Buddy Punch is an easy-to-use, affordable employee time tracking software that helps businesses track hours, manage attendance, and streamline payroll from anywhere. With smart accountability features, automation, and real-time insights, it eliminates errors, reduces time theft, and simplifies workforce management for hourly teams.
In this episode of the SourceForge Podcast, we speak with Samara Abrahams, the head of partnerships at Buddy Punch. We discuss the challenges small and mid-sized businesses face with time tracking and workforce management. Buddy Punch offers solutions through integrations with tools like QuickBooks and ADP, serving over 10,000 organizations. The conversation highlights the importance of partnerships in the SMB market, emphasizing how trusted advisors can facilitate smoother adoption of tools like Buddy Punch. We also explore trends in time tracking, such as integration-first mindsets and operational insights. The episode concludes with insights into Buddy Punch’s referral program and how it supports businesses in modernizing their systems.
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Show Notes
Takeaways
- Many SMBs still rely on spreadsheets and paper timecards.
- Manual systems create payroll errors as teams grow.
- Coordination issues increase with scale and flexibility.
- Modern workforce tools reduce errors and save time.
- Integrations are now essential for time tracking platforms.
- Businesses want connected systems, not isolated tools.
- Remote work and flexible schedules changed tracking needs.
- Companies want labor insights, not just hour logs.
- Partners help SMBs adopt new tools more confidently.
- Trust is the foundation of successful software referrals.
- Strong partners focus on solving client problems first.
- Referral programs fail when they are too complicated.
- Simple, transparent partner programs drive more engagement.
- Fast onboarding strengthens partner confidence and trust.
- Buddy Punch positions partnerships as a growth channel.
- Growing SMBs are ideal candidates for modern time tracking.
- Manual processes become painful when they stop scaling.
- Referral success depends on communication and follow-through.
Chapters
00:01 – Intro to SMB Workforce Challenges and Partnerships
02:05 – What Buddy Punch Does for SMBs
03:37 – Where Manual Time Tracking Breaks Down
05:38 – Trends Shaping Workforce Management
07:48 – Why Integrations Matter So Much
08:45 – Why Partnerships Matter in This Market
10:25 – How Partners Improve Adoption
11:42 – Why People Recommend Buddy Punch
13:39 – Why Referral Programs Often Struggle
15:34 – What Makes a Great Partner
17:10 – How the Referral Program Works
18:14 – Why Speed and Communication Matter
19:10 – When It Makes Sense to Partner
20:33 – Where to Learn More About Buddy Punch
Transcript
Beau Hamilton (00:01.56)
Hello, everyone, and welcome to the SourceForge Podcast. I am your host, Beau Hamilton, senior editor and multimedia producer here at Sourceforge, the world’s most visited software comparison site where B2B software buyers compare and find business software solutions. All right. Now, a lot of small and mid-sized businesses, they’re still dealing with a lot of the same day-to-day workforce challenges, you know, tracking hours, building schedules, managing time off and just making sure payroll goes out right.
And a company that sits right in the middle of that world is Buddy Punch. And they help businesses tackle those headaches with all sorts of integrations for tools like QuickBooks, ADP, and others. And they serve more than 10,000 organizations. So they have a pretty direct view into the kind of operational problems employers are trying to solve every day. But today I want to look at the business through the lens of partnerships, because for a lot of consultants, accountants out there, and service providers working with SMBs, the question is not just how to solve a client problem, but who to work with when that problem overlaps with the things that I mentioned, know, payroll, time tracking and workforce management.
So today I’m joined by Sam Abrahams head of partnerships at Buddy Punch to talk about the partner side of the business. What makes a strong software partnership in the SMB market and why relationships like these are becoming a bigger part of how companies grow and serve customers. Sam, welcome to the podcast. Glad you could join us.
Sam (00:21.988)
Thanks, Beau. Thanks for having me.
Beau Hamilton (00:23.886)
Absolutely. Now, okay, long, long time listeners of the show, they might be familiar with your company because I had the chance to actually talk to one of your account executives last year to discuss some of the challenges of timekeeping inefficiencies in businesses. Now for folks who maybe have missed that episode or just need a refresher, maybe they’re hearing about Buddy Punch for the first time. Can you give a quick overview of what it is Buddy Punch does and the problem or problems you’re trying to solve for SMBs?
