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Date: 2006-09-13 20:26 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Why use javascript?
Date: 2006-06-13 12:29 Sender: burley Logged In: YES user_id=597273 Greetings, This change has been reverted, and is live on the site now. So, it shouldn't affect you any longer. If you have further issues that you wish to discuss with us, please submit your own ticket. We cannot handle everybody's individual issues on one ticket. Thank you, David Burley Quality of Service Analyst, SourceForge.net
Date: 2006-06-12 22:07 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please change back to regular link. Sometimes I use lynx without javascript support and cannot download now or use wget
Date: 2006-06-12 20:20 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please change this back to the old method. It is tough on us elinks users!
Date: 2006-06-12 17:57 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Yes. Please!!
Date: 2006-06-12 17:42 Sender: bullvi Logged In: YES user_id=469265 Whoever thought up this moronic method should have... nevermind.. This is retarded and needs to be fixed.
Date: 2006-06-12 14:26 Sender: burley Logged In: YES user_id=597273 Greetings, This change has been reverted, and is live on the site now. So, it shouldn't affect you any longer. If you have further issues that you wish to discuss with us, please submit your own ticket. We cannot handle everybody's individual issues on one ticket. Thank you, David Burley Quality of Service Analyst, SourceForge.net
Date: 2006-06-12 11:37 Sender: burley Logged In: YES user_id=597273 Greetings, It'll get reverted later today, in the mean time, just click on the javascript link, and the following page will have the URL you can copy/paste. Thank you, David Burley Quality of Service Analyst, SourceForge.net
Date: 2006-06-12 05:31 Sender: nata2 Logged In: YES user_id=49943 This modification is making installing and using open-source software much more difficult. Its a bummer - because open-source needs all the help it can get - and this doesn't make it any easier. Please fix this.
Date: 2006-06-12 04:59 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO seconded... And while you are at it, if you could restore ftp services as well - a lot of people are behind firewalls with redirecting proxies - which renders things like wget over http useless. If you could open up a server or two (ftp1.sourceforge.net, ftp2.sourceforge.net, etc.) and make it anonymously available, it would be most appreciated..
Date: 2006-06-12 04:49 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Echo I don't use my browser to d/l files, and this just makes it that much more irritating to do so!
Date: 2006-06-12 04:48 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I also agree, there must be other ways you could work this out, rather than cripple the very function that this website is based around.
Date: 2006-06-12 04:47 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I also agree, there must be other ways you could work this out, rather than cripple the very function that this website is based around.
Date: 2006-06-12 04:47 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I also agree, there must be other ways you could work this out, rather than cripple the very function that this website is based around.
Date: 2006-06-12 04:44 Sender: phr34ky Logged In: YES user_id=711063 As a fellow wgetter, I move for this javascript business to be banished from the realm of sf. Seriously, how the hell am I meant to tell a remote SSH client to download something?
Date: 2006-06-12 04:16 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I agree with this people, I like to download a lot of stuff from your site and with this is more difficult for me since, now I have to download it to my local computer and then to the server. That's more work for me. :(
Date: 2006-06-12 03:13 Sender: sickdm Logged In: YES user_id=122231 Given that a very large % of SF.net's users download files onto Linux/etc systems using utilities like wget, the new javascript change has only made this more difficult. I don't have a problem looking at an ad banner when I try to download an OSS package. However I would appreciate an easier way to copy and paste the download link.
Date: 2006-06-12 03:04 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO This is going to make it difficult for those without javascript capable browsers and those who use assistive devices to surf the web. Sourceforge needs to take this seriously and should be reverted to the original system ASAP.
Date: 2006-06-12 02:47 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please make it easy to download files from "wget" and similar tools. Please understand that it may be necessary to create a "fork" of sourceforge if it ceases to be the Open Source enabling site that it's famous for. If it becomes too commercial, it will be limited to the commercial web like the telecoms that are attempting to charge for access. When the grass-roots global mesh is completely cut-over that doesn't require the telecoms, sourceforge will be left behind. Technology has already moved on.
Date: 2006-06-12 02:19 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Guys: while it is important to express your outrage, realize that SF has no intention of changing this. This was not done by accident or as a result of sloppy coding. They CHOSE to do this. The only question left is what will you choose to do.
Date: 2006-06-12 01:31 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Echo I don't use my browser to d/l files, and this just makes it that much more irritating to do so!
Date: 2006-06-12 01:12 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO why not have it like it was.. or giving us a direct link at once.. why make it harder than nessecery?
Date: 2006-06-12 01:11 Sender: anderiv Logged In: YES user_id=125319 I echo the comments of the many people who have posted so far. This change in link behavior makes life much more difficult for those of us that live in a terminal, command-line world. Please change the link behavior back to the way it has been for many years. Thank you.
Date: 2006-06-12 01:01 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I agree
Date: 2006-06-12 00:27 Sender: rharman Logged In: YES user_id=389188 Seconded. Please restore the original non-javascript link for the final download URL. Software on SourceForge is not often downloaded to the machine browsing to SourceForge, instead the link is curl/wget/lynx -source'd to a system that has no GUI for security.
Date: 2006-06-11 23:20 Sender: ibnkuldun Logged In: YES user_id=1163130 Please dump the Javascript. This is not cool.
Date: 2006-06-11 23:20 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please don't make downloading any harder than it needs to be. It is already pretty bad.
Date: 2006-06-11 22:53 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Most of my Sourceforge downloads are done through terminal windows. This change is very bad. Please change this back
Date: 2006-06-11 22:14 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I agree with all the other posts, this was a completely unnecessary change that only hurts the open source community - the download-system was already an annoying experience as it was.
Date: 2006-06-11 21:29 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Yeah, make this go away,
Date: 2006-06-11 21:26 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Ditto all of the other posts, please revert!
Date: 2006-06-11 20:44 Sender: mononexo Logged In: YES user_id=1179308 Please change this back.
Date: 2006-06-11 19:48 Sender: asoto Logged In: YES user_id=565261 direct links please. Many times, need to get the link for a direct download from a server using wget. Thanks
Date: 2006-06-11 19:40 Sender: jonboykayaks Logged In: YES user_id=1538045 The new way is horrible. I use to get the direct download link and then use a program like wget to get it on my server but now I am forced to download it to my local desktop and then upload it to my server. That is a complete waste of time.
Date: 2006-06-11 19:37 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO The new way is horrible. I use to get the direct download link and then use a program like wget to get it on my server but now I am forced to download it to my local desktop and then upload it to my server. That is a complete waste of time.
Date: 2006-06-11 19:33 Sender: netzdamon Logged In: YES user_id=725086 Another vote to change it back. I am always pasting links to a remote server.
Date: 2006-06-11 19:25 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO this is annoying, please change this
Date: 2006-06-11 19:23 Sender: l33tissw00t Logged In: YES user_id=1032901 Please revert.
Date: 2006-06-11 19:13 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Direct links please. Thanks!
Date: 2006-06-11 19:09 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO The easier it is to find the software, the better. Direct download links please.
Date: 2006-06-11 19:08 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO yeah, please change this back.
Date: 2006-06-11 18:18 Sender: paulproteus Logged In: YES user_id=142687 I simply would like to agree with the oft-stated sentiment that this frustrates users who liked to copy the download URL to pass it to wget. That's what I used to do. Now it's a pain to download from SourceForge. This alternative: <a href="http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jscalendar/jscalendar-1.0.zip" onclick="document.dlform.submit(); return false;">http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jscalendar/jscalendar-1.0.zip</a> would be much nicer.
Date: 2006-06-11 17:42 Sender: clparker Logged In: YES user_id=489508 please revert back to the old way. It was very nice when you were wanting to download it onto a machine directly with wget.
Date: 2006-06-11 17:30 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO By making your site so confusing, you are hurting open source.
Date: 2006-06-11 17:30 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO By making you site so confusing, you are hurting open source.
Date: 2006-06-11 17:24 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO What's wrong with you people?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're staring at a link that says http://..... which points directly to the file! You CAN copy that link and it works. It doesn't require JS, it's a plain URL printed in big blue letters right on the page. Use your eyes.
Date: 2006-06-11 17:19 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please revert.
Date: 2006-06-11 17:11 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO This is wrong. Javascript does NOT nedd to be there.
Date: 2006-06-11 17:10 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO this change makes it almost impossible to download software to servers using lynx or w3m, which is the only way I download most of this software. Please fix this.
Date: 2006-06-11 17:04 Sender: jeremy_harmon Logged In: YES user_id=1402537 Please remove the JavaScript!
Date: 2006-06-11 16:33 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please revert this change. It makes it very tedious to download from SF.
Date: 2006-06-11 16:32 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please revert
Date: 2006-06-11 16:20 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Like the countless commenters above, I find this change arbitrary and pathetic. To whoever designed this piece of code, here is how to implement such a (mis-)feature properly. Not: <a href="javascript:document.dlform.submit()">http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jscalendar/jscalendar-1.0.zip</a> But: <a href="http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jscalendar/jscalendar-1.0.zip" onclick="document.dlform.submit(); return false;">http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jscalendar/jscalendar-1.0.zip</a> For those browsers where javascript is available and enabled, they will execute the onclick handler. For those which are not, or for much of the people downloading from SF, who just need to right-click and copy, it will STILL WORK!
Date: 2006-06-11 15:52 Sender: gaheris Logged In: YES user_id=1395462 I agree, this is a huge problem for most of us. You don't have to use JS in such a way to do whatever you want to achieve.
Date: 2006-06-11 15:41 Sender: iamsure Logged In: YES user_id=528997 I have numerous projects hosted here, I've donated and subscribed. I've used SourceForge for several years, and advocated its use almost as long. But this change is entirely negative for the end-users. It breaks wget compatibility, it forces the user to take an extra step to get to the information they need, it prevents non-js browsers from downloading.. Revert this change. Please. You will definitely not receive further funding from me if you don't.
Date: 2006-06-11 14:48 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO This is a stupid change, it adds yet another problem for javascript disabled browsers and using external download managers!!
Date: 2006-06-11 14:39 Sender: worthawholebean Logged In: YES user_id=1140311 I agree.
Date: 2006-06-11 14:14 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO yes, is kinda annoying... also if, like me, have disable javascripts
Date: 2006-06-11 14:08 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I don't have a login but still use sourceforge on occasion. Please put it back to the way it was.
Date: 2006-06-11 14:06 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO It's terrible. Please revert.
Date: 2006-06-11 13:56 Sender: matt2k Logged In: YES user_id=196144 Most of the recent changes to the site have been very positive, but this one is no good. Please change it back.
Date: 2006-06-11 13:52 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Yet another wgetter. Please go back to the way it was. I can't understand the reasoning behind forcing JavaScript. It's already been mentioned, but that makes it not work at all with links/lynx/noscript, etc. It also makes it harder to copy/paste and use wget. Are you TRYING to shut out the linux community?
