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5 Player: Beat/Sync Playing Mode - ID: 1885824
Last Update: Comment added ( ple-x-us )

In earlier Versions of OpenTZT the settings Bx1, Bx2, Bx4, Bx8 ... was
static which means one specific key for a specific speed. in newer versions
(1.5 RC2) of TZT these settings depends on the length of the playing clip.
It would be very usefull to have a switch in TZT.ini to set the old static
behavier or the new clip based. The new version is really useless because
you never know what speed you get.

Example: When the playing clip is short (about 2-6 seconds) and you press
[Rightshift + 1] key you get a speed setting of Bx16. When the playing clip
is a long one (about 8-20 second) and you press [Rightshift + 1] key you
get a speed setting of Bx128 allthough you pressed the same key!

And there is a big bug in the new version:
When you have a short clip playing (2-4 seconds) and press [Rightshift + 1]
the clip plays at Bx16 when you now speed up the clip [Rightshift +
2],[Rightshift + 3]... and so on after reaching speed Bx1 the next key
stops playing the clip.

Working with Beat/Sync playing modes is (and always was) one of the key
features of OpenTZT but this new behavior feels totally buggy until you
understand what's really going on. And after understanding how it works it
simply make no sense.

Let me explain: All this only make sense for the reason you have really
long clips (about 30 second and longer) when you now want to play them in
Beat/Sync Mode in the old static version of OpenTZT you had the problem
that these long clips played a way to fast and there was no way to play
them slower in Beat/Sync mode but in Free/Nosync Mode is was no problem.
But playing long clips in Beat/Sync mode doesn't make sense at all because
the benefits of the Beat/Sync mode is that the clip is synced to the tapped
BPM but with a clip of 30 seconds nobody recognise that sync!
But with short clips of 2-8 seconds it is importand that the clip loops
perfectly to the beat!
And when doing live visuals it's really important to quickly put a new clip
to the player and with on key press set it's best fitting speed (Bx8 or
what ever) but with this new "length of clip based" version you always have
to find the key which correspond to the speed (Bx8 or what ever) you
actually wants.

Absolut useless!

Please I want a switch in tzt.ini for both versions the old (very usefull
and fast and precise) and the useless new for everyone who mabe like it...


Felix Dames ( vjvlix ) - 2008-02-03 18:32

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Date: 2009-11-20 16:45
Sender: ple-x-usProject Admin

I noticed that the whole speed / sync code looks odd while I starten
cleaning the code.
It's on the "Cleanup-ToDo" list, and could be done with the next release.


Date: 2008-02-08 23:28
Sender: esoticProject Admin


After looking at the code it appears the beatsync set speed has been like
this for over 2 years. Since I'm not really dedicated to this project
anymore, and we're discussing functional differences (not really a bug) I
doubt I'll be able to devote any more time to this. If someone else would
like to look at updating this code I can point them in the right direction.


Date: 2008-02-05 10:22
Sender: vjmorphProject AdminAccepting Donations


Also do not post directly into the tracker, please post in the forum and
it will be discussed and added to the tracker in due course. Also please
remember that Otzt is being retired.


Date: 2008-02-04 09:53
Sender: vjmorphProject AdminAccepting Donations


To be honesty its not a function I really use so I'll ask Esotic why it
was changed and if we can change it back


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