I guess this forum will also be going away soon, hopefully with a better replacement(it would be hard to find a worse one :) ).
Thanks to the (former) gaim developers. Wow - so much of the last few years make sense now. I'm glad you guys are finally able to get things out in the open (and hopefully quit being hassled by AOL!). I'm glad you guys stuck with it, and are finally out of a losing situation where you can't provide the information that some of your users and audience so badly wanted, in order to protect those same people and the gaim client.
Another words - thank you! I'm sure you'll enjoy the new opportunity to move forward with everything in whatever ways you want. :D
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I have been thinking about joining gaim development in some manner for awhile. It's the open source project I am most interested in (besides Firefox) and I have been following it for quite a while. Further, while I am relatively unskilled I still think I can usefully contribute.
It seems to me the area I could best contribute right now would be a new UI for Windows. It seems the developers would prefer this actually be a separate project that uses libpurple - is this correct? Are there any projects out there, as I know it is better to join an existing one than start a new one?
Finally, do the developers have any words of wisdom / recommendations for where I could get involved? That is, would it be better if I spend time helping with the current windows build or even time helping with the Pidgin code?
For what it is worth, I run Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Win XP on 4 different machines at my house, and I run IM clients on all of them regularly, including now starting to video chat (primarily for when I travel). Obviously I can do a good deal of testing.
So - any advice or areas you'd like me to get involved? My ears are open. :D
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I think I can speak for the entire team when in saying that we'd love for people to write a native win32 UI and would be supportive of such an endeavour.
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Does anyone have advice / recommendations, or shall I just dive right in?
My main question is understanding what I can code the interface in, or how to use it with / bind it to libpurple. I also assume this should be a separate project, similar to Adium, correct?
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You can link to libpurple just as you would any other C library. You should be able to write the interface in any language that has bindings for both Glib (libpurple depends on glib, but not on GTK+) and for being linked against C libraries. I would suggest C, but C++ would certainly also work.
I would suggest you subscribe to devel@pidgin.im and commits.pidgin.im These mailing lists will help you significantly. See http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo You also want to consider tracker@pidgin.im, but that one is far more optional. Either way, you will want to register an account at developer.pidgin.im, and give it a real email address, though it does not *yet* require it.
You'll find the devel mailing list a much more fruitful place than this forum. As you have specific questions, I would suggest you turn to that list first.
We are also in the jabber conference devel@conference.pidgin.im and the irc channel #pidgin at irc.freenode.net
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Whew ! I've been scared for a while that GAIM was dying as a project (due to the sparsity of news), but this latest news post has given me some much needed relief. Congratulations on pushing past this difficult hurdle (and to many more)!.
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Yes, this forum will almost certainly be closed. I am not sure what, if anything, will replace it right now.
This forum has been largely ignored by the development team. While there have been bursts of activity by myself, deryni, datallah, and others, many and at times all posts get little or no attention from us.
The mailing lists on the other hand, get regular responces, and a high level of developer presence. Similarly, much effort was (in the past) put into maintaining the FAQ. At other times documentation was written, but in the face of a reality in which it was quite clearly not being read, the motivation to maintain & update those docs evaporated.
I suspect that, based on what I have observed of other projects, that while using a wiki/tracker combo for support in place of the forum/bug tracker combo offers some risks (there are some very confusing wikis out there), it can be a more useful and vibrant interaction. I want to try for that.
Right now we have trac, which provides an integrated wiki & tracker, up at developer.pidgin.im. It lacks a lot of information, some of which the current webpage (copied for now to www.pidgin.im) has.
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First of all congratulation and good luck with the name changes ;-)
But I wanted to know if it was possible to have more information (details) about the settlement of the case.
Since every thing was quiet secretive I do not know much about the details, but I am always interested in the resolution of such case.
thanks in advance,
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I believe you can peruse the appropriate mailing list (CABAL) - at least I was able to. But it might be easier to just wait until some more posts are made that provide more details. I imagine they will be coming sometime over the next few weeks, now that the uncertainty is over.
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I guess this forum will also be going away soon, hopefully with a better replacement(it would be hard to find a worse one :) ).
