Intrepid: choose Edit->Preferences then open the Input Devivces tab.
>> > Under Extended Input Devices, hit the Configure Extended Input devices
>> > button. The Configure Input Devices dialog box should pop up. Now click
>> > on the Device combo box. There you should find Aiptek, so click on it.
>> > Finally, choose Screen on the mode combo and hit Save to close that
>> > dialog box. Now you should be back to the Preferences dialog, so hit the
>> > Save Input Devices Settings Now button, to keep you choices permanent
>> > throughout sessions. Now you should be able to enjoy the pressure
>> > sensitivity.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps,
>> > Waldeck Schutzer
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 22:45 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I really don't know what to do about my Aiptek 12000U. I decided to go
>> >> on painting in Gimp, and I also am happy with the tablet, so the idea
>> >> of having to buy and get used to another tablet ONLY because I
>> >> couldn't get the Aiptek running on Linux is really annoying.
>> >>
>> >> So I re-post my problem; I attatched my original message and Jan's
>> >> reply. Also, just to point that out: I tried the Aiptek 12000U both on
>> >> Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) and on 8.04 (Hardy, which I'm currently using),
>> >> and it had the same effect: It basically works, it's just not pressure
>> >> sensitive.
>> >>
>> >> So I'm really looking forward to replies.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2008/11/22 Alexander Erlich <ale...@gm...>:
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > I am using Ubuntu 8.04 and an Aiptek 12000U tablet. I'd really like to
>> >> > get it going, but the information I find confuses me.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have found the aiptektablet project on sourceforge:
>> >> > http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/ . I also I took a look at the
>> >> > sourceforge page itself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aiptektablet
>> >> > . The only documentation I considered relevant was the WIP release,
>> >> > which I didn't understand (I don't have profound knowledge of Linux,
>> >> > e.g. I never edited the xorg.conf).
>> >> > Also, I found a tutorial in the ubuntu documentation:
>> >> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet . I was wondering about
>> >> > that the tutorial does not use the aiptektablet sourceforge project at
>> >> > all.
>> >> >
>> >> > Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
>> >> > great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
>> >> > this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
>> >> > work!"
>> >> >
>> >> > Alexander
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > http://www.airlich.de
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2008/11/23 Jan Kandziora <jj...@gm...>:
>> >> > Am Samstag, 22. November 2008 schrieb Alexander Erlich:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
>> >> >> great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
>> >> >> this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
>> >> >> work!"
>> >> >>
>> >> > Not so easy. I'm currently the only developler left (I joined recently, maybe
>> >> > Waldeck Schutzer joins, too) and the whole aiptektablet project is kind of
>> >> > stalled.
>> >> >
>> >> > The aiptek tablet driver is included in the Linux kernel and xorg, but both
>> >> > may have an outdated version of it, which no longer works (especially xorg).
>> >> > maybe someone at Ubuntu patched it?
>> >> >
>> >> > Kind regards
>> >> >
>> >> >        Jan
>> >> > --
>> >> > We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated.
>> >> >
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Re: [Aiptektablet-users] Aiptek 12000U: Really don't know where to start

[Néstor <nes...@gm...>]

Maybe you have trouble with the permissions?? Please, tell me if you
are successful on your task!! And try the Gimp as root. Even if it's
not for everyday use!!