Date: 2006-06-11 13:48 Sender: thomastuttle Logged In: YES user_id=1085662 I am YAJLH - Yet Another JavaScript Link Hater. I have always considered tricks like hidden form submissions to be nasty artifacts of bad web site management systems or webmasters who want to make complicated, obtuse systems. I've always liked how simple Sourceforge is, and that JavaScript was used only for enhancements, not functionality. Please keep it the way it was!
Date: 2006-06-11 13:48 Sender: fibr3 Logged In: YES user_id=1501065 i think adding an additional 'copy link' feature would make more sense; this could also be used to intercept and log download data (the reason i assume javascript has been added), but make it easier for people using a CLI to download - it would avoid situations where people simply copy the link and download using wget or similar and bypass the system (perhaps add a unique download id or something to the url). best of both worlds...
Date: 2006-06-11 13:47 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please revert
Date: 2006-06-11 13:23 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Clicking through the mirror-selection links and then cutting and pasting the resulting URL after "wget" or "lwp-download" at the shell prompt on the machines that I manage is also how I usually grab these files. Please reverse your recent change, Sourceforge. You need to understand that not everyone develops on machines that they're running GUI interfaces + web browsers on!
Date: 2006-06-11 13:21 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Change it back please - it was way better the way it was before :(
Date: 2006-06-11 13:20 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO This is a good way to drive people away from projects using sourceforge
Date: 2006-06-11 13:20 Sender: post_scriptum Logged In: YES user_id=1482321 I agree it should be reversed.
Date: 2006-06-11 13:19 Sender: scotsnyder Logged In: YES user_id=1191287 I also agree with the removal of JS. And I also use wget to get things done on servers.
Date: 2006-06-11 13:04 Sender: rosshend Logged In: YES user_id=1505510 I also would like this changed. It is bad web design and needs to be repaired.
Date: 2006-06-11 13:03 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Pretty PLEASE !
Date: 2006-06-11 12:59 Sender: tequanne Logged In: YES user_id=1297089 REMOVE JAVASCRIPT! I download files from SF by using pclip\|xargs wget (pass clipboard as an argument to wget), and wget doens't speak in JS.
Date: 2006-06-11 12:47 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please don't use this feature it's highly annoying. Simply put - grrrrrrrrr
Date: 2006-06-11 12:41 Sender: phatmonkey Logged In: YES user_id=1005618 ^ What they said. This is exceedingly annoying!
Date: 2006-06-11 12:27 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please renable wget!
Date: 2006-06-11 12:19 Sender: dingletec Logged In: YES user_id=192504 Wget compatibility a Must! Like many others here, I work on my servers from whereever I am. Downloading the file locally, then scp'ing it to a server takes a huge amount of time compared to the couple of seconds on the server's high speed connection. Please listen to your users and find another way to accomplish what you are doing.
Date: 2006-06-11 12:15 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO this is bull shit
Date: 2006-06-11 12:07 Sender: rhnet Logged In: YES user_id=1294055 I agree, no javascript. By forcing users to have a javascript compliant browser is not the opensource way.
Date: 2006-06-11 12:05 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO This is a pain, please revert.
Date: 2006-06-11 12:02 Sender: progster Logged In: YES user_id=843420 another wget'er here :-). In any case, please provide a direct link next to the javascript one... it would definitly make things easier for us!
Date: 2006-06-11 12:00 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO the JS thing is bullshit!
Date: 2006-06-11 11:58 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO blecchy thing, that javascript. We all use firefox w/Adblock and NoScript. Please change it back! Please?
Date: 2006-06-11 11:54 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please revert immediately. Thank you.
Date: 2006-06-11 11:33 Sender: endelwar Logged In: YES user_id=44577 I only use text based browser on my remote servers, and they don't speak JS, so please revert to the direct link.
Date: 2006-06-11 11:31 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Thanks sourceforge for a great site for hosting projects. I've been using this site for years and theres always more projects to find than there is time to find them in ;) But with regards to this latest change .... Please revert back if possible, this is a really annoying change to many of us, I appreciate we can still do what we need, as it is possible to see the link, but please, for all our convenience change it back so we can right click and copy link location ..... pleasseeee ! remember people, be chilled, be calm, and dont blow things up :)
Date: 2006-06-11 11:30 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Thanks sourceforge for a great site for hosting projects. I've been using this site for years and theres always more projects to find than there is time to find them in ;) But with regards to this latest change .... Please revert back if possible, this is a really annoying change to many of us, I appreciate we can still do what we need, as it is possible to see the link, but please, for all our convenience change it back so we can right click and copy link location ..... pleasseeee ! remember people, be chilled, be calm, and dont blow things up :)
Date: 2006-06-11 11:24 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I personally have recommended other developers to avoid SF for exactly this reason: they can change the method of hosting and access at any time, without rhyme or reason. SF probably lost one or two accounts; not a big deal, but the readers of this thread can make a difference in bulk.
Date: 2006-06-11 11:22 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO plz, change it back to regular URL's. wget doesn't work with javascript. thx
Date: 2006-06-11 11:19 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO PLEASE change it back. Horrible change. Can no longer download files to my remote server, thanks.
Date: 2006-06-11 11:14 Sender: opless Logged In: YES user_id=35821 Javascript download links? WTF?! Please remove, for the sanity of sysadmins everywhere!
Date: 2006-06-11 11:11 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO So! Whats the idea? Why break something that was working so very well already...? Change it back guys.
Date: 2006-06-11 11:06 Sender: iranzop Logged In: YES user_id=573760 This change prevents me from using lynx or wget on my servers to get the software from you, it was not a good idea
Date: 2006-06-11 11:03 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Downloading to my colo server just got harder. Please back out the javascript link.
Date: 2006-06-11 10:54 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO This is bad! Stop!
Date: 2006-06-11 10:52 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO WTF! Revert this right now you idiots, nobody use javascript, we all use wget.
Date: 2006-06-11 10:50 Sender: pornel Logged In: YES user_id=269973 The no-JS version with button is useless as well - I can't copy link. In JS version context-menu is useless. Previous download UI was really bad, that one is #$%@$^.
Date: 2006-06-11 10:50 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please, do change it. All knowledgeable techise (and site admins) that reguolarly consider sourceforge a most vaulable resource wil be most thankful and supportive of sf.net if you ease the means of downloading the files linked by you in the mirrors. Best regards from spain.
Date: 2006-06-11 10:27 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please revert to allow shell / lynx / wget / JavaScript disabled browser users use SF again.
Date: 2006-06-11 10:27 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Sucks. Remove the JS shlep. Thanks.
Date: 2006-06-11 10:23 Sender: ivanlucas Logged In: YES user_id=1456679 This is very inconvenient, I thought the delay thing was annoying enough, but javascript... yuck. 99 times out of 100 I just need a URL for wget, don't need any of your fancy javascript stuff.. Please please consider reverting this change.
Date: 2006-06-11 10:20 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Bad change.
Date: 2006-06-11 10:19 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Unnecessary and painful change: could you please revert to the old download link or at least find a non-javascript solution?
Date: 2006-06-11 10:14 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO This change is a pain - it's a pain to paste the link into an ssh session on a remote server to wget the file. Please rever this change.
Date: 2006-06-11 10:11 Sender: xan- Logged In: YES user_id=1412127 I would also like this change to be reversed, I use wget a lot! Why this sudden change?
Date: 2006-06-11 10:11 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please -- I like the way Source Forge used to be. I like to use a download manager (StarDownloader) because my connection sucks, it's slow and cuts out, and FireFox is awful at resuming downloads. But with this new JavaScript document running on your page, I have to cross my fingers everytime I download something from SourceForge, hoping my connection won't die. But it does. And I have to start over. So, please, stop sucking and go back to being awesome.
Date: 2006-06-11 10:06 Sender: bgrolleman Logged In: YES user_id=1414552 This is a really bad change, 99% of the time I just want the url and wget it, sometimes remote, sometimes a local terminal. This change costs time on my side, I dread the day I need something and my only interface is a shell in a co-location. Last time I checked, this was sourceforge.net and not msdn!
Date: 2006-06-11 10:04 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please reverse this change. There has to be a better way of doing this.
Date: 2006-06-11 09:50 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I dont like this it seems to be unpopular with people who know what they are talking about!
Date: 2006-06-11 09:50 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please revert back - the new link is horrible. Not everyone use Windows and IE!
Date: 2006-06-11 09:49 Sender: strawp Logged In: YES user_id=1436350 Yes, I'm suprised at this. Considering the number of projects hosted on SF that you'd want to just copy the URL from and run the download on a remote machine, it seems like a very bad decision, aside from the fact that use of javascript in href attributes erks the hell out of me and that "javascript:" is not a valid URI.
Date: 2006-06-11 09:45 Sender: emiliano Logged In: YES user_id=13975 I agree with the general sentiment here -- please restore the previous behaviour!
Date: 2006-06-11 09:43 Sender: flatworm Logged In: YES user_id=1350198 Besides it broke wget downoalds, I used to copy the target URL (using my browser's "Copy Link Location" action) into another target and then replace the mirror in the URL with my nearest one (citkit). That's now requires tricky drag-selection-over-then-copy-text action. It's very inconvenient and. Please, revert it back to the behaviour that had been the standard for years!
Date: 2006-06-11 09:36 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please go back to the other form of downloading. It was particularly useful for those of us who have dialup connections when we need to download a large file. We were able to paste the url into our download managers so that if it were interrupted we could resume later. Most browser downloaders won't/don't resume.
Date: 2006-06-11 09:31 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO breaks my download manager, grr...
Date: 2006-06-11 09:30 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please go back to the other form of downloading. It was particularly useful for those of us who have dialup connections when we need to download a large file. We were able to paste the url into our download managers so that if it were interrupted we could resume later. Most browser downloaders won't/don't resume.
Date: 2006-06-11 09:13 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO what everyone said
Date: 2006-06-11 09:13 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Yet another voice in the chorus - please, have mercy on the wgetters!
Date: 2006-06-11 08:58 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO The javascript makes impossible to use wget from the terminal.
Date: 2006-06-11 08:51 Sender: kdkirsch Logged In: YES user_id=573277 I concur. This change should be made to improve the overall usefullness of the site.
Date: 2006-06-11 08:45 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Yes, please fix this. :)
Date: 2006-06-11 08:45 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Yes please reverse this. I do not have Java enabled and this is a big hassle for me.
Date: 2006-06-11 08:40 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Agreed, having the easily URL avilable is necessary.
Date: 2006-06-11 08:40 Sender: daxumaming Logged In: YES user_id=1283509 This change has caused a lot of inconvenience. Not everyone's fond of what SourceForge is trying to accomplish. Please take it out.
Date: 2006-06-11 08:37 Sender: semba Logged In: YES user_id=109456 Agree on the new functionality not being practical. Am no longer able to copy the download URL, and use wget to download the required file to a server. Please reverse this change, or add a link from which the download URL can be copied from.
Date: 2006-06-11 08:36 Sender: bghose Logged In: YES user_id=1137207 I don't understand the reason behind doing such a thing. What's the point in using JavaScript for this? Please revert it back to the way it was. Thanks, G0SUB
