NemoVote delivers fast, secure, and fully GDPR-compliant online voting, empowering organizations to run flawless elections in under a minute—no apps, no downloads, just one-click simplicity. Backed by unbeatable support and a money-back guarantee, NemoVote ensures every vote is accurate, anonymous, and instantly counted for total confidence in your results.
In this episode, we speak with Aaron Lesicar, the COO of NemoVote. We discuss the evolution and significance of secure online voting, particularly through the platform NemoVote, which aims to make digital voting simple, secure, and accessible. The conversation covers the challenges of traditional paper ballots, the importance of security and user-friendliness in online voting, and NemoVote’s unique features like Projector Mode and the new survey feature. Aaron emphasizes the company’s commitment to security, innovation, and customer-centric development, highlighting their efforts to adapt to various organizational needs and the competitive landscape of digital voting tools.
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Show Notes
Takeaways
- NemoVote was created due to a lack of good solutions.
- Existing solutions were either outdated or too expensive.
- The market for voting solutions has limited players.
- Intuitiveness is key to NemoVote’s differentiation.
- Comprehensive market analysis was conducted by the team.
- Competition in the market is welcomed for innovation.
- Software development needs to evolve with time.
- The company aims to improve user experience significantly.
- The voting solutions market is evolving with new entrants.
Chapters
00:00 – Introduction to Secure Online Voting
02:15 – The Inception of NemoVote
05:30 – Transition from Hardware to Online Voting
09:45 – Scaling and Adapting to Client Needs
14:00 – Challenges with Traditional Voting Methods
18:20 – Security and Privacy in Online Voting
23:10 – Differentiating NemoVote in a Competitive Market
28:00 – User-Friendly Features and Integrations
32:45 – Security Innovations and Certifications
37:30 – Upcoming Features and Developments
42:15 – Conclusion and Future Prospects
Transcript
Beau Hamilton (00:00.76)
Hello everyone. And welcome to the SourceForge Podcast. I’m your host, Beau Hamilton, senior editor and multimedia producer here at source forage, the world’s most visited software comparison site where B2B software buyers compare and find business software solutions. Okay. Now the world of secure online voting, I think is an area that’s become increasingly important over the years as more groups move their elections and decision-making processes online. And part of that shift comes from the practicality side of things, right? People are more distributed than ever before. have hybrid participation being sort of the norm. And then people expect to be able to take part from wherever they are, wherever country they are, whatever geological place they are. But there’s also a bigger component to it. And I think that is the trust component, the transparency and the need for a secure system that can handle everything from simple yes or no votes to more complex weighted or proxy ballots.
Joining me to talk more about this topic and the solution he’s come up with is Aaron Lesicar, Chief Operating Officer at Nemo Vote, a platform built to make digital voting simple, really secure and accessible from anywhere. And so in this conversation, we’ll get into how Neemavote works. We’re going to talk about why secure digital voting is gaining traction in the first place, what organizations need to think about as they move away from paper ballots, and then where Aaron thinks the industry is headed over the next few years. So a lot to discuss. Aaron, welcome to the podcast. Glad you could join us all the way from Germany.
Aaron | NemoVote (01:28.509)
Well, thank you very much for the introduction, Beau.
Beau Hamilton (01:31.054)
Absolutely. So before we get into like the, technical components of your platform, I want to start at the beginning, the inception point for listeners who might not be too familiar. Can you share a little bit about yourself and then what NemoVote is all about?
Aaron | NemoVote (01:46.985)
Sure. So I’m Aaron, I’m the CEO of NemoVote and we’ve been doing voting since 2018. And we started with, well, first only with voting because one of our founders just was part of a student organization. with the, especially with this student organization, it was a European one and they had to gather themselves once a year. And gathering for students, it’s super expensive. So they tried to find a solution to their, to do that online which basically there was none. So we’ve come up with the solution of NemoVote, where we revolutionized voting, especially now since 2020, online voting, where we’re offering the easiest secure online voting tool on the market.
Beau Hamilton (02:34.574)
Very cool. Okay, so, and then I also read and heard somewhere that you were, so you obviously started in a college campus kind of setting, but were you like literally working out of your garage? Did I read that right?
