Re: [Wonder-disc] .js files not getting served - SOLVED

[Mike S. <ms...@md...>]

You are misinterpreting both the comments from me and from Chuck.   
This is not a religious argument about Xcode vs Eclipse, which has  
been done to death.  It's a simple statement of fact about the future  
of WebObjects development.  You can certainly continue to write code  
in the Java editor of Xcode, and you can even hook up ant tasks to  
it, but WOBuilder will be gone and EOModeler will be gone.  This  
doesn't leave you with much, since right now you can't access the  
alternatives without using Eclipse (for now).

ms

On Jun 5, 2007, at 12:31 PM, Johan Henselmans wrote:

>
> On 5-jun-2007, at 17:52, Chuck Hill wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2007, at 4:40 AM, Riccardo De Menna wrote:
>>>
>>> As a plea to you developers... don't let us n00b xcoders die :)
>>
>> Dead.  In a box.  That noise you hear is the dirt being thrown on
>> top.  :-)
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>> --  
>>
>> Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their
>> overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific
>> problems.
>> http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects
>>
>>
>
> I would hope that the attitude from experienced WebObjects developers
> towards XCode would be a little more lenient.
>
> I really appreciate all the stuff all the people are doing to make
> Eclipse a good tool to use with WebObjects, but we should not ignore
> the fact that Eclipse often works counter-intiutive, and that XCode
> might not have all these nice little tools that can make programming
> easier, the user interface is miles ahead of what Eclipse offers.
>
> Allthough Eclipse has all these nice tricks that make life easier if
> you are an experienced developer, for the not-so experienced
> developer Eclipse is not such a nice tool. Things change under your
> feet, without any warning: folders appear and disappear, contextual
> menus change every time you click on another part of the screen, the
> toolbar changes everytime you click on another filetype. There are
> far too many icons that make it hard to remember what the icon is
> supposed to mean. There are no visual clues that something is going
> on. Sometimes there are message windows, but they get in front of
> everything else, so that  you are suddenly typing in an Eclipse
> window instead of a terminal window or a text editor window.
>
>  From the point of Human Computer Interface it is one of the worst
> examples that I have seen lately. If you have read the books of Jeff
> Raskin, Jacob Nielsen or even a classic as Norman's Design of
> Everyday Things you will propably recognize all the terrible
> interface errors that this programming-environment makes which are
> against any kind of knowledge that has been acquired about the way
> people can work the easiest with computer interfaces and with  
> machines.
>
> Perhaps from the point of view of user that are used to MS-Windows-
> interfaces nothing is wrong, as it is just as horrible. But if you
> have ever worked with a well-designed terminal program, or a well
> designed program-interface, you know how much Eclipse is doing All
> The Wrong Things.
>
> (Now,  where was that button again that linked my editor window to
> the package explorer window so that I can repair the code that I have
> put in the wrong file because there was no visual clue as to what I
> was editing...)
>
>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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