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#73 Smart playlists from iTunes get destroyed

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2007-03-16
2006-06-05
No

I completely removed Winamp and installed v5.22,
followed by mlipod 1.33alpha9. Sending playlists to
my iPod now works fine, thank you :)

I did just try the 'Sync all ML smart views to smart
playlists' setting, which doesn't seem to work
whether I use it from the context menu or doing a full
sync. I'm not fussed over that, but just
reporting it.

I also thought I'd tell you that, even using the above
versions of Winamp and mlipod, Winamp still
pretty much decimates the playlists on my friends
iPod. On their own computer, they solely use
iTunes, and as I said previously, have a range of
normal and smart playlists made with iTunes.

I plugged their iPod into my computer and opened
iTunes and all was fine. I closed iTunes and opened
Winamp, and it showed one playlist, which was an
iTunes smart playlist but appeared as a normal
playlist in Winamp (and was also empty, as the iTunes
smart playlists are when viewed in Winamp).

Before opening Winamp, I had made a backup of the
folder X:\iPod_Control\iTunes and everything
inside it. I closed Winamp after seeing that it had
pretty much wiped the playlists off the iPod,
and then copied back over the files that I had backed
up. If I remember correctly, the only files
that had really changed were iTunesDB, iTunesDB.old,
iTunesSD, and iTunesPrefs. I know you said
smart playlists between iTunes and Winamp will never
be compatible, but I'm wondering why it appears
that with my friends iPod, mlipod is changing or
corrupting the database of playlists and/or songs.

However, I understand that it may not be mlipod alone
that is causing this. It could be that ml_ipod
cannot properly read data from an iPod that has only
been used with iTunes previously; it could only
be an issue with video iPods; it could just be
incompatibility that cannot be fixed without Apple
also making some changes (which is most unlikely!).

Anyway, thanks for your continued work on such a
useful plugin.

Cheers,
Jeremy

Discussion

  • Achim Bursian

    Achim Bursian - 2006-06-05

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    Well, the reason is that ml_ipod simply ignores some stuff
    that iTunes
    writes into the database, and later rewrites the database
    with its
    internal data. So the iTunes stuff gets lost.
    1.33a15 is better in that way.
    Loosing whole playlist should not have happened, I haven't
    seen that
    yet.
    If complete playlists got lost, I have to look a bit more.
    I need the
    original version of the iTunesDB file (the one written by
    iTunes). Could
    you zip that and mail it? That would be very helpful.

     
  • Nobody/Anonymous

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    I have actually discovered that the playlists are not
    destroyed, but just not read.

    Upon viewing the iPod in iTunes again, all the playlists
    appear as normal. However, if you make any changes to the
    iPod with ml_ipod, then the iTunes database on the iPod
    would be overwritten and all the playlists "destroyed".

    I'll attach the iTunes database from the iPod as soon as I
    make an account on SourceForge.

     
  • Achim Bursian

    Achim Bursian - 2006-06-12
    • status: open --> pending-fixed
     
  • Achim Bursian

    Achim Bursian - 2006-06-12

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    This is hopefully fixed now in the new 1.40 release. Please
    give it a try and report whether it works now. Thanks.

     
  • Nobody/Anonymous

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    Well, the playlists now certainly show up in Winamp. That
    is, whereas before they wouldn't show at all but would still
    be there when you checked in iTunes, now they do show in Winamp.

    However, upon disconnecting the iPod, all the playlists have
    disappeared. So it appears mlipod has taken one step
    forward, and at the same time, gone a step backwards.

     
  • Achim Bursian

    Achim Bursian - 2006-06-22

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    Strange, I can't reproduce that.
    Please try with the latest 1.40 patch version on
    http://mitglied.lycos.de/bursian/ipod/

     
  • Achim Bursian

    Achim Bursian - 2006-06-22
    • status: pending-fixed --> open-fixed
     
  • Achim Bursian

    Achim Bursian - 2006-06-23
    • status: open-fixed --> pending-fixed
     
  • SourceForge Robot

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    This Tracker item was closed automatically by the system. It was
    previously set to a Pending status, and the original submitter
    did not respond within 14 days (the time period specified by
    the administrator of this Tracker).

     
  • SourceForge Robot

    • status: pending-fixed --> closed-fixed
     
  • Achim Bursian

    Achim Bursian - 2006-08-24
    • labels: --> Playlist support
     
  • Achim Bursian

    Achim Bursian - 2007-03-16
    • milestone: 601897 --> official_release_version,_English
     

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