Aaron | NemoVote (02:47.539)
When we found NemoVote, we basically did it out of the garage of one of our founders and started from there. I mean, most of the part was basically developing the software, right? When we started it, we also had to, we didn’t work with online voting first, right? So we had some hardware that we had to develop and ship that to the general assembly of any student organization, which we worked first with and NGOs. And we started with that. Online voting is the better tool. Now doing only online voting and do that for NGOs, unions and universities, sports clubs all over the world.
Beau Hamilton (03:31.662)
Very cool. Yeah, it’s almost like a kind of a cliche like business origin story thing you have nowadays where you have these founders, usually college age, working in a garage sort of building the next big thing. I love it. I always love that. That kind of origin story. I don’t think it ever gets old. But when you were working at that time, you know, like you’re saying to like building the software component, the most important part, like did you have any idea the platform would scale this far? I mean, it’s hard to know where it’s going of course.
Aaron | NemoVote (04:04.713)
I we always hope for it and we had so many plans on what we planned to do. we never, especially in the start, we never thought of online voting. We thought of a solution that students needed at a time, which was perfectly doing okay, I guess, as a hardware tool that you need to ship, but it’s so much logistics. in the end, coming up with a solution that anyone can use on their smartphone is just so much simpler.
And I mean, simplicity is one of the key components for online voting because you don’t do it quite frequently. And when you do, it just has to work. So doing it on a smartphone was just a way better solution. We just stick to that as soon as we were able to do that.
Beau Hamilton (04:51.118)
Well, and then also just like working with more and more different clients and understanding their use cases kind of helps you naturally scale up, I suppose. Can you talk more about that and how has NemoVote evolved over the years, you know, as more organizations start to use it, and then you start to gather more of those unique customers and those more unique use cases?
Aaron | NemoVote (05:12.369)
Yeah. So when we came up with NemoVote, it was just a very simple voting tool where you had to be able to make a motion with a, I’m against, I’m in favor or I’m abstaining of something. And I mean, that works and it worked well for the customers, but the more customers we gathered and especially the more kind of customers we gathered. student organizations first, NGOs. Later these sports organizations, the international organizations like the World Medical Association. We learned every association has their own statute. And so every organization has their own need. And what we did with Nemavote, we’ve been able to change the way companies are able to work with us. instead of needing to change the statute, they’re just able to change the system. They just use NemoVote out of the box and change it the way they need it to be for their elections.
Beau Hamilton (06:08.462)
Gotcha. Okay, so yeah, you offer those are the kind of the core features and then they’re able to sort of manipulate and customize for their specific needs. think, I mean, that’s great. think once you generally understand the challenges in the space, or you understand the need, the challenges in the space become a lot more clearer, I think, and then you have like, you’re able to set out and tackle those challenges, those issues. But I think a lot of it comes down to the verification and just making the whole process as efficient as possible, as low of a learning curve, and then also maintaining security, things like accuracy and privacy. From your perspective, kind of going big picture, what are some of the biggest challenges with voting today and what are you trying to do to help tackle them?
Aaron | NemoVote (06:56.617)
So first, just because you mentioned it, what helped us a lot developing NemoVote was, especially in the start, we had to be at the event, right? We didn’t have the online voting tool, so we had to be there. And we always and still do live support for the customers. And when we were able to participate in the event and not only develop and just think about something that could work well, but instead taking care of that and doing it for the customers.
We’re learning where the pains are and can develop accordingly. And now regarding what are the biggest challenges with voting right now, most associations are still using paper ballots. And paper ballots are, well, at first, they’re not good really for the environment because you do a lot of paper. Yeah, you have a lot of paper in the end.
But also it’s super ineffective in time. It takes days in the end to get the results of a voting. I mean, you know that from any national election, right? So that’s that. And secondly, it’s cost. mean, paper ballots are super expensive, especially when we think about, and you mentioned that early, assemblies have changed. They used to be on side where you can just raise your hand.
I mean, that still works if you have a small organization. It gets harder as more the organization grows. I mean, as soon as you have to raise a hundred hands and count hundred hands, there’s some error that you can make. But especially like for hybrid events, you would need to send out a paper ballot by mail. And now it’s not only getting like expensive, it’s only getting, it’s taking a lot of time. So, I mean, there’s really no other solution or there’s no better solution than just going online and enable the voters from anywhere in the world to cast their ballots at the same time than the ones that are just on site.