Good luck!! And please, share the information.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Alexander Erlich
<ale...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi Waldeck,
>
> thank you for your screenshot! I tried it, but unfortunately, no
> chance on Hardy for me. Aiptek is not listed where it should be.
>
> But as you said you had Intrepid, I tried that too, with slightly more
> success. I used it as a live CD ("boot with no changes to your
> computer"), I have no installed version in Intrepid. Both my notebook
> and my standalone PC showed the same behaviour. With the Aiptek
> inserted and Intrepid booted, I can use the tablet to move on the
> desktop, but the click does not work at all. I can not click on
> symbols, not drag the select box, nothing of that (all of that
> actually does work on Hardy). When I tried the Configure Input Devices
> dialog in Gimp (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/3.png), Aiptek was actually
> recognized, like in your screenshot (and unlike in Hardy). But I could
> not make any changes to that dialog window! Pressure was on "none" by
> default, and choosing 1 or 2 was immediately "forgotten", dropping
> back on none. In the same manner, everything else was unchangeable.
>
> Do you have any idea what might be wrong?
>
> Alexander
>
> 2009/2/11 Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...>:
>> Hi Alexander,
>>
>> No problem! I'm glad to help! The combo-box I mentioned is the one
>> showing the one showing your Configured Mouse. If you click on it, you
>> should see Aiptek on the list. Check out my screen shot here:
>>
>> http://www.dm.ufscar.br/profs/waldeck/the-gimp.jpg
>>
>> In fact, the Aiptek tablet does not show on my list of Input Controllers
>> either, but it works as I told you before nevertheless.
>>
>> My tablet is actually the Trust TB-4200, AFAIK a rebrand of the 12000U.
>> >From the driver point-of-view, yours and all other derivatives/rebrands
>> should work just fine.
>>
>> The driver for these beasts consist of two parts: a kernel driver and a
>> xorg driver.
>>
>> I made a few changes to the kernel driver to take advantage of the
>> increased resolution on the 12000U. Mine is running at about 3000DPI
>> instead of the default 500DPI. I also made a few changes in the xorg
>> driver to implement filtering, but I have not had great success. It
>> seems to me that the sampling rate on the hardware is not enough to
>> achieve the desired resolution. My pointer actually shivers a bit and I
>> was trying to smoothen it out.
>>
>> Unfortunately I do not have the time right now to finish what I started.
>> As soon as I can do that I'll be discussing the changes with Jan to see
>> if they are sound enough to eventually make their way to the distros.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Waldeck Schutzer
>>
>> On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 10:34 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
>>> Hi Waldeck,
>>>
>>> thank you very much for your reply! Unfortunately, in the Configure
>>> Input Devices dialog box, I could not find such a thing as the Device
>>> combo box (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/2.png). Maybe, that is because
>>> my Aiptek is not recognized at all. I checked it in the Input
>>> Controller tab and found that my tablet was neither among the
>>> available nor among the active controlers. So I added a Linux Input
>>> (http://www.airlich.de/Gimp/1.png), but it says there "Device not
>>> available: Permission denied", and there was no effect.
>>>
>>> I wonder whether you succeeded with the same model, Aiptek HyperPen
>>> 12000U? If so, I will try Intrepid again :-)
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Alexander
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/2/11 Waldeck Schutzer <wa...@dm...>:
>>> > Hi Alexander,
>>> >
>>> > Have you tried this on Gimp? This is what works quite well for me on
>>> > Intrepid: choose Edit->Preferences then open the Input Devivces tab.
>>> > Under Extended Input Devices, hit the Configure Extended Input devices
>>> > button. The Configure Input Devices dialog box should pop up. Now click
>>> > on the Device combo box. There you should find Aiptek, so click on it.
>>> > Finally, choose Screen on the mode combo and hit Save to close that
>>> > dialog box. Now you should be back to the Preferences dialog, so hit the
>>> > Save Input Devices Settings Now button, to keep you choices permanent
>>> > throughout sessions. Now you should be able to enjoy the pressure
>>> > sensitivity.
>>> >
>>> > Hope this helps,
>>> > Waldeck Schutzer
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 22:45 +0100, Alexander Erlich wrote:
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> I really don't know what to do about my Aiptek 12000U. I decided to go
>>> >> on painting in Gimp, and I also am happy with the tablet, so the idea
>>> >> of having to buy and get used to another tablet ONLY because I
>>> >> couldn't get the Aiptek running on Linux is really annoying.
>>> >>
>>> >> So I re-post my problem; I attatched my original message and Jan's
>>> >> reply. Also, just to point that out: I tried the Aiptek 12000U both on
>>> >> Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) and on 8.04 (Hardy, which I'm currently using),
>>> >> and it had the same effect: It basically works, it's just not pressure
>>> >> sensitive.
>>> >>
>>> >> So I'm really looking forward to replies.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 2008/11/22 Alexander Erlich <ale...@gm...>:
>>> >> > Hello,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I am using Ubuntu 8.04 and an Aiptek 12000U tablet. I'd really like to
>>> >> > get it going, but the information I find confuses me.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I have found the aiptektablet project on sourceforge:
>>> >> > http://aiptektablet.sourceforge.net/ . I also I took a look at the
>>> >> > sourceforge page itself: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aiptektablet
>>> >> > . The only documentation I considered relevant was the WIP release,
>>> >> > which I didn't understand (I don't have profound knowledge of Linux,
>>> >> > e.g. I never edited the xorg.conf).
>>> >> > Also, I found a tutorial in the ubuntu documentation:
>>> >> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet . I was wondering about
>>> >> > that the tutorial does not use the aiptektablet sourceforge project at
>>> >> > all.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
>>> >> > great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
>>> >> > this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
>>> >> > work!"
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Alexander
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > http://www.airlich.de
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 2008/11/23 Jan Kandziora <jj...@gm...>:
>>> >> > Am Samstag, 22. November 2008 schrieb Alexander Erlich:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Actually, I don't know which documentation to follow. It would be
>>> >> >> great if you could give me some orientation, something like: "Read
>>> >> >> this link and follow this tutorial, and it'll (probably) (maybe)
>>> >> >> work!"
>>> >> >>
>>> >> > Not so easy. I'm currently the only developler left (I joined recently, maybe
>>> >> > Waldeck Schutzer joins, too) and the whole aiptektablet project is kind of
>>> >> > stalled.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The aiptek tablet driver is included in the Linux kernel and xorg, but both
>>> >> > may have an outdated version of it, which no longer works (especially xorg).
>>> >> > maybe someone at Ubuntu patched it?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Kind regards
>>> >> >
>>> >> >        Jan
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge
>>> >> > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes
>>> >> > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world
>>> >> > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/
>>> >> > _______________________________________________
>>> >> > Aiptektablet-users mailing list
>>> >> > Aip...@li...
>>> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>>> >>
>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM)
>>> >> software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
>>> >> build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
>>> >> resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
>>> >> Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> Aiptektablet-users mailing list
>>> >> Aip...@li...
>>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aiptektablet-users
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to
>>> > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local
>>> > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and
>>> > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com
>>> > _______________________________________________
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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