Sam (00:51.078)
Sure. So simply put, at least from my perspective, BuddyPunch is a simple and modern time-tracking platform for small and growing businesses. So the goal is to make time-tracking schedules and time off accurate and automated. So a lot of SMBs are still using manual time cards, manual spreadsheets, paper time cards, which tend to be error-prone and just a nightmare, especially when teams are growing.
So Buddy Punch makes it simple, they reduce mistakes and just help businesses get a clearer picture of how their teams are spending their time.
Beau Hamilton (01:28.524)
It’s pretty amazing to hear about some of the outdated tools businesses are using, especially in the timekeeping space. It makes me think back to some of my first jobs of where I was punching in with paper time cards and using the punch clocks. It seems like some businesses nowadays, they don’t have really a formal system even. Sometimes it’s just the honor system where you just text or email your hours at end of the week. Where do those systems usually start to fall apart as a company grows and scales up.
Sam (02:00.538)
Yeah, but you are completely correct. I mean, at first, a lot of companies and even till this day are still using manual spreadsheets or paper. And that’s fine, especially if teams are just a handful of people. But we’ve noticed that issues start to arrive when those teams begin to grow, when companies start juggling multiple projects or actually having to adhere to flexible schedules. And this is when it becomes easy to for mistakes to occur.
So miscalculating hours, forgetting PTO, or just basically losing track of who’s doing what. Suddenly, payroll is taking longer, errors creep in, and managers are spending a lot more time reconciliating rather than actually leading the team.
Beau Hamilton (02:46.54)
Yeah, I mean, we’re all guilty of kind of falling into that trap of being comfortable with how things have, have, you know, been done before, even if there’s a better way of doing it, you know, it’s, it’s understandable, I would say on one hand, because it’s we’re creatures of habit, but, you know, it can be problematic, especially as a company starts to scale for the reasons you mentioned. So from what you’re seeing out there right now, what trends are shaping how businesses think about time tracking or workforce management? Like what are some of the latest methods companies are utilizing or maybe the schools of thought being implemented?
Sam (05:38.82)
Well, there’s quite a few and I think it would come down to the fact that, so integration first mindset, I think that would be number one where these tools are no longer available. know, businesses want a tool that
talks to an array of sectors. So not just having to deal with isolated tools that just make it difficult to manage. So maybe tools that talk to payroll, accounting, and HR systems automatically. The next is, I think, flexibility for employees. And this was especially noticed from COVID time, but even before that. So we’ve seen a lot of employees working remotely, and as well as flexible schedules that time tracking software and or time tracking needs to accommodate. And then of course, I think the third would be related to operational insight over oversight. So companies aren’t just looking at time tracking anymore, right? They also want to see data forecast related to labor costs, staffing and productivity. So there’s quite a few. mean, I would have to narrow down to those three, but you know, it’s, there’s so many things happening within this space that we need to be cognizant of and so many changes, but I think that those two would be probably the most common trends that are occurring.
Beau Hamilton (07:07.052)
Yeah, there’s never, there’s never just one sort of pain point, it seems. But it does, it does sound like that this, this space is kind of ripe for some software innovation to help these SMBs, better keep tabs on their, their, the employees that they have working for them. You know, an app that you can use on your, your, your across your devices, iOS, Android, your phone, your browser seems like a no brainer. What are, what are some of the features businesses value highly before adopting a more modern timekeeping app like Buddy Punch? Like is it, you know, platform availability? Is it pricing? Are there benefits like being able to integrate with with other platforms already, you in use? Is it all the above?
Sam (07:48.196)
Absolutely. I’m going to what you said about integrations. Integrations are huge. So most businesses today don’t exist in a vacuum anymore. I I think that we all know this. So a time checking platform that works seamlessly with, like I said, payroll, accounting, HR software, and that saves businesses time, reduces errors, and makes adoption way smoother. This is crucial. And this is kind of what a lot of companies are looking for today. So I feel like if it doesn’t integrate, then that’s just an extra manual step for companies, which could be a bit of a deterrent and SMBs just don’t have the time for that.