Beau Hamilton (09:01.55)
Right. I mean, when you think about the, I mean, everyone uses the internet for various needs, social media, just communication in general. It’s revolutionized things. Obviously it’s allowed you to communicate with people all around the world, basically instantly. And so if you can apply that technology to voting, then why wouldn’t you? mean, obviously there’s like, again, that comes down to like privacy and security, which are very important not to be brushed over. But, it seems like the next kind of obvious, obvious evolutionary jump and solution for tackling some of those inefficiency problems, the pricing problems and whatnot. And yeah, because a lot of the voting is hung up on administrative things, a lot of the legacy processes.
Now, I was just thinking too, like, so you started in 2018, and then you were, it’s perfect timing because the COVID hit, you know, a couple of years later, where you really kind of ushered us forward into this digital age. Now it’s almost, It’s 2025, it’s almost 2026. I don’t want to date this episode too much. But I just bring up the timing because it’s just so important to think of the context, not only of various elections and voting needs, but also I think to come down to this kind of competition side of things too, where in the software space, I mean, there’s never just one competitor. There’s never just one company doing any one thing.
So my question for you is how does NemoVote separate itself in this 2025, 2026 world where more digital voting tools are popping up all over the place?
Aaron | NemoVote (10:41.001)
I mean, it’s a great question because you’re right. When we started with NemoVote, we came up with the idea of NemoVote because there was no good solution. Any solution that was on the market, well, it either was non-existential or it was just too expensive or too old. People developed software in the 2000s and then just didn’t update it anymore. So in 2025, 2026, of course this changed. We have a lot more competition on the market, still not really much. I mean the market just did a very comprehensive analysis of the market. And it’s basically worldwide, internationally, like 10 players at max. So we’d be happy to have a bigger market competition because competition always helps. But how we decided to differentiate ourselves on the market is with NemoVote, we learned, especially from all the live support that we did, that intuitiveness is the most important fact.
Any administrator is doing it once a year mainly. Sometimes it’s twice, sometimes it’s even four times a year, but still you don’t do it very often. Any election manager needs to be able to take care of an election and save time instead of doing it on the paper vote. Most importantly, mean, that’s one thing, that’s one person, but most importantly, all the members of the association, all the voters, right?
They need to not only be confident in casting their ballots, they also need to be fast because you have to be fast. I mean, it’s super easy. So you have to be faster than doing it on paper or by raising your hands. what we did with NemoVote is we developed in a way that any administrator can start basically from scratch and cast or prepare the first election to be cast within two minutes. And any voter can just do it within 10 seconds. And I think that’s the most, the most, the most unique way on how we did it with NemoVote.
Beau Hamilton (12:37.484)
Yeah, that’s really an important feature is just being user friendly, keeping that low barrier to entry, making sure everybody can just figure out what needs to be done when they are presented with the software. I always stress the importance of a good UI. I’m a semi-retired app reviewer. And so it’s always something I pay attention to. And it does speak for itself just with how organizations are able to, how important it is for organizations just to be able to get up and running super quickly. Can you share a little bit more specifically on some of the features you offer to help make it more user friendly?
Aaron | NemoVote (13:17.865)
Yes. So firstly, actually I saw one of your desk reviews and you saw even though you might be a semi retired, still appreciate that content. Secondly, so what we did with NemoVote, when I asked the customers on what they like most in NemoVote, the first time I asked that, I was thinking of some feature that we did very nice on the ballad level or something like that.
But when I asked that, the first answer that I received was the voter upload. And I was a bit confused because I didn’t expect that. And I’m still receiving that, like most often, whenever I ask a question, 98%, I’d say 90% of the time, I receive the answer, the voter upload is best and the most beloved feature in EmuVault. So what we did is we integrated a weight of Excel or numbers or any spreadsheet so you can upload 10,000 voters within, let’s say one minute at max, because you can just use the file that you already have, because any organization of course has a member management and know some information of their voters and can just upload them very easily.
So that’s a way that we integrated excellent numbers. And then secondly, I mean, for most associations and most assemblies, especially for hybrid events, you have any way of sharing your event, right? You do it via Teams or via Zoom or via Google Meets or any form of online meeting. And what we did is we didn’t have to develop an integration directly, but instead we planned NemoVote around that. And what we did is we enabled a feature that’s called Projector Mode where you can just share only the things that you need to share of the General Assembly. So for example,
You enable the projector mode after the election is already closed or during the election. And you only show the results because that’s the things that people need to know. And the, and the voters are well, after you voted, you want to see the results, right? So that’s the way how we made it mostly easy to integrate into the tools that are already existing.