Date: 2006-06-11 08:33 Sender: semba Logged In: YES user_id=109456 Agree on the new functionality not being practical. Am no longer able to copy the download URL, and use wget to download the required file to a server. Please reverse this change, or add a link from which the download URL can be copied from.
Date: 2006-06-11 08:30 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO PLEASE!!!
Date: 2006-06-11 08:25 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO agreed
Date: 2006-06-11 08:20 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO The only javascript enabled boxes I have access to are win32. I need the actual urls to cut/paste into wget command lines at the other end of an ssh session with an actual nix box. If you take away the urls, I cannot* use sourceforge hosted projects, period. Please reverse the javascript thing.
Date: 2006-06-11 08:19 Sender: mieses Logged In: YES user_id=958683 this change does not help users. has sf peaked?
Date: 2006-06-11 08:12 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Yes, please, give us a javascript-free alternative. It is much easier to use when working from a terminal.
Date: 2006-06-11 08:11 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO ALSO AGREEEED!
Date: 2006-06-11 08:07 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO agree.
Date: 2006-06-11 08:04 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO agreed
Date: 2006-06-11 07:57 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO no javascript please, need it for wget.
Date: 2006-06-11 07:56 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO agreed
Date: 2006-06-11 07:50 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO yupp - breaks konquerors URL dragging... really bad idea IMHO
Date: 2006-06-11 07:49 Sender: wenzi Logged In: YES user_id=3881 For users of wget, this is not a good move. At least have a direct ( non javascript ) link.
Date: 2006-06-11 07:49 Sender: wenzi Logged In: YES user_id=3881 For users of wget, this is not a good move. At least have a direct ( non javascript ) link.
Date: 2006-06-11 07:47 Sender: ismell Logged In: YES user_id=1448084 Javascript downloads are the worst.
Date: 2006-06-11 07:45 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO my browser does not support javascript, please change
Date: 2006-06-11 07:37 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please revert to showing the link on the download page. Its very useful for system admins who need to copy/paste links into wget on their linux boxes.
Date: 2006-06-11 07:29 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO So many of us use the "copy link" feature to download through wget or similar. Now we have to copy/paste out of the web page, which takes more time, is annoying, breaks scripts, and is less accurate. Please change it back. thanks.
Date: 2006-06-11 07:28 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO As a windows desktop user who often "manually" copies links into my linux boxes, this poses a great problem for me. Please return to the old method where I could simply type in the link listed at the top of the page and download with curl or wget. Thanks@
Date: 2006-06-11 07:28 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO /sign, no javascript please.
Date: 2006-06-11 07:18 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO ughhhh no javascript please!
Date: 2006-06-11 07:17 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I completely agree, this is beyond stupid and hurts the entire development/open source community...you are essentially forcing us to use a stupid browser with javascript support to download files...do you guys even know there is Unix/Linux out there where better methods of downloading is available and used!!!! Don't be as stupid as this apparently makes you.
Date: 2006-06-11 07:13 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Breaking the use of wget in this fashion is not appreciated!
Date: 2006-06-11 07:11 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO grrr. This made a frustrating procedure even more frustrating. Sounds like something my boss would do.
Date: 2006-06-11 07:07 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO This change takes a mildly cumbersome process and makes it absolutely teeth-grindingly frustrated. Please change it back?
Date: 2006-06-11 07:03 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I wholeheartedly agree. I'm less interested in using sourceforge now that I can't use wget to extract the URL. This change has created a huge inconvenience for me as I always browse the internet on my desktop and then download the content using wget on my dev/production machine. Please revert! Thanks, Tommy.
Date: 2006-06-11 06:55 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I agree.
Date: 2006-06-11 06:53 Sender: britefury Logged In: YES user_id=22803 Please revert to the old system, cheers. :-)
Date: 2006-06-11 06:49 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please revert this change as soon as possible.
Date: 2006-06-11 06:33 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please revert this change as soon as possible.
Date: 2006-06-11 06:33 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO seconded... And while you are at it, if you could restore ftp services as well - a lot of people are behind firewalls with redirecting proxies - which renders things like wget over http useless. If you could open up a server or two (ftp1.sourceforge.net, ftp2.sourceforge.net, etc.) and make it anonymously available, it would be most appreciated..
Date: 2006-06-11 06:28 Sender: juvenall Logged In: YES user_id=1327906 I'm with everyone else here. This change is bad for both the independent developer and end users alike. Please, please revert back to a direct link.
Date: 2006-06-11 06:27 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please change it back to the old way, it was much more convinent. Thank you.
Date: 2006-06-11 06:22 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please change this back, wget is way to useful, and this makes it almost impossible to use.
Date: 2006-06-11 06:19 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO ditto. remove this feature
Date: 2006-06-11 06:17 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Yeah this sucks.
Date: 2006-06-11 06:14 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Not using any scripting fuction along the lines of Java or ActiveX is a better idea than forcing people to use this. Users with Windows are better off DISABLING these "features" entirely due to things some ad companies like to put in their ads that then get on our machines. As much as Windows gets patched it's the same flaw with a new door. Please revert to the older system.
Date: 2006-06-11 06:13 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO ditto
Date: 2006-06-11 06:11 Sender: xaxxon Logged In: YES user_id=137837 Please change it back.
Date: 2006-06-11 06:07 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO We're all adults here, and mostly pretty technical ones at that. Don't treat us like the reverse. Thanks.
Date: 2006-06-11 06:02 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I completely agree. When I updated programs like coppermine, I like to wget the latest tarball/zip directly to the server I am deploying to then work with it via SSH. Having to search source for the URL or worst download it locally then upload it is a waste of time and bandwidth. Its bad enough that sourceforge abandoned F/OSS ideals by going closed source but making access to true F/OSS projects harder certainly doesn't help matters.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:59 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Exactly, make it more friendly - not less friendly! Suppose SF.net developers tested this in their Beta copy of IE7. Goons!
Date: 2006-06-11 05:57 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please change this back... this serves no purpose other than to piss people off. Maybe do something constructive like making the download system more user friendly? Thanks.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:55 Sender: viksit Logged In: YES user_id=600503 I agree. wgetting the final mirror URL is the most efficient way to download files from SF, especially when SSHd to remote servers. -1 for the new system. ++1 for the old one!
Date: 2006-06-11 05:55 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Who authorised this change? This change is stupid. It actually causes greater load no your servers to render the freaking page - dipshits!
Date: 2006-06-11 05:52 Sender: peterwooley Logged In: YES user_id=1510307 This seems like an odd choice, and I would at least like to hear a reason for why this has been done. As far as I've looked, I've not found a reason. I'd enjoy a switch back to the old direct way, if at all possible. Thanks!
Date: 2006-06-11 05:45 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO No wonder I couldn't download from sourceforge anymore? Please turn this useless feature off.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:43 Sender: rickyzhou Logged In: YES user_id=985995 As countless others have stated, I block javascript (and I normally copy the link and use wget anyway). I cannot think of a single valid reason that would force the implementation of this annoyance.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:42 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO This really sucks - too many hoops means I will get my binaries from somewhere else.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:40 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO This is a terribly inconvenient change and makes the download system even more convoluted and difficult to use.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:38 Sender: j_aroche Logged In: YES user_id=583648 Please SF, rollback this change!!!
Date: 2006-06-11 05:38 Sender: bjoeboo Logged In: YES user_id=1352980 Our company policy prohibits installing java on servers (or anything else not related to the essential function of the server). Now I have to use multiple machines to download a file from sourceforge. lame. lame. lame. Shame on you sourceforge!
Date: 2006-06-11 05:35 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please revert back to old behavior. THanks.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:34 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please correct this obvious mistake. This inhibits the use of the site even more.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:32 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Hi there, can you please change the download link back to the actual link. E.g. instead of javascript:document.dlform.submit() please point the link to the actual file again - as it has been for the last couple of years. That would make it much easier to copy the link to the clipboard and from there to a remote server.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:31 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO What brainiac thought this was a good idea?
Date: 2006-06-11 05:31 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Absolutely ridiculous change. Please change it back pronto.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:31 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I must say that this is the single stupidest change made by SF. Please reinstate the old system...
Date: 2006-06-11 05:31 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Yeah, this isn't the greatest change, i wouldnt mind if you changed it back...
Date: 2006-06-11 05:30 Sender: guspaz Logged In: YES user_id=840046 This new "feature" makes downloading things with wget very difficult. Please revert this change.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:30 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Good job, retards.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:27 Sender: nautical9 Logged In: YES user_id=749031 Completely agree, please change it back. I use both "Copy Link Location" and lynx to download files to a remote linux server all the time, and this makes it even harder than it was. If you don't want to use a 302 redirect page as the in-between tracker, as suggested above, why not use an "onclick" javascript handler, but still leave the href pointing directly to the file?
Date: 2006-06-11 05:26 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Why complicate things and now make it even more annoying for people to enjoy this. Your smart, if you need to verify downloads and thwart bots, use captcha.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:25 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Download link in Javascript?! Hi there, can you please change the download link back to the actual link. E.g. instead of javascript:document.dlform.submit() please point the link to the actual file again - as it has been for the last couple of years. That would make it much easier to copy the link to the clipboard and from there to a remote server.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:25 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please reverse this change. Thanks.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:21 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please fix this.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:21 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO To those trying to use/spread the GreaseMonkey Script I posted earlier here: watch the line wrapping. If you don't undo the line wrapping, the script won't work. I've already seen one person post the script on their site without undoing the line wrapping. Here it is again, and hopefully it won't linewrap: // ==UserScript== // @name SourceForge Download Link Fixer // @namespace cypherpunks // @description Fixes the download link // @include http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/* // ==/UserScript== var x=document.getElementsByTagName("a"); for(var i =0;i<x.length;i++) { if(x[i].getAttribute('href') == 'javascript:document.dlform.submit()') { x[i].setAttribute('href',x[i].innerHTML); i=x.length; } }
