[CompStrm Wiki] a nice looking web page...

[Bill la F. <laf...@ya...>]

Hi James!
   
  I got the web page and it looks nice. I hope you don't mind a bunch of feedback...
   
  We've really got 4 web sites:
   
  1. www.java.net Has its own standards for conformance. This is a "normal" web site that supports normal HTML and all. The audience here is Java developers. The goal of this site, for us, is to get them interested in either working on AgileWiki3 or, eventually, writing applications for it.
   
  If you go to https://java-enterprise.dev.java.net/ you will see a list of various projects there. These projects conform to the site requirements. And you'll note that the home page of each project is just a frame in the larger page, where the site provides the top and left frames. And they all use that ugly blue bar for navigation--required.
   
  2. project web pages for www.sourceforge.net Currently I'm just doing a redirect to the project page in AgileWiki2 at agilewiki.org. But I'm also keeping some resources there like slides. Before AgileWiki2 became self hosting, I used to have a huge site there, built up layer on layer over a 2 year period. It was pretty horrible.
   
  3. There is the AgileWiki2 self-hosting web site. The http://agilewiki.org/AgileWiki/index.html page is probably the only "normal" page on the site. Here we can put a page like you designed and change the link from sourceforge to point to it. All the other pages are constrained by the limitations of the AgileWiki2 program, which serves up these pages.
   
  This site is pretty badly messed up right now. The database died and I had not been taking backups, so I restored old content and then only updated the intentions page. This site will go off the air in 3 to 6 months.
   
  My current thinking is that this site serves only to demonstrate the prototype. Its a super wiki. But AgileWiki3 is (intended to be) both a wiki and an application server--like www.jotspot.com. Do take a look at this site, please. This site offers limited service for free but for things like access control (which even AgileWiki2 has), they charge.
   
  4. The new web site, coming up any day now. Some pages will be normal html pages, others will be the strange looking ones produced by the early alpha version of AgileWiki3. 
   
   
  General comments
   
  First on the Logo. The green doesn't seem to fit. Perhaps make it blue to match the circle? That then ties to the color of the web page and it all fits nicely. (I really don't see adding extra words to the logo later.) Otherwise I think the logo is great.
   
  On the bottom I see the weather. Is that part of the page? Adjusted for the location of the viewer based on IP address? More curious than anything.
   
  Last line I can't see too well. And its important. I like it there, but perhaps a little darker? 
   
  I don't want to dig into the content too much of the page you gave. Rather I'd first like to establish the context it is to serve in. It could not replace http://agilewiki.org/wiki/uuid/D3pUgh0M2Bk1HEzxa-4skWmN/_ as that is a page generated by the prototype. But it could replace http://agilewiki.org/AgileWiki/index.html and we could redirect the home page link at compstrm.sourceforge.net to point to it. Alternatively, we could have compstrm.sourceforge.net point to www.java.net so that we only have one web site for now. 
   
  I really want to de-emphasise the current agilewiki.org site as it is just the prototype and a bit out of date and messed up because of the last restore. I want to take the site (but not the URL) down as soon as possible. The new server will include the new (hardly working) code, as well as regular pages. 
   
  I could be clearer if it was clearer to me. Having 3 sites and a fourth coming up is a mess. I think for the moment its best just to focus on a nice page or 3 at www.java.net and perhaps have compstrm.sourceforge.net redirect you there for now.
   
  I'd also (and this addresses content) like to distinguish clearly between AgileWiki2 (a super wiki, but only a wiki, but still a prototype for AgileWiki3) and AgileWiki3 (a wiki-based application server).
   
  Bill

				
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