Beau Hamilton (15:29.09)
Yeah, I’m glad you mentioned the integrations because that’s, I mean, that’s a must for a platform like yours. I assume. Cause I mean, you have with, with various voting formats and then, varying sort of authentication methods for each, you know, organizations, they likely need to get, you know, set up and running and, the least amount of like support you need to give them at least support they need to reach out and ask for is just makes the whole fish, the process a lot more efficient. So integrations are a big focus for you, I assume.
Aaron | NemoVote (16:04.009)
Well, we try to have at least the least minimum amount of integrations that are needed, but still, I mean, online voting is quite a niche thing, right? I mean, it’s something that you don’t do very frequently and it’s online voting software, especially is even more niche. So we try to integrate the software that we need so anyone can use it as easy as it is.
And I think you mentioned it earlier in regards to security with NemoVote, it’s very, very similarly. I mean, most people are using what we call a magic link. you integrate basically, you’re just simple mailings provider, go into, I don’t know, Gmail or something, click that link and you’ll be able to automatically be logged into your account. So you’re authenticating very easily while still being able to authenticate. So you can only cast your ballot once and not several times the more you click that link. So that’s one thing, but also we used to do it with username and password.
And now coming back to the integration part, what’s very now common for especially like bigger organizations and corporations is to use single sign-on, which is a way to authenticate using already the existing authentication methods within an organization.
Beau Hamilton (17:17.026)
Yeah, I’m glad that you’re focusing on the importance of security. Cause I imagine that’s probably the biggest sort of issue or you get the most feedback regarding, right? It’s like, secure is NemoVote? We obviously see the kind of global or the dialogue around election security and the issues around like voting, like tampering with votes from a government election standpoint. So I can see the security being a really important feature, especially dealing with you’re voting online, right? Talk about that some more. It keeps coming up more and more, how do you alleviate some of the concerns around security when you’re working with clients? You just mentioned those single sign-on features and just assured them.
Aaron | NemoVote (18:02.758)
I mean, that’s just part of it. Also, in all honesty, just being a German company helps because we have to focus really hard on security in Germany and to be able to work with German customers because Germany is just a country that is very, very much focused on security, especially on digital software. So of course, we need to be on several security layers, one of which is, of course, the authentication methods that I shared with you. But also, that’s like a super often upcoming question is like, how is my anonymous belt actually anonymous? So we of course had to focus that. I mean, as a German company, we always had to keep security in mind. And what we did is to still make it very easily working and fastly working as the way we come up with was.
We have two databases, basically, one of which is for the voters. And so we receive the information. A voter has cast something. and the other, the other database is the ballots. So basically what happens is when a voter costs a ballot, we receive the information, the voter and the ballot has been received. And for anonymous ballots, there’s basically no link in between. know these ballots have been received and we know these ballots have cast the votes, but we’ll never be able, even Neema vote, system will not be able to link those two anonymous boats are like seriously and completely anonymous.
Beau Hamilton (19:36.174)
Yeah. That’s the, separation of the identity and the actual ballot. think that’s, that’s a good distinction and something that many most non-technical users don’t even realize is probably impossible, but, it’s a huge trust builder, right? what about the actual, when it comes to the logs and kind of auditing, like who opened the results and when.
Aaron | NemoVote (19:59.72)
I mean, Germany was the first country to hand out a blueprint for a certification that is from the German Federal Office for Information Security. so we always, or I mean, when they handed it out, we knew what we had to do to just have that security focus in mind. So the next thing that we’re taking care of is having complete audit trails so we can, even though a vote is secure, and anonymous, we’ll be able to see when something happened and how it happened.
So an audit trail is basically a way of someone independently or the organization to still understand how the ballot came up, even though it’s anonymous. And that is one part that we’re taking care of the security. And we’re especially proud to be one of the first international or the first international online voting software tool that will be able to have this certificate from the German Federal Office. Because this is very important also on the European market. I mean, the more we are talking about big organizations, the more they’re having a look into security, especially for highly non-political, but still political organizations. I’m just coming back from the world-selling organization.
We flew there to Dublin and helped them with their General Assembly. I mean, Olympic organizations and committees are political, even though they’re non-political organizations. So security is a huge fact that we always need to consider. And with this certificate, we’re taking care that we’ll be the first one to actually hold this certificate internationally.
