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From: Gustav W D. <gu...@ma...> - 2003-08-27 10:17:11
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Dear All, we are close to releasing the first beta. It now turns out that Ken's modifications and Alex's modifications to the servlet do not work well together. So AiM 3.0 beta will be released with Alex's modified servlet. Ken's servlet will be offered as an extra download. Neil at some point committed code to CVS that assumed that the kill program is there. So even though we don't use Ken's servlet at the moment we nevertheless include the code looking for the kill progam and process.exe in the windows case. Not using Ken's servlet removes the need to have two separate releases for windows and linux. The branch "windows" will not be used for the release. I have zipped up the head branch and posted it at http://aimmath.sourceforge.net/aim.zip. Could you please test this release? I have tested the installation on a clean Windows 2000 machine. There is one thing that still needs to be done before we can release this as a beta to the public: installation instructions for linux and OS X need to be written. Any volunteers? You will notice that I changed the installation instructions for Windows a bit. Installation is now done through a Maple worksheet AutoConfWin.mws rather than through AutoConf.mpl. This is because I can still remember that when I first installed AiM I had some difficulties figuring out how to start a command line maple in the correct directory (maple was not in my path). Every windows user should be able to open a maple worksheet however. Please continue to commit changes to the head branch. The beta will always be based on the latest version in CVS. I think we should release the first beta as soon as someone has written installation instructions for linux and has tested them. Gustav |
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From: Gustav W D. <gw...@yo...> - 2003-08-29 13:45:08
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Manolis and Greg have agreed to write installation instructions for linux and test them. Manolis says he can have them ready by Monday morning. There are still a number of bugs in the system. I have started reporting some new ones to the bug tracker at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=44411&atid=439479. Please all help in finding and squashing bugs. There is actually still one important unresolved issue: the -u flag for tth. It doesn't matter to us here at York because we will convert the latex to mathml within Moodle. But AiM users who do not want to use Moodle might really appreciate being able to set the -u flag. Without it AiM is not really useable with Netscape. I know that several of you have already put a lot of thought into it. Is the problem close to a resolution? We are now aiming for a beta release on Monday morning. Gustav |
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From: Greg G. <gr...@ma...> - 2003-08-29 14:08:49
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Gustav W Delius wrote: > There are still a number of bugs in the system. I have started reporting > some new ones to the bug tracker at > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=44411&atid=439479. Please all help > in finding and squashing bugs. Dear Gustav, I think you will find the problem with a> a where a is a vector will go away if you enclose the a with an eval(), i.e. a> eval(a) I'll check that myself a little later on. If that is the case, I'm not sure whether you could call this a bug ... it's a pest sometimes to have to remember to do this, but would an eval in the display routine fix it ... I'm not sure that it would. > There is actually still one important unresolved issue: the -u flag for tth. > It doesn't matter to us here at York because we will convert the latex to > mathml within Moodle. But AiM users who do not want to use Moodle might > really appreciate being able to set the -u flag. Without it AiM is not > really useable with Netscape. I know that several of you have already put a > lot of thought into it. Is the problem close to a resolution? The issue is whether you can set the -u flag or not dynamically dependent on the browser. (One can hard-set it to -u with no problem at all, if one knows all users use Netscape 6+, or can use Netscape 6+ ... basically, the problem is to accommodate the Internet Explorer users at the same time.) That said, I think a very minor tweak of my attempt at dynamically detecting the browser and setting the -u flag in case of Netscape/Mozilla is all that's needed ... I just haven't had the time to figure out why it doesn't work. OTOH, others have suggested that there's a simpler approach. It should be very easy. Regards, Greg |
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From: Gustav W D. <gw...@yo...> - 2003-08-29 14:39:34
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> I think you will find the problem with a> a where a is a vector will > go away if you enclose the a with an eval(), i.e. a> eval(a) Thanks Neil, that works. > That said, I think a very minor tweak of my attempt at dynamically > detecting the browser and setting the -u flag in case of Netscape/Mozilla > is all that's needed ... I just haven't had the time to figure out why it > doesn't work. OTOH, others have suggested that there's a simpler approach. > It should be very easy. It is worth doing then! Gustav |
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From: Manolis M. <ma...@ma...> - 2003-08-27 21:58:41
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> It now turns out that Ken's modifications and Alex's modifications to the > servlet do not work well together. So AiM 3.0 beta will be released with > Alex's modified servlet. Ken's servlet will be offered as an extra download. Do we need them in this release ? Does everyone agree with tihs solution from an implementation point of view ? I just don't see they way that the MathDisplay parameter would be send from every page (Neil comments ?) and if its reasonable to do so ? I am talking nonsense ? Does anyone use them at the moment ? Could I have some more information on how to use it ? > There is one thing that still needs to be done before we can release this as > a beta to the public: installation instructions for linux and OS X need to > be written. Any volunteers? > > I think we should release the first beta as soon as someone has written > installation instructions for linux and has tested them. I 'll do that next week |
