See "I constantly see new updates coming out and when using the "Update Notepad++" on the "?" returns that there are no updates available. How come?" in : http://notepad-plus.wiki.sourceforge.net/FAQ
Don
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But the current version is 5.1.3 with 5.1.4 coming out soon and the updater script still is pointing to 5.0.3? That's from a long time ago, and not a week as mentioned in the FAQ...
Allen Zhu
allen.jaloola@gmail.com
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I missed the last 3 or 4 updates because I didn't know manual updates under the "?" menu item wasn't working. (More precisely, it told me no updates available.) I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but when I looked at the files in the C:\Program Files\Notepad++\updater directory and plugged in the URL http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/commun/update/getDownLoadUrl.php to my address bar (Opera 9.63) it indicated v.5.0.3, which is the one I am using. And when I clicked on GUP.exe it started to download that version.
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x3lectric it is not broken. As per other threads, the update feature doesn't point to the new version until it has been out a week. It hasn't been out a week yet.
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That sucks. If anything, auto-update within a program should update BEFORE or WITH the public release via http/ftp.
The developer has the right to decide when he thinks it is save to let all users know of a new version.
This is not an emergency fix and includes some new features, so the developer reserves his right to delay the announcement, so only hardcore users, which usually provide clear problem reports know of it.
If you like to be one of the first to know a new release is done, subscribe to the RSS feed of the N++ homepage ;-)
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Stefan
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That sucks. If anything, auto-update within a program should update BEFORE or WITH the public release via http/ftp.
Microsoft releases patches the second Tuesday of every month (where very few exceptions). On that day, you can choose to go to Windows Update and get them. Or, you can setup auto-update to do this. If you choose to use auto-update they stagger the release of the patches to people from a day to two weeks after their release. This is something these choose to do to minimize computers being affected by issues if they find a problem in the wild. Don, decided to wait two weeks after the initial availability for the same reason.
Does it really suck?
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No, but it is hardly intuitive, as so many threads point out.
I think a wise, intelligible behaviur would be as follows:
1/ Menu command Update Notepad++ updates software if there is any newer version than calling program.
2/ If the newest release is too recent, pop up a confirmation to ask usr whether she wants to wait for the "quarantine" period or really update now.
3/ Auto update proposes a new version when quarantine is over, and then at shorter intervals (like every 3-5 days if quarantine remains st at 2 weeks). I don't know how Firefox autoupdate works, but I assume people are more familiar with the way it works.
CChris
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I understand, that auto update is delayed. No one will displease all users in case of a late bug. But if I click "check for update now" in the HELP menu, I expect to see any new version immediatelly. It's on my own risk, if I install it.
Please let professional users decide, how they will work and care for standard users through the auto update.
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I find it annoying that the program doesn't auto-update when a new version is released. The reason I set it to auto-update is that I want it updated ASAP. If I wanted to wait two weeks for an update, I would not have it set to auto-update.
More to the point, the program (v 5.9.6.2) reports "no update is available" when an update (v 5.9.7) is definitely available. Why?
The whole behaviour around updating just seems broken and strange. Why can't Notepad++ check for updates, detect them when they are available(!), and offer the user the choice to either update or (if there really is a concern that the new version might be buggy, although I've never noticed any such problems) to postpone the update reminder for x days?
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Actually, I withdraw my last comment and I apologise for the annoyance expressed. Apparently the update I mentioned (v 5.9.7) is an unofficial release. It would seem that a far worse problem is that sites like Softpedia and Majorgeeks appear to be in the habit of releasing independently compiled new versions of Notepad++ before they are released on the official site. Don Ho reports from his personal experience that installing one of these can be catastrophic. So instead of complaining about the failure to detect new versions, I'd like to complain about the premature availability of source code which encourages Majorgeeks, Softpedia, et all, to release unsafe versions prior to the official release.
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When are auto updates going to work again? As far as I can recall they've only worked on one update.