Thanks to the (former) gaim developers. Wow - so much of the last few years make sense now. I'm glad you guys are finally able to get things out in the open (and hopefully quit being hassled by AOL!). I'm glad you guys stuck with it, and are finally out of a losing situation where you can't provide the information that some of your users and audience so badly wanted, in order to protect those same people and the gaim client.
Another words - thank you! I'm sure you'll enjoy the new opportunity to move forward with everything in whatever ways you want. :D
I have been thinking about joining gaim development in some manner for awhile. It's the open source project I am most interested in (besides Firefox) and I have been following it for quite a while. Further, while I am relatively unskilled I still think I can usefully contribute.
It seems to me the area I could best contribute right now would be a new UI for Windows. It seems the developers would prefer this actually be a separate project that uses libpurple - is this correct? Are there any projects out there, as I know it is better to join an existing one than start a new one?
Finally, do the developers have any words of wisdom / recommendations for where I could get involved? That is, would it be better if I spend time helping with the current windows build or even time helping with the Pidgin code?
For what it is worth, I run Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Win XP on 4 different machines at my house, and I run IM clients on all of them regularly, including now starting to video chat (primarily for when I travel). Obviously I can do a good deal of testing.
So - any advice or areas you'd like me to get involved? My ears are open. :D
I think I can speak for the entire team when in saying that we'd love for people to write a native win32 UI and would be supportive of such an endeavour.
Thanks, datallah. I'm glad I have your support.
Does anyone have advice / recommendations, or shall I just dive right in?
My main question is understanding what I can code the interface in, or how to use it with / bind it to libpurple. I also assume this should be a separate project, similar to Adium, correct?
You can link to libpurple just as you would any other C library. You should be able to write the interface in any language that has bindings for both Glib (libpurple depends on glib, but not on GTK+) and for being linked against C libraries. I would suggest C, but C++ would certainly also work.
I would suggest you subscribe to devel@pidgin.im and commits.pidgin.im These mailing lists will help you significantly. See http://pidgin.im/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo You also want to consider tracker@pidgin.im, but that one is far more optional. Either way, you will want to register an account at developer.pidgin.im, and give it a real email address, though it does not *yet* require it.
You'll find the devel mailing list a much more fruitful place than this forum. As you have specific questions, I would suggest you turn to that list first.
We are also in the jabber conference devel@conference.pidgin.im and the irc channel #pidgin at irc.freenode.net
Done, done, and done. Thank you - I will be glad to move on from this forum myself.
/me wanders off to work, whistling
Whew ! I've been scared for a while that GAIM was dying as a project (due to the sparsity of news), but this latest news post has given me some much needed relief. Congratulations on pushing past this difficult hurdle (and to many more)!.
Yes, this forum will almost certainly be closed. I am not sure what, if anything, will replace it right now.
This forum has been largely ignored by the development team. While there have been bursts of activity by myself, deryni, datallah, and others, many and at times all posts get little or no attention from us.
The mailing lists on the other hand, get regular responces, and a high level of developer presence. Similarly, much effort was (in the past) put into maintaining the FAQ. At other times documentation was written, but in the face of a reality in which it was quite clearly not being read, the motivation to maintain & update those docs evaporated.
I suspect that, based on what I have observed of other projects, that while using a wiki/tracker combo for support in place of the forum/bug tracker combo offers some risks (there are some very confusing wikis out there), it can be a more useful and vibrant interaction. I want to try for that.
Right now we have trac, which provides an integrated wiki & tracker, up at developer.pidgin.im. It lacks a lot of information, some of which the current webpage (copied for now to www.pidgin.im) has.
First of all congratulation and good luck with the name changes ;-)
But I wanted to know if it was possible to have more information (details) about the settlement of the case.
Since every thing was quiet secretive I do not know much about the details, but I am always interested in the resolution of such case.
thanks in advance,
I believe you can peruse the appropriate mailing list (CABAL) - at least I was able to. But it might be easier to just wait until some more posts are made that provide more details. I imagine they will be coming sometime over the next few weeks, now that the uncertainty is over.