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From: Gustav W D. <gu...@ma...> - 2003-08-27 22:14:53
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> Do we need them in this release ? Manolis is refering to the MathDisplay = latex option. Yes, we need that option here in York. We call the AiM pages from Moodle and we like to be able to get the latex output so that we can: 1) convert it to MathML for display, and 2) use it to produce pdf problem and solution sheets for printing. I think that many other places will do the same once they see how we do it. > I 'll do that next week Manolis is refering to writing installation instructions for unix and testing them. If there is no one else who wants to do it earlier, then I will release the beta with the windows instructions tomorrow and the full beta will have to wait until next week. However it should really be a quick thing to do, so I am still hoping that someone volunteers to do it tomorrow. I would do it, but I have never installed anything on unix before. Gustav |
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From: Manolis M. <ma...@ma...> - 2003-08-27 22:39:57
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> Manolis is refering to the MathDisplay = latex option. Yes, we need that > option here in York. We call the AiM pages from Moodle and we like to be > able to get the latex output so that we can: 1) convert it to MathML for > display, and 2) use it to produce pdf problem and solution sheets for > printing. I think that many other places will do the same once they see how > we do it. I don't argue that ... I was sceptical on passing the parameter around but I see why you need to do it this way. Maybe we can continue this discussion some other time maybe next release or when I incorporate Greg's and my changes on browser detection.... Manolis |
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From: Manolis M. <ma...@ma...> - 2003-08-27 22:43:13
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I ment I 'll have it ready by Monday.... but if someone starts anything before Friday evening please do and tell me so. Manolis ps. Who on earth decided that a day should have 24 hours ?! They are not enough... > > > I 'll do that next week > > Manolis is refering to writing installation instructions for unix and > testing them. If there is no one else who wants to do it earlier, then I > will release the beta with the windows instructions tomorrow and the full > beta will have to wait until next week. However it should really be a quick > thing to do, so I am still hoping that someone volunteers to do it tomorrow. > I would do it, but I have never installed anything on unix before. > > Gustav > |
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From: Greg G. <gr...@ma...> - 2003-08-28 05:54:30
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Gustav W Delius wrote: > ... > There is one thing that still needs to be done before we can release this as > a beta to the public: installation instructions for linux and OS X need to > be written. Any volunteers? > ... On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Gustav W Delius wrote: > Dear Greg, > > we need a volunteer to write installation instructions for linux and test > them. There will not be much change from the old instructions so the job > should not be too long. However I don't know enough about linux to do it > myself. > > Would you be able to do it? No one else has volunteered yet. Dear all, Sorry to be slow to respond to this ... yes, I'll do the Linux testing and create the Linux installation instructions. I should get around to this, tomorrow. The installation instructions will hopefully be in place sometime over the weekend. Regards, Greg |
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From: Greg G. <gr...@ma...> - 2003-08-29 16:14:56
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Greg Gamble wrote: > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Gustav W Delius wrote: > > we need a volunteer to write installation instructions for linux and test > > them. There will not be much change from the old instructions so the job > > should not be too long. However I don't know enough about linux to do it > > myself. > > Dear all, > > ... yes, I'll do the Linux testing > and create the Linux installation instructions ... Hi Gustav, Looking through your instructions I saw the links to: http://aimmath.sourceforge.net/j2re-1_4_2_01-windows-i586.exe etc. Did you happen to download the Linux equivalents as well? Is there a way that I can see what is there? I think it would be good to have a http://aimmath.sourceforge.net/download.html listing these. Are these files actually at the Sourceforge site or are they at York where http://aimmath.sourceforge.net/ redirects to? Regards, Greg |
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From: Gustav W D. <gw...@yo...> - 2003-08-29 16:21:38
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> Looking through your instructions I saw the links to: > > http://aimmath.sourceforge.net/j2re-1_4_2_01-windows-i586.exe I can download the Linux equivalents too. Just tell me which ones to use. > I think it would be > good to have a > > http://aimmath.sourceforge.net/download.html > > listing these. I don't see the use of that. As long as they are linked to from the installation instructions that should be enough. > Are these files actually at the Sourceforge site or > are they at York where http://aimmath.sourceforge.net/ redirects to? They are actually at SourceForge. Gustav |
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