Beau Hamilton (21:47.81)
Very exciting. Well, and listeners, was just chatting before we hit record and Aaron was posting some, some excerpts and interviews from that conference. So definitely recommend checking that out after this episode. But I’m glad that you did mention the, the, just the fact that you are a German company, because that was one of my questions is it’s just like the is did the regulatory environment in Germany push you to aim higher on security. And it sounds like it absolutely did. And it sounds like it’s something to you, you implemented just right from the beginning from day one, right?
Aaron | NemoVote (22:24.01)
I mean, you’re right by saying regulatory environment because it’s not a law. It’s just the people and just our culture is very much gathered around security. we always knew and we still have to take care of all these factors when people are asking about online voting. So we kept that in mind and had to develop everything around security basically. Now with security, you always need to consider that security is kind of always in the way in regards to intuitiveness and easiness and user-friendliness. So we always had to take care that everything, both of these will be possible and at the highest possible level. And when it comes to votes, we really take care that we have the security layer that we need, but keeping the intuitiveness and user-friendliness as the maximum possible. Because in the end, we need to make sure that every ballot is count really need to be sure that every voter is able to cast their ballots so we can count it.
Beau Hamilton (23:28.352)
Absolutely. Yeah. I know one of the pushbacks you hear is, is the rate, the regulatory, you know, framework of around security and privacy kind of butts heads with, with founders not being able to innovate as much or whatever. That’s kind of the, the counter argument, but I, from as a, as an American, U S resident viewing all this different security, regulation in Europe, as a whole, I just, I, I’m glad that there’s a, there’s an area that a country, an area that’s focusing on this for users, right? Because it’s such an important thing.
Aaron | NemoVote (24:04.722)
And also, I mean, true, it’s harder to develop a feature if you always have to keep security in mind, but to get on that point where innovation is in a way of security, I mean, you can still innovate in regards to security. What we’re doing with the security certificate from these German federal offices, we need to innovate a complete new way to secure a ballot, keeping it anonymous while still being able to track everything. So, I mean, there’s innovation in security in that case.
Beau Hamilton (24:37.432)
Well, that’s a good point. you’re innovating the security approaches too by having these kind of tight guardrails, right?
Aaron | NemoVote (24:46.814)
Yes, I mean, still there’s still a lot of user friendliness or user features and voter features that we’d like to develop, but we still need to think about security. So that’s why I mentioned earlier, NemoVote is a way where you can just take care of your elections and your statute and implement that into NemoVote and make sure that you have the security layer that you need, but make it as user friendly as you can.
Beau Hamilton (25:11.022)
So I want to talk about some of those new features coming down the pipeline. I know I’m sure you’re constantly adding new features. You’re tweaking the UI to make it more user friendly. But are there any new features or updates that maybe you’re particularly excited about right now? Maybe you have currently in the works, rolling out soon, or looking to implement?
Aaron | NemoVote (25:30.388)
So what I do love is that one of our core developers and co-founders Florian now started a YouTube series where he’s basically starting to talk about right out of the NemoVote Lab. So every time they develop a new feature, they announce it already like way before and show like the progress on what they are doing. And what we just developed was a QR code feature that helped us actually a lot at the World Sailing General Assembly as a fallback methods.
And just in case you don’t receive the credentials or the magic link via email, well, here’s your printed QR code, scan that and there you go. You have your now paper ballot, but in a digital way. And what we’re now developing and what you’ve developed now that we’re just releasing in December for every customer is the so-called organizer feature, where we have now a third role. So I mentioned a lot about administrators and voters and basically what we still have is, you know, the election manager is taking care of the election, the administrator, and we have the voters casting their ballots. And we now have a role as the organizer, which is like an administrator allied, where especially for international organizations, we were just doing, we’ve just conducted national organization, but a huge one for the NGO.
The Belgium, it’s one of the Belgium education platforms with 700 schools, the voting is for them. And for some of the schools, of course, this is a lot of things to do. And you have 700 people basically that need to take care of the election. Of course, they can’t always have the administrative rights. So they have the organizer right where they’re just taking care of their election. So you don’t need 700 platforms. You can just have one platform and 700 organizers to take care only of their platform.