Date: 2006-06-11 05:15 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Also annoyed by this
Date: 2006-06-11 05:13 Sender: airwalklogik Logged In: YES user_id=931999 This change makes if difficult to paste in links into a terminal... getting files downloaded from SF to my servers now takes significantly longer (i.e. have to re-enable JS just for downloading) and is very annoying. Please revert this change.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:12 Sender: bikeham Logged In: YES user_id=1490618 "just lose it" Emimen
Date: 2006-06-11 05:12 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I'm a long time SourceForge user (about 5 years), I think the previous system was weird, but this is just bad. Please consider reverting the change. Thanks...
Date: 2006-06-11 05:09 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please revert to the non JS download links.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:09 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Agreed. Lose the javascript.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:07 Sender: galtroarc Logged In: YES user_id=1537772 NOt the smartest change SourceForge's made. THis needs to get reverted.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:05 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO bad javascript, bad sourceforge. please be good and put the direct links back. you're not losing any ad revenue. you know, if you just made the link point to your server, you could count the download, then redirect to the actual data ( wget and curl should handle it just fine ).
Date: 2006-06-11 05:04 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please revert this change.
Date: 2006-06-11 05:03 Sender: scrubadub Logged In: YES user_id=1115273 I often copy the link from my desktop to wget it on a shell, please change it back
Date: 2006-06-11 05:02 Sender: the_magistrate Logged In: YES user_id=792993 I concur. This change is not a positive one. I frequently perform updates on thin-clients which all have javascript turned off on their browsers. This change is very frustrating.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:59 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO This makes it much more time consuming to download files to a remote machine. Please revert.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:57 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Folks, this is so not cool. Could this be the first step towards the demise of sourceforge? I look forward to a quick response.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:57 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I concur with the others here; if you're doing the submit button to track clicks or something, it would be 100% better to create an HTTP 302 redirect script that does the exact same thing--you get your tracking info and we get a working link.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:57 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO What a farce! REVERT IT NOW.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:55 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Ditto
Date: 2006-06-11 04:53 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Not only change it back, why not make the whole process simpler, have the page with mirrors, when you click the mirror it downloads the file, direct link, so all people have to do is right click copy link from one of the mirrors and paste into terminal for wgetting, no more having to click a mirror, press stop quickly, right clicky.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:52 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Adding that java function slows down the process of downloading some great programs.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:52 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Remember your roots and Change back!
Date: 2006-06-11 04:51 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please revert
Date: 2006-06-11 04:50 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please lose the javascript - this makes my job as a sysadmin more difficult and annoying.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:50 Sender: slshults Logged In: YES user_id=1159342 It may seem like we're just whining about having to select in order to copy, but seriously, javascript at your download point is just plain lame. your site popularity is likely to fall if you stick with it. change it back, find another way to do whatever it is you're trying to do with this change. and thanks for the free stuff btw.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:48 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Is this just for more advertising? I donate to sf anyway, please make it easier, not harder to get to files.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:47 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Is this just for more advertising? I donate to sf anyway, please make it easier, not harder to get to files.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:42 Sender: blackspyder Logged In: YES user_id=60435 Yet another vote for usability and against breaking of standards. Please revert this back to the expected behavior. We have to deal this this kind of frustration with other sites, we shouldn't need to at sourceforge.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:41 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Add me to the "change it back" crowd.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:41 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I also frequently use wget from one of my shells to download projects from SourceForge. Please get rid of this.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:35 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO the javascript kills this in the links browser. doing quite a bit of text based terminal browsing, this causes major problems. :( Please revert this.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:34 Sender: kreide Logged In: YES user_id=954793 Agreed!
Date: 2006-06-11 04:31 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please switch the downloading system back! I have a system setup through which I daily download a project files using wget, automatically unpack them then compile them for two different platforms. I need to be able to automatically work with wget, and with your new change I am now unable to do that!
Date: 2006-06-11 04:29 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO i usually browse on windows and then copy and paste the link to a linux window... this makes it really, really hard...
Date: 2006-06-11 04:29 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Agreed!
Date: 2006-06-11 04:28 Sender: dueynz Logged In: YES user_id=693383 This is a significant usability issue, very annoying.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:27 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I agree. Please change it back to teh way it was.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:27 Sender: placain Logged In: YES user_id=41432 This change has made downloading via wget (many/most developers' normal method of retrieving files) extremely difficult. Please revert.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:26 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Agreed. This is very annoying. Copy link location has been burned into my head for sourceforge. Argh!
Date: 2006-06-11 04:25 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO agreed
Date: 2006-06-11 04:24 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Wow, this is the best feature ever! I love it when user interfaces put obstacles between me and the goal I'm trying to accomplish! The more obstacles, the happier I am! Yay!
Date: 2006-06-11 04:24 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO the JS thing is bullshit!
Date: 2006-06-11 04:23 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Here's a greaseMonkey script to correct this 'issue': // ==UserScript== // @name SourceForge Download Link Fixer // @namespace cypherpunks // @description Fixes the download link form a javascript function to a regular url // @include http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/* // ==/UserScript== var x=document.getElementsByTagName("a"); for(var i =0;i<x.length;i++) { if(x[i].getAttribute('href') == 'javascript:document.dlform.submit()') { x[i].setAttribute('href',x[i].innerHTML); i=x.length; } }
Date: 2006-06-11 04:22 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I had at least two projects where the download would never even start. This "feature" sucks, and it's annoying. Please remove it ASAP.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:22 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Please change this.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:22 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO the JS thing is bullshit!
Date: 2006-06-11 04:21 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO the JS thing is bullshit!
Date: 2006-06-11 04:21 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Ditto... Ditch the js
Date: 2006-06-11 04:17 Sender: whatbenefits Logged In: YES user_id=415177 I typically surf for what I need, then stop the auto download, copy the link and WGET it thru a shell on a server.. Now because of this JS BS, I can't do that... WTF? Who was thinking over there? This site is populated with loads of people who surf w/o JS and it's so-called enriching experience... Get rid of it - or you may end up getting rid of all your users...
Date: 2006-06-11 04:12 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I agree
Date: 2006-06-11 04:11 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Ya it is hard to download files now since I don't feel safe with Javascript enabled much
Date: 2006-06-11 04:11 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Yes, please. It's a small detail, but it does make a big difference for remote management. I thought I was going crazy yesterday. Thanks
Date: 2006-06-11 04:10 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO ditto. Down with the new JS.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:09 Sender: krux702 Logged In: YES user_id=109791 I regularly download sourceforge from a ssh session with wget. Please get rid of the javascript. It's pointless and annoying.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:09 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO i agree
Date: 2006-06-11 04:08 Sender: guins6866 Logged In: YES user_id=1345739 I second this...
Date: 2006-06-11 04:08 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO YES PLEASE REMOVE THIS, its very annoying and makes it hard for me to download using text based browsers.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:03 Sender: jeffbax Logged In: YES user_id=1449875 There is nothing more annoying than these stupid "your download will begin shortly" and jumping through 8 pages to get the damn file. Change it back, please.
Date: 2006-06-11 04:00 Sender: stepheneb Logged In: YES user_id=9033 Please switch the operation back to the way it was before. I never use the automatic download. I always stop it and copy the link to the clipboard and switch to a shell and paste it after wget. This lets me put the code where I want to easily. You've made it much harder.
Date: 2006-06-11 03:57 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I agree 100% this is kinda shitty please fix this bit of a mistake.
Date: 2006-06-11 03:56 Sender: keleus Logged In: YES user_id=1532965 Using javascript in place of good ole HTML is just plain stupid. At least make it a user preference, or preferrably just get rid of it! (direct links are nice...)
Date: 2006-06-11 03:56 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO PLEASE fix this!!!
Date: 2006-06-11 03:55 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I agree, lose the JS link.
Date: 2006-06-11 03:54 Sender: diablox420 Logged In: YES user_id=1516274 It's too much of a hassle. Please switch back.
Date: 2006-06-11 03:53 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO This JS stuff is obnoxious, please change it back
Date: 2006-06-11 03:52 Sender: ythang Logged In: YES user_id=722232 Just adding my name to this request. Is there anybody who prefers the new Javascript links?
Date: 2006-06-11 03:52 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO This new "feature" creates alot of headaches for someone attempting to download a file in a shell. Please restore the old style linking.
Date: 2006-06-11 03:41 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO I agree, please revert back to the previous method. This is more of hassle, I have several places I was linking to files on my servers, now I'm going to have to manually copy them over. I really don't have time for that. Please consider going back to the direct link method. Sincerely, Roman
Date: 2006-06-11 03:37 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO i browse without Javascript enabled and find the new method of downloading files a huge pain in de arse!!! Ive used SF for years and am sad to see this change take place.
Date: 2006-06-11 01:12 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Also agree it should be removed. Is added complexity with 0 value.
Date: 2006-06-10 23:05 Sender: philipsb Logged In: YES user_id=942374 Yes, please revert, highlighting the entire link and copying it is a painful process compared to using the copy link context menu.
Date: 2006-06-10 22:55 Sender: nobody Logged In: NO Hell yeah, whats that all about .. JavaScript is something I always disable.
Date: 2006-06-10 22:35 Sender: jeremykitchen Logged In: YES user_id=869827 I concur. This is a major problem for a couple of reasons: 1) as previously stated, we can no longer easily copy the url for downloading to remote servers 2) javascript doesn't work on browsers that don't support javascript, and also on browsers with javascript disabled (such as lynx, or firefox with the NoScript extension)