Yeah it looks like the update URL hasn't been refreshed for the latest versions. It's a simple fix for whoever manages that URL :)
It's just not triggered yet.
See "I constantly see new updates coming out and when using the "Update Notepad++" on the "?" returns that there are no updates available. How come?" in :
http://notepad-plus.wiki.sourceforge.net/FAQ
Don
Yes,
But the current version is 5.1.3 with 5.1.4 coming out soon and the updater script still is pointing to 5.0.3? That's from a long time ago, and not a week as mentioned in the FAQ...
Allen Zhu
allen.jaloola@gmail.com
I missed the last 3 or 4 updates because I didn't know manual updates under the "?" menu item wasn't working. (More precisely, it told me no updates available.) I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but when I looked at the files in the C:\Program Files\Notepad++\updater directory and plugged in the URL http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/commun/update/getDownLoadUrl.php to my address bar (Opera 9.63) it indicated v.5.0.3, which is the one I am using. And when I clicked on GUP.exe it started to download that version.
its still broken in 5.9.3
x3lectric it is not broken. As per other threads, the update feature doesn't point to the new version until it has been out a week. It hasn't been out a week yet.
That sucks. If anything, auto-update within a program should update BEFORE or WITH the public release via http/ftp.
The developer has the right to decide when he thinks it is save to let all users know of a new version.
This is not an emergency fix and includes some new features, so the developer reserves his right to delay the announcement, so only hardcore users, which usually provide clear problem reports know of it.
If you like to be one of the first to know a new release is done, subscribe to the RSS feed of the N++ homepage ;-)
--
Stefan
Microsoft releases patches the second Tuesday of every month (where very few exceptions). On that day, you can choose to go to Windows Update and get them. Or, you can setup auto-update to do this. If you choose to use auto-update they stagger the release of the patches to people from a day to two weeks after their release. This is something these choose to do to minimize computers being affected by issues if they find a problem in the wild. Don, decided to wait two weeks after the initial availability for the same reason.
Does it really suck?
No, but it is hardly intuitive, as so many threads point out.
I think a wise, intelligible behaviur would be as follows:
1/ Menu command Update Notepad++ updates software if there is any newer version than calling program.
2/ If the newest release is too recent, pop up a confirmation to ask usr whether she wants to wait for the "quarantine" period or really update now.
3/ Auto update proposes a new version when quarantine is over, and then at shorter intervals (like every 3-5 days if quarantine remains st at 2 weeks). I don't know how Firefox autoupdate works, but I assume people are more familiar with the way it works.
CChris
I understand, that auto update is delayed. No one will displease all users in case of a late bug. But if I click "check for update now" in the HELP menu, I expect to see any new version immediatelly. It's on my own risk, if I install it.
Please let professional users decide, how they will work and care for standard users through the auto update.
I find it annoying that the program doesn't auto-update when a new version is released. The reason I set it to auto-update is that I want it updated ASAP. If I wanted to wait two weeks for an update, I would not have it set to auto-update.
More to the point, the program (v 5.9.6.2) reports "no update is available" when an update (v 5.9.7) is definitely available. Why?
The whole behaviour around updating just seems broken and strange. Why can't Notepad++ check for updates, detect them when they are available(!), and offer the user the choice to either update or (if there really is a concern that the new version might be buggy, although I've never noticed any such problems) to postpone the update reminder for x days?
Actually, I withdraw my last comment and I apologise for the annoyance expressed. Apparently the update I mentioned (v 5.9.7) is an unofficial release. It would seem that a far worse problem is that sites like Softpedia and Majorgeeks appear to be in the habit of releasing independently compiled new versions of Notepad++ before they are released on the official site. Don Ho reports from his personal experience that installing one of these can be catastrophic. So instead of complaining about the failure to detect new versions, I'd like to complain about the premature availability of source code which encourages Majorgeeks, Softpedia, et all, to release unsafe versions prior to the official release.