So yeah, there’s a lot of things that we are ongoing, especially the audit trails that I’ve mentioned. I’m very excited about these. A lot of features that we’re planning and all basically already finished. One more thing just to add that we call it a survey feature where you can now add multiple votes within one vote. So you have basically one ballot, but many questions on those ballots and you can just cast one ballot. And I heard that from a lot of customers. I mentioned that I talk a lot about and with customers about what we can improve. And this is a thing I think that will increase tremendously the user experience. So I’m very much excited when we can release that one.
Beau Hamilton (27:56.78)
Yeah, lots of exciting things coming down the pipeline, as I often say. The survey feature is neat and stands out to me. Now, is this like a separate sort of product offering? You offer the kind of election and you facilitate elections, voting elections online, but then are you also working on offering survey functionality for clients as well?
Aaron | NemoVote (28:20.583)
I mean, now I’m talking out of, well, in Germany you would say I’m talking out of the box. Yeah, I’m talking off script here, but to be honest, when we developed the survey feature, we developed it for a customer because they came from a surveying tool, but it didn’t work for them because you were able to click that link as many times as you want to. And you were able to cast the ballot as many times as you wished for. So we developed the survey feature within NemoVote. And we’re planning to release that now for all customers, but you’re right. I mean, this will enable us to enter a new market with serving tools. And we’re very much looking forward to that. Super exciting.
Beau Hamilton (28:58.37)
Yeah, that’s exciting. Absolutely. Well, no, because I think of the, I mean, all the different applications and the industries where you could kind of integrate with. I mean, I think of the times when I’ve been asked to fill out a survey for various reasons, like a professor of mine at the end of a term, you know, they’ll often ask for surveys. Oftentimes they’ll give you extra credit if you fill it out because it’s so valuable to them and it’s all super valuable information for developers and leaders. And so, yeah, it just seems like a, a natural fit for what you said to tackle with, with voting.
Aaron | NemoVote (29:45.324)
I think we’ll revolutionize serving in that case that you’ll still be able to use any other serving tool. But what you’ll be able to do with NemoVote voters, you’ll be able to serve just the right people and only them and only like one time. They are not able to cast their ballots several times and you’ll be able to have them a way to authenticate. You’re not just giving these surveys out to anyone. And this is the way how we’ll be able to fill out another niche in the survey market.
Beau Hamilton (30:18.2)
Definitely. That’s a good differentiator there is being able to actually validate the user and their inputs. They’re not just spamming the system and swaying the results a certain direction. Yeah. And then just gathering the feedback, like it’s one of those things you just like with the voting is you’re going to get continue to get feedback and continue to refine the process and continue to shape a better product. So I’m curious to see how that rollout continues. Where it goes from here?
Aaron | NemoVote (30:49.483)
I mean, super excited. I mean, that’s what I love, I think, about startups, because what we able to do is to develop a product around the customers. That was always super exciting because we had an idea in mind and we had to change it so many times just to make it the perfect way to fit the customers because they always know what they need, right? We don’t have to think about something new if they have all the ideas. We just need to prioritize in a way that we can help as many customers as we can, basically.
Beau Hamilton (31:20.354)
Definitely, now for customers, prospective customers interested in learning more about NemoVote, maybe they want to get in touch with you and your team. They want to learn more about this secure survey option. Where should they go? Where would you send them?
Aaron | NemoVote (31:34.899)
I mean, you already mentioned it. We’re quite active on LinkedIn, so feel free to follow NemoVote on LinkedIn. Also, nemovote.com, I mean, that’s our main website where we just present what we’re able to do, how we can help you out. And we’re also offering a live demo, so you can just test it out for free if you want to. And of course, for all of our videos, and especially the lab content that I mentioned, the customers interviews that I’m doing, feel free to visit NemoVote on YouTube or on our blog, nemovote.com/blog.
Beau Hamilton (32:06.222)
Perfect. All right, linkedin, nemavote.com. You got YouTube. Check out the live demo. Great stuff. Really think you guys are in a really exciting kind of industry. I think the rise of secure voting is really just kind of getting started and platforms that focus on the simplicity, the user friendliness, the security like yours are going to lead the charge. so it’s exciting to see where you guys are headed. Aaron, I appreciate all the insights you shared around this topic.
Aaron | NemoVote (32:35.551)
I appreciate your time. Thanks for asking. Was, was a lot of fun. So thanks for that and talk to you soon.
Beau Hamilton (32:42.272)
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