Date: 2006-09-13 20:26
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Why use javascript?

Date: 2006-06-13 12:29
Sender: burley

Logged In: YES
user_id=597273

Greetings,

This change has been reverted, and is live on the site now.
So, it shouldn't affect you any longer. If you have
further
issues that you wish to discuss with us, please submit your
own ticket. We cannot handle everybody's individual issues
on one ticket.

Thank you,

David Burley
Quality of Service Analyst, SourceForge.net

Date: 2006-06-12 22:07
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Please change back to regular link. Sometimes I use lynx
without javascript support and cannot download now or use wget

Date: 2006-06-12 20:20
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Please change this back to the old method. It is tough on us
elinks users!

Date: 2006-06-12 17:57
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Yes. Please!!

Date: 2006-06-12 17:42
Sender: bullvi

Logged In: YES
user_id=469265

Whoever thought up this moronic method should have...

nevermind..

This is retarded and needs to be fixed.

Date: 2006-06-12 14:26
Sender: burley

Logged In: YES
user_id=597273

Greetings,

This change has been reverted, and is live on the site now.
So, it shouldn't affect you any longer. If you have further
issues that you wish to discuss with us, please submit your
own ticket. We cannot handle everybody's individual issues
on one ticket.

Thank you,

David Burley
Quality of Service Analyst, SourceForge.net

Date: 2006-06-12 11:37
Sender: burley

Logged In: YES
user_id=597273

Greetings,

It'll get reverted later today, in the mean time, just click
on the javascript link, and the following page will have the
URL you can copy/paste.

Thank you,

David Burley
Quality of Service Analyst, SourceForge.net

Date: 2006-06-12 05:31
Sender: nata2

Logged In: YES
user_id=49943

This modification is making installing and using open-source
software much more difficult. Its a bummer - because
open-source needs all the help it can get - and this doesn't
make it any easier.

Please fix this.

Date: 2006-06-12 04:59
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

seconded...

And while you are at it, if you could restore ftp services
as well - a lot of people are behind firewalls with
redirecting proxies - which renders things like wget over
http useless.

If you could open up a server or two (ftp1.sourceforge.net,
ftp2.sourceforge.net, etc.) and make it anonymously
available, it would be *most* appreciated..

Date: 2006-06-12 04:49
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Echo

I don't use my browser to d/l files, and this just makes
it
that much more irritating to do so!

Date: 2006-06-12 04:48
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

I also agree, there must be other ways you could work this out, rather
than
cripple the very function that this website is based around.

Date: 2006-06-12 04:47
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

I also agree, there must be other ways you could work this out, rather
than
cripple the very function that this website is based around.

Date: 2006-06-12 04:47
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

I also agree, there must be other ways you could work this out, rather
than
cripple the very function that this website is based around.

Date: 2006-06-12 04:44
Sender: phr34ky

Logged In: YES
user_id=711063

As a fellow wgetter, I move for this javascript business to
be banished from the realm of sf.

Seriously, how the hell am I meant to tell a remote SSH
client to download something?

Date: 2006-06-12 04:16
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

I agree with this people, I like to download a lot of stuff
from your site and with this is more difficult for me since,
now I have to download it to my local computer and then to
the server. That's more work for me. :(

Date: 2006-06-12 03:13
Sender: sickdm

Logged In: YES
user_id=122231

Given that a very large % of SF.net's users download files
onto Linux/etc systems using utilities like wget, the new
javascript change has only made this more difficult.

I don't have a problem looking at an ad banner when I try to
download an OSS package. However I would appreciate an
easier way to copy and paste the download link.

Date: 2006-06-12 03:04
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

This is going to make it difficult for those without javascript capable
browsers
and those who use assistive devices to surf the web. Sourceforge needs to
take
this seriously and should be reverted to the original system ASAP.

Date: 2006-06-12 02:47
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Please make it easy to download files from "wget" and
similar tools. Please understand that it may be necessary
to create a "fork" of sourceforge if it ceases to be the
Open Source enabling site that it's famous for. If it
becomes too commercial, it will be limited to the
commercial web like the telecoms that are attempting to
charge for access. When the grass-roots global mesh is
completely cut-over that doesn't require the telecoms,
sourceforge will be left behind. Technology has already
moved on.

Date: 2006-06-12 02:19
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Guys: while it is important to express your outrage,
realize that SF has no intention of changing this. This was
not done by accident or as a result of sloppy coding. They
CHOSE to do this. The only question left is what will you
choose to do.

Date: 2006-06-12 01:31
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Echo

I don't use my browser to d/l files, and this just makes it
that much more irritating to do so!

Date: 2006-06-12 01:12
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

why not have it like it was.. or giving us a direct link at
once.. why make it harder than nessecery?

Date: 2006-06-12 01:11
Sender: anderiv

Logged In: YES
user_id=125319

I echo the comments of the many people who have posted so
far. This change in link behavior makes life much more
difficult for those of us that live in a terminal,
command-line world.

Please change the link behavior back to the way it has been
for many years. Thank you.

Date: 2006-06-12 01:01
Sender: nobody

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I agree

Date: 2006-06-12 00:27
Sender: rharman

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Seconded. Please restore the original non-javascript link
for the final download URL. Software on SourceForge is not
often downloaded to the machine browsing to SourceForge,
instead the link is curl/wget/lynx -source'd to a system
that has no GUI for security.

Date: 2006-06-11 23:20
Sender: ibnkuldun

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Please dump the Javascript. This is not cool.

Date: 2006-06-11 23:20
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Please don't make downloading any harder than it needs to be.
It is already pretty bad.

Date: 2006-06-11 22:53
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Most of my Sourceforge downloads are done through terminal
windows. This change is very bad.

Please change this back

Date: 2006-06-11 22:14
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I agree with all the other posts, this was a completely
unnecessary change that only hurts the open source community
- the download-system was already an annoying experience as
it was.

Date: 2006-06-11 21:29
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Yeah, make this go away,

Date: 2006-06-11 21:26
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Ditto all of the other posts, please revert!

Date: 2006-06-11 20:44
Sender: mononexo

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Please change this back.

Date: 2006-06-11 19:48
Sender: asoto

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direct links please. Many times, need to get the link for a
direct download from a server using wget.

Thanks

Date: 2006-06-11 19:40
Sender: jonboykayaks

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The new way is horrible. I use to get the direct download
link and then use a program like wget to get it on my server
but now I am forced to download it to my local desktop and
then upload it to my server. That is a complete waste of time.

Date: 2006-06-11 19:37
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The new way is horrible. I use to get the direct download
link and then use a program like wget to get it on my server
but now I am forced to download it to my local desktop and
then upload it to my server. That is a complete waste of time.

Date: 2006-06-11 19:33
Sender: netzdamon

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Another vote to change it back. I am always pasting links to
a remote server.

Date: 2006-06-11 19:25
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this is annoying, please change this

Date: 2006-06-11 19:23
Sender: l33tissw00t

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Please revert.

Date: 2006-06-11 19:13
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Direct links please. Thanks!

Date: 2006-06-11 19:09
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The easier it is to find the software, the better. Direct
download links please.

Date: 2006-06-11 19:08
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yeah, please change this back.

Date: 2006-06-11 18:18
Sender: paulproteus

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I simply would like to agree with the oft-stated sentiment
that this frustrates users who liked to copy the download
URL to pass it to wget.

That's what I used to do. Now it's a pain to download from
SourceForge. This alternative:

<a
href="http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jscalendar/jscalendar-1.0.zip"
onclick="document.dlform.submit(); return
false;">http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jscalendar/jscalendar-1.0.zip</a>

would be much nicer.

Date: 2006-06-11 17:42
Sender: clparker

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please revert back to the old way. It was very nice when
you were wanting to download it onto a machine directly with
wget.

Date: 2006-06-11 17:30
Sender: nobody

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By making your site so confusing, you are hurting open source.

Date: 2006-06-11 17:30
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By making you site so confusing, you are hurting open source.

Date: 2006-06-11 17:24
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What's wrong with you people?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're staring at a link that says http://..... which points
directly to the file!

You *CAN* copy that link and it works. It doesn't require
JS, it's a plain URL printed in big blue letters right on
the page.

Use your eyes.

Date: 2006-06-11 17:19
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Please revert.

Date: 2006-06-11 17:11
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This is wrong. Javascript does NOT nedd to be there.

Date: 2006-06-11 17:10
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this change makes it almost impossible to download software
to servers using lynx or w3m, which is the only way I
download most of this software. Please fix this.

Date: 2006-06-11 17:04
Sender: jeremy_harmon

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Please remove the JavaScript!

Date: 2006-06-11 16:33
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Please revert this change. It makes it very tedious to
download from SF.

Date: 2006-06-11 16:32
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Please revert

Date: 2006-06-11 16:20
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Like the countless commenters above, I find this change
arbitrary and pathetic. To whoever designed this piece of
code, here is how to implement such a (mis-)feature properly.

Not:
<a
href="javascript:document.dlform.submit()">http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jscalendar/jscalendar-1.0.zip</a>

But:
<a
href="http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jscalendar/jscalendar-1.0.zip"
onclick="document.dlform.submit(); return
false;">http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jscalendar/jscalendar-1.0.zip</a>

For those browsers where javascript is available and
enabled, they will execute the onclick handler. For those
which are not, or for much of the people downloading from
SF, who just need to right-click and copy, it will STILL WORK!

Date: 2006-06-11 15:52
Sender: gaheris

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I agree, this is a huge problem for most of us. You don't
have to use JS in such a way to do whatever you want to achieve.

Date: 2006-06-11 15:41
Sender: iamsure

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I have numerous projects hosted here, I've donated and
subscribed. I've used SourceForge for several years, and
advocated its use almost as long.

But this change is entirely negative for the end-users. It
breaks wget compatibility, it forces the user to take an
extra step to get to the information they need, it prevents
non-js browsers from downloading..

Revert this change. Please. You will definitely not receive
further funding from me if you don't.

Date: 2006-06-11 14:48
Sender: nobody

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This is a stupid change, it adds yet another problem for
javascript disabled browsers and using external download
managers!!

Date: 2006-06-11 14:39
Sender: worthawholebean

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I agree.

Date: 2006-06-11 14:14
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yes, is kinda annoying... also if, like me, have disable
javascripts

Date: 2006-06-11 14:08
Sender: nobody

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I don't have a login but still use sourceforge on occasion.

Please put it back to the way it was.

Date: 2006-06-11 14:06
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It's terrible. Please revert.

Date: 2006-06-11 13:56
Sender: matt2k

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Most of the recent changes to the site have been very
positive, but this one is no good. Please change it back.

Date: 2006-06-11 13:52
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Yet another wgetter. Please go back to the way it was. I
can't understand the reasoning behind forcing JavaScript.
It's already been mentioned, but that makes it not work at
all with links/lynx/noscript, etc. It also makes it harder
to copy/paste and use wget. Are you TRYING to shut out the
linux community?

Date: 2006-06-11 13:48
Sender: thomastuttle

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I am YAJLH - Yet Another JavaScript Link Hater.

I have always considered tricks like hidden form submissions
to be nasty artifacts of bad web site management systems or
webmasters who want to make complicated, obtuse systems.
I've always liked how simple Sourceforge is, and that
JavaScript was used only for enhancements, not functionality.

Please keep it the way it was!