Beau Hamilton (08:28.322)
Gotcha. Okay, so these these tools, they don’t just live on their own anymore, right? You know, they and they can’t, I would say, given the competition in this, this space, need to kind of be full built out solutions that play nicely with others. So integrations are huge. I’m glad you, you know, sounds like you guys really prioritize the importance there. I want to talk about the partnerships now and the value they offer. So as head of partnerships at Buddy Punch, I think this is where you focus most of your attention, of course. First of all, can you explain what are partnerships in this context and why have they become such an important part of how Buddy Punch reaches and supports businesses?
Sam (09:10.308)
partnerships allows businesses like Buddy Punch reach businesses in a trusted and personal way. So a lot of customers rely on accountants, HR advisors and payroll consultants to recommend tools. So if these advisors believe in Buddy Punch and see the value, then they would assist in having these businesses adopt the platform faster and then of course more successfully. So partnerships, you know, essentially it helps us grow and provide more value to the SMB ecosystem.
Beau Hamilton (10:09.59)
Interesting. I want to have you expand upon that a little bit more. You know, from your perspective working in this, you know, on this side of the business, what are some of the specific ways partners actually help businesses, you know, adopt the tool more successfully?
Sam (10:25.636)
So I think partners, they definitely assist in providing guidance and reassurance to these businesses. So they help the clients set up the system, integrate without tools, and then they obviously make sure that the businesses are using the platform correctly. So that personal support makes the adoption smoother, it reduces frustration, and just increases the long-term success.
Beau Hamilton (11:10.242)
Gotcha. Okay. So if it’s been if it’s been tried and true by a trusted individual, that helps kind of validate the effectiveness, right? And yeah, if a business is going to adopt a tool, that’s, you know, as important as as timekeeping, they need to have that adoption go smoothly. So obviously, there’s some real value from trusted partners who have experience using it.
Now, when someone recommends a platform like Buddy Punch to their clients, what’s usually the motivating factor or factors? What makes someone comfortable putting their name behind it?
Sam (11:42.742)
So typically, I would say it’s two things, and that is the confidence that the partner actually has in the tool. And number two would be the value it can bring their clients. So for example, they know that Buddy Punch solves a real pain point. So like simplifying time tracking or reducing payroll headaches. So they’re happy to put their name behind it. They also obviously see an opportunity to earn some additional revenue that feels natural and like not too pushy.
Beau Hamilton (12:44.834)
Yeah, it’s a reputational exchange and having a little reward on top of, you know, the review recommendation is always is always nice. I know that like they can they can grow a company can grow through word of mouth, but also, you know, through these forms of sort of testimonials and testimonials recommendations, whatever you might want to call it, they can be tricky because they’re so valuable, but the value is tied again to the reputation of the individual giving the testimony, right? And so if they’re going to give the testimony, they should feel passionate about the product. In your experience, like, why do you think so many of the referral programs maybe struggle to produce real results?
Sam (13:57.092)
As you mentioned, it’s difficult to say because of course every company has their own referral program and they have their own limitations and the way in which they see the program working. I think that a lot of the issues stem from the fact that the referral program was just too complicated. So it’s confusing and the partner actually doesn’t really see real value in even referring the tool. So if the process is too manual, that’s kind of a turn-off for a partner or if the advisor doesn’t actually even trust the product itself. So then, of course, they would then in turn not refer their clients and then nothing would happen. So without the support, partners then forget to engage. So I do believe that making the referral structure as transparent, as clear, as simple with clear incentives is the best way to ensure that the program actually succeeds, it doesn’t have a high failure rate.
Beau Hamilton (14:58.414)
Yeah, so it’s not just about the reward incentive. It’s just the complexity. That makes sense. I mean, everyone has got multiple things going on. They’re juggling different tasks. I mean, if they’re referring someone, they need to kind of be as simple and straightforward as possible and kind of flexible. So yeah, that makes sense. I’m curious about the flip side of the equation. What makes a great partner for you, like how would you validate a good partner? How do you tell the difference between someone who’s really gonna add value and someone who just maybe signs up but never refers anyone?
Sam (15:34.558)
I think from my experience, a great partner is somebody that understands their clients, number one, and they genuinely want to solve the client’s problems, right? And sees that Buddy Punch could actually be a helpful solution to eliminate that pain point that they have, right? Because that’s essentially, you know, why they are even referring or why they even recommending the Buddy Punch tool, rather than them seeing it as a way to make some commission, right? So that’s number one.