Date: 2006-06-11 13:48
Sender: fibr3

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i think adding an additional 'copy link' feature would make
more sense; this could also be used to intercept and log
download data (the reason i assume javascript has been
added), but make it easier for people using a CLI to
download - it would avoid situations where people simply
copy the link and download using wget or similar and bypass
the system (perhaps add a unique download id or something to
the url).
best of both worlds...

Date: 2006-06-11 13:47
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Please revert

Date: 2006-06-11 13:23
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Clicking through the mirror-selection links and then cutting
and pasting the resulting URL after "wget" or "lwp-download"
at the shell prompt on the machines that I manage is also
how I usually grab these files. Please reverse your recent
change, Sourceforge. You need to understand that not
everyone develops on machines that they're running GUI
interfaces + web browsers on!

Date: 2006-06-11 13:21
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Change it back please - it was way better the way it was
before :(

Date: 2006-06-11 13:20
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This is a good way to drive people away from projects using
sourceforge

Date: 2006-06-11 13:20
Sender: post_scriptum

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I agree it should be reversed.

Date: 2006-06-11 13:19
Sender: scotsnyder

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I also agree with the removal of JS. And I also use wget to
get things done on servers.

Date: 2006-06-11 13:04
Sender: rosshend

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I also would like this changed. It is bad web design and
needs to be repaired.

Date: 2006-06-11 13:03
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Pretty PLEASE !

Date: 2006-06-11 12:59
Sender: tequanne

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REMOVE JAVASCRIPT!

I download files from SF by using pclip|xargs wget (pass
clipboard as an argument to wget), and wget doens't speak in
JS.

Date: 2006-06-11 12:47
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Please don't use this feature it's highly annoying.

Simply put - grrrrrrrrr

Date: 2006-06-11 12:41
Sender: phatmonkey

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^ What they said. This is exceedingly annoying!

Date: 2006-06-11 12:27
Sender: nobody

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Please renable wget!

Date: 2006-06-11 12:19
Sender: dingletec

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Wget compatibility a Must!

Like many others here, I work on my servers from whereever I
am. Downloading the file locally, then scp'ing it to a
server takes a huge amount of time compared to the couple of
seconds on the server's high speed connection.

Please listen to your users and find another way to
accomplish what you are doing.

Date: 2006-06-11 12:15
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this is bull shit

Date: 2006-06-11 12:07
Sender: rhnet

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I agree, no javascript.

By forcing users to have a javascript compliant browser is
not the opensource way.

Date: 2006-06-11 12:05
Sender: nobody

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This is a pain, please revert.

Date: 2006-06-11 12:02
Sender: progster

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another wget'er here :-). In any case, please provide a
direct link next to the javascript one... it would definitly
make things easier for us!

Date: 2006-06-11 12:00
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the JS thing is bullshit!

Date: 2006-06-11 11:58
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blecchy thing, that javascript. We all use firefox w/Adblock
and NoScript. Please change it back! Please?

Date: 2006-06-11 11:54
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Please revert immediately. Thank you.

Date: 2006-06-11 11:33
Sender: endelwar

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I only use text based browser on my remote servers, and they
don't speak JS, so please revert to the direct link.

Date: 2006-06-11 11:31
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Thanks sourceforge for a great site for hosting projects.
I've been using this site for years and theres always more
projects to find than there is time to find them in ;)

But with regards to this latest change ....

Please revert back if possible, this is a really annoying
change to many of us, I appreciate we can still do what we
need, as it is possible to see the link, but please, for all
our convenience change it back so we can right click and
copy link location ..... pleasseeee !

remember people, be chilled, be calm, and dont blow things up :)

Date: 2006-06-11 11:30
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Thanks sourceforge for a great site for hosting projects.
I've been using this site for years and theres always more
projects to find than there is time to find them in ;)

But with regards to this latest change ....

Please revert back if possible, this is a really annoying
change to many of us, I appreciate we can still do what we
need, as it is possible to see the link, but please, for all
our convenience change it back so we can right click and
copy link location ..... pleasseeee !

remember people, be chilled, be calm, and dont blow things up :)

Date: 2006-06-11 11:24
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I personally have recommended other developers to avoid SF
for exactly this reason: they can change the method of
hosting and access at any time, without rhyme or reason.

SF probably lost one or two accounts; not a big deal, but
the readers of this thread can make a difference in bulk.

Date: 2006-06-11 11:22
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plz, change it back to regular URL's. wget doesn't work with
javascript. thx

Date: 2006-06-11 11:19
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PLEASE change it back. Horrible change. Can no longer
download files to my remote server, thanks.

Date: 2006-06-11 11:14
Sender: opless

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Javascript download links? WTF?!

Please remove, for the sanity of sysadmins everywhere!

Date: 2006-06-11 11:11
Sender: nobody

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So! Whats the idea? Why break something that was working so
very well already...?

Change it back guys.

Date: 2006-06-11 11:06
Sender: iranzop

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This change prevents me from using lynx or wget on my
servers to get the software from you, it was not a good idea

Date: 2006-06-11 11:03
Sender: nobody

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Downloading to my colo server just got harder. Please back
out the javascript link.

Date: 2006-06-11 10:54
Sender: nobody

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This is bad! Stop!

Date: 2006-06-11 10:52
Sender: nobody

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WTF! Revert this right now you idiots, nobody use
javascript, we all use wget.

Date: 2006-06-11 10:50
Sender: pornel

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The no-JS version with button is useless as well -
I can't copy link.
In JS version context-menu is useless.

Previous download UI was really bad, that one is
#$%@$^.

Date: 2006-06-11 10:50
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Please, do change it. All knowledgeable techise (and site
admins) that reguolarly consider sourceforge a most vaulable
resource wil be most thankful and supportive of sf.net if
you ease the means of downloading the files linked by you in
the mirrors.
Best regards from spain.

Date: 2006-06-11 10:27
Sender: nobody

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Please revert to allow shell / lynx / wget / JavaScript
disabled browser users use SF again.

Date: 2006-06-11 10:27
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Sucks. Remove the JS shlep. Thanks.

Date: 2006-06-11 10:23
Sender: ivanlucas

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This is *very* inconvenient, I thought the delay thing was
annoying enough, but javascript... *yuck*. 99 times out of
100 I just need a URL for wget, don't need any of your fancy
javascript stuff.. Please please consider reverting this change.

Date: 2006-06-11 10:20
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Bad change.

Date: 2006-06-11 10:19
Sender: nobody

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Unnecessary and painful change: could you please revert to
the old download link or at least find a non-javascript
solution?

Date: 2006-06-11 10:14
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This change is a pain - it's a pain to paste the link into
an ssh session on a remote server to wget the file.
Please rever this change.

Date: 2006-06-11 10:11
Sender: xan-

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I would also like this change to be reversed, I use wget a
lot! Why this sudden change?

Date: 2006-06-11 10:11
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Please -- I like the way Source Forge used to be. I like
to use a download manager (StarDownloader) because my
connection sucks, it's slow and cuts out, and FireFox is
awful at resuming downloads. But with this new JavaScript
document running on your page, I have to cross my fingers
everytime I download something from SourceForge, hoping my
connection won't die. But it does. And I have to start
over.

So, please, stop sucking and go back to being awesome.

Date: 2006-06-11 10:06
Sender: bgrolleman

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This is a really bad change, 99% of the time I just want
the url and wget it, sometimes remote, sometimes a local
terminal. This change costs time on my side, I dread the
day I need something and my only interface is a shell in a
co-location.

Last time I checked, this was sourceforge.net and not
msdn!

Date: 2006-06-11 10:04
Sender: nobody

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Please reverse this change. There has to be a better way of
doing this.

Date: 2006-06-11 09:50
Sender: nobody

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I dont like this it seems to be unpopular with people who
know what they are talking about!

Date: 2006-06-11 09:50
Sender: nobody

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Please revert back - the new link is horrible. Not
everyone use Windows and IE!

Date: 2006-06-11 09:49
Sender: strawp

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Yes, I'm suprised at this. Considering the number of
projects hosted on SF that you'd want to just copy the URL
from and run the download on a remote machine, it seems like
a very bad decision, aside from the fact that use of
javascript in href attributes erks the hell out of me and
that "javascript:" is not a valid URI.

Date: 2006-06-11 09:45
Sender: emiliano

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I agree with the general sentiment here -- please restore
the previous behaviour!

Date: 2006-06-11 09:43
Sender: flatworm

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Besides it broke wget downoalds, I used to copy the target
URL (using my browser's "Copy Link Location" action) into
another target and then replace the mirror in the URL with
my nearest one (citkit). That's now requires tricky
drag-selection-over-then-copy-text action. It's *very*
inconvenient and.

Please, revert it back to the behaviour that had been the
standard for years!

Date: 2006-06-11 09:36
Sender: nobody

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Please go back to the other form of downloading. It was
particularly useful for those of us who have dialup
connections when we need to download a large file. We were
able to paste the url into our download managers so that if
it were interrupted we could resume later.

Most browser downloaders won't/don't resume.

Date: 2006-06-11 09:31
Sender: nobody

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breaks my download manager, grr...

Date: 2006-06-11 09:30
Sender: nobody

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Please go back to the other form of downloading. It was
particularly useful for those of us who have dialup
connections when we need to download a large file. We were
able to paste the url into our download managers so that if
it were interrupted we could resume later.

Most browser downloaders won't/don't resume.

Date: 2006-06-11 09:13
Sender: nobody

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what everyone said

Date: 2006-06-11 09:13
Sender: nobody

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Yet another voice in the chorus - please, have mercy on the
wgetters!

Date: 2006-06-11 08:58
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The javascript makes impossible to use wget from the terminal.

Date: 2006-06-11 08:51
Sender: kdkirsch

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I concur. This change should be made to improve the overall
usefullness of the site.

Date: 2006-06-11 08:45
Sender: nobody

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Yes, please fix this. :)

Date: 2006-06-11 08:45
Sender: nobody

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Yes please reverse this. I do not have Java enabled and this
is a big hassle for me.

Date: 2006-06-11 08:40
Sender: nobody

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Agreed, having the easily URL avilable is necessary.

Date: 2006-06-11 08:40
Sender: daxumaming

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This change has caused a lot of inconvenience. Not
everyone's fond of what SourceForge is trying to accomplish.
Please take it out.

Date: 2006-06-11 08:37
Sender: semba

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Agree on the new functionality not being practical. Am no
longer able to copy the download URL, and use wget to
download the required file to a server. Please reverse this
change, or add a link from which the download URL can be
copied from.

Date: 2006-06-11 08:36
Sender: bghose

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I don't understand the reason behind doing such a thing.
What's the point in using JavaScript for this?
Please revert it back to the way it was.
Thanks,
G0SUB

Date: 2006-06-11 08:33
Sender: semba

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Agree on the new functionality not being practical. Am no
longer able to copy the download URL, and use wget to
download the required file to a server. Please reverse this
change, or add a link from which the download URL can be
copied from.

Date: 2006-06-11 08:30
Sender: nobody

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PLEASE!!!

Date: 2006-06-11 08:25
Sender: nobody

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agreed

Date: 2006-06-11 08:20
Sender: nobody

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The only javascript enabled boxes I have access to are win32.
I *need* the actual urls to cut/paste into wget command lines
at the other end of an ssh session with an actual *nix box.

If you take away the urls, I *cannot* use sourceforge
hosted projects, period.

Please reverse the javascript thing.

Date: 2006-06-11 08:19
Sender: mieses

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this change does not help users.
has sf peaked?

Date: 2006-06-11 08:12
Sender: nobody

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Yes, please, give us a javascript-free alternative. It is
much easier to use when working from a terminal.

Date: 2006-06-11 08:11
Sender: nobody

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ALSO AGREEEED!

Date: 2006-06-11 08:07
Sender: nobody

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agree.

Date: 2006-06-11 08:04
Sender: nobody

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agreed

Date: 2006-06-11 07:57
Sender: nobody

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no javascript please, need it for wget.

Date: 2006-06-11 07:56
Sender: nobody

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agreed

Date: 2006-06-11 07:50
Sender: nobody

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yupp - breaks konquerors URL dragging...

really bad idea IMHO

Date: 2006-06-11 07:49
Sender: wenzi

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For users of wget, this is not a good move.

At least have a direct ( non javascript ) link.

Date: 2006-06-11 07:49
Sender: wenzi

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For users of wget, this is not a good move.

At least have a direct ( non javascript ) link.

Date: 2006-06-11 07:47
Sender: ismell

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Javascript downloads are the worst.

Date: 2006-06-11 07:45
Sender: nobody

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my browser does not support javascript, please change

Date: 2006-06-11 07:37
Sender: nobody

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Please revert to showing the link on the download page. Its
very useful for system admins who need to copy/paste links
into wget on their linux boxes.

Date: 2006-06-11 07:29
Sender: nobody

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So many of us use the "copy link" feature to download
through wget or similar. Now we have to copy/paste out of
the web page, which takes more time, is annoying, breaks
scripts, and is less accurate. Please change it back. thanks.

Date: 2006-06-11 07:28
Sender: nobody

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As a windows desktop user who often "manually" copies links
into my linux boxes, this poses a great problem for me.
Please return to the old method where I could simply type in
the link listed at the top of the page and download with
curl or wget. Thanks@

Date: 2006-06-11 07:28
Sender: nobody

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/sign, no javascript please.

Date: 2006-06-11 07:18
Sender: nobody

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ughhhh no javascript please!

Date: 2006-06-11 07:17
Sender: nobody

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I completely agree, this is beyond stupid and hurts the
entire development/open source community...you are
essentially forcing us to use a stupid browser with
javascript support to download files...do you guys even know
there is Unix/Linux out there where better methods of
downloading is available and used!!!! Don't be as stupid as
this apparently makes you.

Date: 2006-06-11 07:13
Sender: nobody

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Breaking the use of wget in this fashion is not appreciated!

Date: 2006-06-11 07:11
Sender: nobody

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grrr. This made a frustrating procedure even more
frustrating. Sounds like something my boss would do.

Date: 2006-06-11 07:07
Sender: nobody

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This change takes a mildly cumbersome process and makes it
absolutely teeth-grindingly frustrated. Please change it back?

Date: 2006-06-11 07:03
Sender: nobody

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I wholeheartedly agree. I'm less interested in using
sourceforge now that I can't use wget to extract the URL.
This change has created a huge inconvenience for me as I
always browse the internet on my desktop and then download
the content using wget on my dev/production machine.

Please revert!

Thanks,
Tommy.

Date: 2006-06-11 06:55
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

I agree.

Date: 2006-06-11 06:53
Sender: britefury

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user_id=22803

Please revert to the old system, cheers. :-)

Date: 2006-06-11 06:49
Sender: nobody

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Please revert this change as soon as possible.

Date: 2006-06-11 06:33
Sender: nobody

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Please revert this change as soon as possible.

Date: 2006-06-11 06:33
Sender: nobody

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seconded...

And while you are at it, if you could restore ftp services
as well - a lot of people are behind firewalls with
redirecting proxies - which renders things like wget over
http useless.

If you could open up a server or two (ftp1.sourceforge.net,
ftp2.sourceforge.net, etc.) and make it anonymously
available, it would be *most* appreciated..

Date: 2006-06-11 06:28
Sender: juvenall

Logged In: YES
user_id=1327906

I'm with everyone else here. This change is bad for both the
independent developer and end users alike. Please, please
revert back to a direct link.

Date: 2006-06-11 06:27
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Please change it back to the old way, it was much more
convinent. Thank you.

Date: 2006-06-11 06:22
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Please change this back, wget is way to useful, and this
makes it almost impossible to use.

Date: 2006-06-11 06:19
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

ditto. remove this *feature*

Date: 2006-06-11 06:17
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Yeah this sucks.

Date: 2006-06-11 06:14
Sender: nobody

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Not using any scripting fuction along the lines of Java or
ActiveX is a better idea than forcing people to use this.
Users with Windows are better off DISABLING
these "features" entirely due to things some ad companies
like to put in their ads that then get on our machines. As
much as Windows gets patched it's the same flaw with a new
door.

Please revert to the older system.

Date: 2006-06-11 06:13
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

ditto

Date: 2006-06-11 06:11
Sender: xaxxon

Logged In: YES
user_id=137837

Please change it back.

Date: 2006-06-11 06:07
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

We're all adults here, and mostly pretty technical ones at
that. Don't treat us like the reverse. Thanks.

Date: 2006-06-11 06:02
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

I completely agree. When I updated programs like coppermine,
I like to wget the latest tarball/zip directly to the server
I am deploying to then work with it via SSH. Having to
search source for the URL or worst download it locally then
upload it is a waste of time and bandwidth.

Its bad enough that sourceforge abandoned F/OSS ideals by
going closed source but making access to true F/OSS projects
harder certainly doesn't help matters.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:59
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Exactly, make it more friendly - not less friendly!
Suppose SF.net developers tested this in their Beta copy of IE7.

Goons!

Date: 2006-06-11 05:57
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Please change this back... this serves no purpose other than
to piss people off. Maybe do something constructive like
making the download system more user friendly? Thanks.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:55
Sender: viksit

Logged In: YES
user_id=600503

I agree. wgetting the final mirror URL is the most efficient
way to download files from SF, especially when SSHd to
remote servers.

-1 for the new system.
++1 for the old one!

Date: 2006-06-11 05:55
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Who authorised this change? This change is stupid.
It actually causes greater load no your servers to render
the freaking page - dipshits!

Date: 2006-06-11 05:52
Sender: peterwooley

Logged In: YES
user_id=1510307

This seems like an odd choice, and I would at least like to
hear a reason for why this has been done. As far as I've
looked, I've not found a reason.

I'd enjoy a switch back to the old *direct* way, if at all
possible. Thanks!

Date: 2006-06-11 05:45
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

No wonder I couldn't download from sourceforge anymore?

Please turn this useless feature off.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:43
Sender: rickyzhou

Logged In: YES
user_id=985995

As countless others have stated, I block javascript (and I
normally copy the link and use wget anyway). I cannot think
of a single valid reason that would force the implementation
of this annoyance.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:42
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

This really sucks - too many hoops means I will get my
binaries from somewhere else.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:40
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

This is a terribly inconvenient change and makes the
download system even more convoluted and difficult to use.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:38
Sender: j_aroche

Logged In: YES
user_id=583648

Please SF, rollback this change!!!

Date: 2006-06-11 05:38
Sender: bjoeboo

Logged In: YES
user_id=1352980

Our company policy prohibits installing java on servers
(or anything else not related to the essential function of
the server). Now I have to use multiple machines to
download a file from sourceforge. lame. lame. lame.
Shame on you sourceforge!

Date: 2006-06-11 05:35
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Please revert back to old behavior. THanks.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:34
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Please correct this obvious mistake. This inhibits the use
of the site even more.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:32
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Hi there,

can you please change the download link back to the
actual link. E.g. instead of

javascript:document.dlform.submit()

please point the link to the actual file again - as it
has been for the last couple of years.

That would make it much easier to copy the link to the
clipboard and from there to a remote server.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:31
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

What brainiac thought this was a good idea?

Date: 2006-06-11 05:31
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Absolutely ridiculous change. Please change it back pronto.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:31
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

I must say that this is the single stupidest change made by
SF. Please reinstate the old system...

Date: 2006-06-11 05:31
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Yeah, this isn't the greatest change, i wouldnt mind if you
changed it back...

Date: 2006-06-11 05:30
Sender: guspaz

Logged In: YES
user_id=840046

This new "feature" makes downloading things with wget very
difficult. Please revert this change.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:30
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Good job, retards.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:27
Sender: nautical9

Logged In: YES
user_id=749031

Completely agree, please change it back.

I use both "Copy Link Location" and lynx to download files
to a remote linux server all the time, and this makes it
even harder than it was.

If you don't want to use a 302 redirect page as the
in-between tracker, as suggested above, why not use an
"onclick" javascript handler, but still leave the href
pointing directly to the file?

Date: 2006-06-11 05:26
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Why complicate things and now make it even more annoying
for people to enjoy this. Your smart, if you need to verify
downloads and thwart bots, use captcha.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:25
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Download link in Javascript?!
Hi there,

can you please change the download link back to the
actual link. E.g. instead of

javascript:document.dlform.submit()

please point the link to the actual file again - as it
has been for the last couple of years.

That would make it much easier to copy the link to the
clipboard and from there to a remote server.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:25
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Please reverse this change. Thanks.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:21
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Please fix this.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:21
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

To those trying to use/spread the GreaseMonkey Script I
posted earlier here: watch the line wrapping. If you don't
undo the line wrapping, the script won't work. I've already
seen one person post the script on their site without
undoing the line wrapping. Here it is again, and hopefully
it won't linewrap:

// ==UserScript==
// @name SourceForge Download Link Fixer
// @namespace cypherpunks
// @description Fixes the download link
// @include http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/*
// ==/UserScript==
var x=document.getElementsByTagName("a");
for(var i =0;i<x.length;i++) {
if(x[i].getAttribute('href') ==
'javascript:document.dlform.submit()') {
x[i].setAttribute('href',x[i].innerHTML);
i=x.length;
}
}

Date: 2006-06-11 05:15
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Also annoyed by this

Date: 2006-06-11 05:13
Sender: airwalklogik

Logged In: YES
user_id=931999

This change makes if difficult to paste in links into a
terminal... getting files downloaded from SF to my servers
now takes significantly longer (i.e. have to re-enable JS
just for downloading) and is very annoying. Please revert
this change.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:12
Sender: bikeham

Logged In: YES
user_id=1490618

"just lose it" Emimen

Date: 2006-06-11 05:12
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

I'm a long time SourceForge user (about 5 years), I think
the previous system was weird, but this is just bad. Please
consider reverting the change.