And the difference is clear. So, you know, great partners, and you said it before, they actively refer, they provide feedback, which is crucial for us to continuously streamline our approach and show that the structure is seamless and smooth for all parties involved. And they really are there to ensure that their clients succeed. Others may sign up, but they never engage or even send anybody over. yeah, I believe that that’s kind of what would make, especially in our structure, in the referral program, that Buddy Punch has a great partner.
Beau Hamilton (16:50.956)
Yeah, so much of the, you know, the problems you’re trying to solve with the partnership program is just making sure it’s not it’s straightforward. It’s not very complicated. You don’t to jump through so many hoops. How simple is it for someone to actually sign up and like refer a client to Buddy Punch?
Sam (17:10.058)
So, Beau we’ve made it very easy. Of course, there’s always room for improvement. You know, it’s the process itself is not perfect. But at the moment, so partners will get a referral link. They can then send the client our way in just a few clicks. There’s no hoops, no over complicated paperwork. So it’s designed to be very quick and intuitive. Of course, you know, maybe down the line we may do some work on it, but for now it’s pretty straightforward and pretty seamless.
Beau Hamilton (17:42.296)
Perfect, okay. Yeah, doesn’t sound too convoluted or complicated. A lot of referral programs should take notes. Now, as mentioned earlier, when a partner does send your client your way, they’re putting their reputation on the line a little bit. They’re vouching for you and your company, and if things don’t go well, they’re less likely to be asked for recommendations again, it seems. Knowing this, how important are things like speed and communication and making sure that relationship stays really strong?
Sam (18:14.85)
Yeah, I mean, it’s crucial. So when a partner sends a client our way, they’re essentially putting their reputation on the line. So responding quickly, keeping the partner in the loop, and in making the onboarding process as smooth as possible builds that trust. And that’s how the relationship stays strong. That’s how they then continue to refer more clients. So being fast, being very communicative is imperative in partnerships.
Beau Hamilton (18:46.732)
All right. Well, I think up until this point, you you’ve made a great case for the partnerships and referral program you guys have established. I hope the consultants, the accountants, the others working closely with SMBs, I hope they’re, they’re listening and taking notes. And if they are, I’m curious when, when does it make sense for them to think about partnering with a platform like Buddy Punch?
Sam (19:10.436)
There are many reasons or reasons as to why they would connect their clients to Buddy Punch. And I think it would make sense mostly when they see that their clients are growing, going back to they notice that the manual process just isn’t working anymore, that they’re struggling obviously with payroll and time tracking, or they’re just looking to automate or modernize the actual system. Then it would be a good time to actually refer to Buddy Punch.
So if an advisor sees that an SMB is frustrated, you know, like I said, with the spreadsheets, paper time cards, and, you know, and then they would then notice that the body punch tool would then come in handy. That would then help them add value to their clients and then of course, you know, that revenue as well. So, yeah, to answer your question or to wrap it up, it’s subjective. They would kind of have to make that, that judgment themselves. But as I said, there are a few sort of signals that now would be a good time. This tool could become handy to make business easier for you.
Beau Hamilton (20:19.726)
All right, well, you’ve certainly offered a lot for prospective clients and those in the industry to think about and learn more and pique their interest. Hopefully they can give the partnership program a try. For those who are interested in partnering with Buddy Punch to go to learn more about the program and just get in touch with you and your team, where should they go?
Sam (20:33.988)
Firstly, I want to say thanks very much. It was great to speak to you. If anybody is interested in learning more about the referral program at Buddy Punch, feel free to pop me an email. My email address is Sam. That’s sam@buddypunch, one word, dot com. Additionally, you can also send me a DM on the LinkedIn at Samara Sasha Abrahams on LinkedIn. And I’d be happy to answer any questions that you may have. You can also set up a quick call, meet face to face, see how we may align in a partnership so then I can also answer any questions or clarify any information over there.
Beau Hamilton (21:21.006)
Perfect. All right, sam at buddypunch.com. Go to buddypunch.com to learn more and connect with Sam over on LinkedIn. Sam, thank you so much for all the insights you shared with us. I really appreciate it. And I think this was a really valuable conversation.
Sam (21:41.976)
Thanks, Beau. Appreciate it.
Beau Hamilton (21:49.826)
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