Thanks...

Date: 2006-06-11 05:09
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Please revert to the non JS download links.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:09
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Agreed.

Lose the javascript.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:07
Sender: galtroarc

Logged In: YES
user_id=1537772

NOt the smartest change SourceForge's made. THis needs to
get reverted.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:05
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

bad javascript, bad sourceforge.

please be good and put the direct links back. you're not
losing any ad revenue. you know, if you just made the link
point to your server, you could count the download, then
redirect to the actual data ( wget and curl should handle it
just fine ).

Date: 2006-06-11 05:04
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Please revert this change.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:03
Sender: scrubadub

Logged In: YES
user_id=1115273

I often copy the link from my desktop to wget it on a shell,
please change it back

Date: 2006-06-11 05:02
Sender: the_magistrate

Logged In: YES
user_id=792993

I concur. This change is not a positive one. I frequently
perform updates on thin-clients which all have javascript
turned off on their browsers. This change is very frustrating.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:59
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

This makes it much more time consuming to download files to
a remote machine. Please revert.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:57
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Folks, this is so not cool. Could this be the first step towards the
demise of
sourceforge? I look forward to a quick response.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:57
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

I concur with the others here; if you're doing the submit
button to track clicks or something, it would be 100% better
to create an HTTP 302 redirect script that does the exact
same thing--you get your tracking info and we get a working
link.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:57
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

What a farce! REVERT IT NOW.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:55
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Ditto

Date: 2006-06-11 04:53
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Not only change it back, why not make the whole process simpler, have the
page
with mirrors, when you click the mirror it downloads the file, direct
link, so all
people have to do is right click copy link from one of the mirrors and
paste into
terminal for wgetting, no more having to click a mirror, press stop
quickly, right
clicky.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:52
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Adding that java function slows down the process of
downloading some great programs.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:52
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Remember your roots and Change back!

Date: 2006-06-11 04:51
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Please revert

Date: 2006-06-11 04:50
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Please lose the javascript - this makes my job as a sysadmin
more difficult and annoying.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:50
Sender: slshults

Logged In: YES
user_id=1159342

It may seem like we're just whining about having to select
in order to copy, but seriously, javascript at your download
point is just plain lame.

your site popularity is likely to fall if you stick with it.
change it back, find another way to do whatever it is
you're trying to do with this change.

and thanks for the free stuff btw.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:48
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Is this just for more advertising? I donate to sf anyway, please make it
easier,
not harder to get to files.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:47
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Is this just for more advertising? I donate to sf anyway, please make it
easier,
not harder to get to files.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:42
Sender: blackspyder

Logged In: YES
user_id=60435

Yet another vote for usability and against breaking of
standards. Please revert this back to the expected behavior.
We have to deal this this kind of frustration with other
sites, we shouldn't need to at sourceforge.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:41
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Add me to the "change it back" crowd.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:41
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

I also frequently use wget from one of my shells to download
projects from SourceForge. Please get rid of this.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:35
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

the javascript kills this in the links browser. doing quite
a bit of text based terminal browsing, this causes major
problems. :(

Please revert this.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:34
Sender: kreide

Logged In: YES
user_id=954793

Agreed!

Date: 2006-06-11 04:31
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Please switch the downloading system back! I have a system
setup through which I daily download a project files using
wget, automatically unpack them then compile them for two
different platforms. I need to be able to automatically work
with wget, and with your new change I am now unable to do that!

Date: 2006-06-11 04:29
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

i usually browse on windows and then copy and paste the link
to a linux window... this makes it really, really hard...

Date: 2006-06-11 04:29
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Agreed!

Date: 2006-06-11 04:28
Sender: dueynz

Logged In: YES
user_id=693383

This is a significant usability issue, very annoying.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:27
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

I agree. Please change it back to teh way it was.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:27
Sender: placain

Logged In: YES
user_id=41432

This change has made downloading via wget (many/most
developers' normal method of retrieving files) extremely
difficult. Please revert.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:26
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Agreed. This is very annoying. Copy link location has been
burned into my head for sourceforge. Argh!

Date: 2006-06-11 04:25
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

agreed

Date: 2006-06-11 04:24
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Wow, this is the best feature ever! I love it when user
interfaces put obstacles between me and the goal I'm trying
to accomplish! The more obstacles, the happier I am! Yay!

Date: 2006-06-11 04:24
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

the JS thing is bullshit!

Date: 2006-06-11 04:23
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Here's a greaseMonkey script to correct this 'issue':

// ==UserScript==
// @name SourceForge Download Link Fixer
// @namespace cypherpunks
// @description Fixes the download link form a javascript
function to a regular url
// @include http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/*
// ==/UserScript==
var x=document.getElementsByTagName("a");
for(var i =0;i<x.length;i++) {
if(x[i].getAttribute('href') ==
'javascript:document.dlform.submit()') {
x[i].setAttribute('href',x[i].innerHTML);
i=x.length;
}
}

Date: 2006-06-11 04:22
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

I had at least two projects where the download would never
even start. This "feature" sucks, and it's annoying.
Please remove it ASAP.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:22
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Please change this.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:22
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

the JS thing is bullshit!

Date: 2006-06-11 04:21
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

the JS thing is bullshit!

Date: 2006-06-11 04:21
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Ditto... Ditch the js

Date: 2006-06-11 04:17
Sender: whatbenefits

Logged In: YES
user_id=415177

I typically surf for what I need, then stop the auto
download, copy the link and WGET it thru a shell on a
server.. Now because of this JS BS, I can't do that... WTF?
Who was thinking over there?

This site is populated with loads of people who surf w/o JS
and it's so-called enriching experience...

Get rid of it - or you may end up getting rid of all your
users...

Date: 2006-06-11 04:12
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

I agree

Date: 2006-06-11 04:11
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Ya it is hard to download files now since I don't feel safe
with Javascript enabled much

Date: 2006-06-11 04:11
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Yes, please. It's a small detail, but it does make a big
difference for remote management. I thought I was going
crazy yesterday.

Thanks

Date: 2006-06-11 04:10
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

ditto. Down with the new JS.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:09
Sender: krux702

Logged In: YES
user_id=109791

I regularly download sourceforge from a ssh session with
wget. Please get rid of the javascript. It's pointless and
annoying.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:09
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

i agree

Date: 2006-06-11 04:08
Sender: guins6866

Logged In: YES
user_id=1345739

I second this...

Date: 2006-06-11 04:08
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

YES PLEASE REMOVE THIS, its very annoying and makes it hard for me to
download using text based browsers.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:03
Sender: jeffbax

Logged In: YES
user_id=1449875

There is nothing more annoying than these stupid "your download will begin

shortly" and jumping through 8 pages to get the damn file.

Change it back, please.

Date: 2006-06-11 04:00
Sender: stepheneb

Logged In: YES
user_id=9033

Please switch the operation back to the way it was before.

I never use the automatic download. I always stop it and copy the link to
the
clipboard and switch to a shell and paste it after wget. This lets me put
the code
where I want to easily.

You've made it much harder.

Date: 2006-06-11 03:57
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

I agree 100% this is kinda shitty please fix this bit of a
mistake.

Date: 2006-06-11 03:56
Sender: keleus

Logged In: YES
user_id=1532965

Using javascript in place of good ole HTML is just plain
stupid. At least make it a user preference, or preferrably
just get rid of it! (direct links are nice...)

Date: 2006-06-11 03:56
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

PLEASE fix this!!!

Date: 2006-06-11 03:55
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

I agree, lose the JS link.

Date: 2006-06-11 03:54
Sender: diablox420

Logged In: YES
user_id=1516274

It's too much of a hassle. Please switch back.

Date: 2006-06-11 03:53
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

This JS stuff is obnoxious, please change it back

Date: 2006-06-11 03:52
Sender: ythang

Logged In: YES
user_id=722232

Just adding my name to this request. Is there *anybody* who
prefers the new Javascript links?

Date: 2006-06-11 03:52
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

This new "feature" creates alot of headaches for someone
attempting to download a file in a shell.

Please restore the old style linking.

Date: 2006-06-11 03:41
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

I agree, please revert back to the previous method. This is
more of hassle, I have several places I was linking to
files on my servers, now I'm going to have to manually copy
them over. I really don't have time for that.
Please consider going back to the direct link method.

Sincerely,
Roman

Date: 2006-06-11 03:37
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

i browse without Javascript enabled and find the new method of downloading

files a huge pain in de arse!!!

Ive used SF for years and am sad to see this change take place.

Date: 2006-06-11 01:12
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Also agree it should be removed. Is added complexity with 0
value.

Date: 2006-06-10 23:05
Sender: philipsb

Logged In: YES
user_id=942374

Yes, please revert, highlighting the entire link and copying
it is a painful process compared to using the copy link
context menu.

Date: 2006-06-10 22:55
Sender: nobody

Logged In: NO

Hell yeah, whats that all about .. JavaScript is something I
always disable.

Date: 2006-06-10 22:35
Sender: jeremykitchen

Logged In: YES
user_id=869827

I concur.

This is a major problem for a couple of reasons:
1) as previously stated, we can no longer easily copy the
url for downloading to remote servers
2) javascript doesn't work on browsers that don't support
javascript, and also on browsers with javascript disabled
(such as lynx, or firefox with the NoScript extension)

Field	Old Value	Date	By
close_date	2006-06-13 12:30	2006-10-02 19:18	burley
status_id	Open	2006-10-02 19:18	burley
status_id	Closed	2006-09-13 20:26	nobody
status_id	Open	2006-06-13 12:30	burley
close_date	2006-06-12 14:30	2006-06-13 12:30	burley
status_id	Open	2006-06-13 12:29	burley
status_id	Closed	2006-06-12 17:42	bullvi
close_date	-	2006-06-12 14:30	burley
status_id	Open	2006-06-12 14:30	burley
status_id	Open	2006-06-12 14:27	burley
assigned_to	nobody	2006-06-12 11:37	burley

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