RE: [Webware-discuss] Running with mod_python

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Wari,

How would you compare Webware to Twisted? Is Twisted overkill for creating
web applications? Would you say webware+PSP/Cheetah or Twisted is more
efficient in creting web apps? Stability problems on either one?

Thanks,
Richard

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>From: web...@li...
>[mailto:web...@li...] On Behalf
>Of Wari Wahab
>Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 10:03 PM
>To: Aaron Held
>Cc: Webware discuss
>Subject: [Webware-discuss] Running with mod_python
>
>
>On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 01:48, Aaron Held wrote:
>> Its actually very easy and I have done it a bunch of times, if you
>> scan the Webware email list you will see some examples posted.
>
>I've only one thing to say:
>
>Damn you! Aaron, you've sold me to webware!! :)
>
>I've been downloading, and reading webware materials (not enough of it
>though), joined the mailing list, and will probably try to sell this to
>my boss so that I can replace the annoying PHP version that we had
>(unfortunately, that's not likely to happen though, based on the R&D
>we've spent on PHP). Anything that's not PHP and can serve more than 10
>requests per second on a Cyrix 200Mhz is ok in my book :)
>
>It is one of the solutions that I see as a good compromise
>between, say,
>twisted and PHP (yeah, my colleagues thinks PHP is the best thing since
>sliced bread). On one hand, twisted will force you to think of building
>non blocking scripts with their reactor, and woven is not something I'd
>call straight forward. PHP is too straight forward, and since it's
>script based, it is easy to think of your code as simple scripts that
>runs from top to bottom.
>
>WebKit and PSP allows you to code like PHP, yet you could add more
>thought to it and make (upgrade?) your scripts to live
>objects. I wished
>that I have known Python and Webware 2+ yrs ago, and I won't be in this
>mess I have right now, which is, bad code, workarounds, etc inherent in
>PHP.
>
>There are downsides to Webware too, though,
>
> * it is one of the systems that killed my 200Mhz box, freezing it, no
>clue why, not sure if it's webware, or python that freezes it. Running
>on a screen session is ok though. I'll have to investigate this, and
>goodbye to my almost 1 yr uptime :)
> * it needs a better startup model like twisted does, that is,
>fork off,
>detach from parent, produce a pid file, and logs should/may go to
>somefile, depending on settings.
> * tried to compile the documentation with epydoc (yeah I know it's not
>meant for that) does not produce the relevant docs I need (not
>really an
>issue, but epydoc is a nice doc tool IMO)
> * Is UserKit usable yet?
>
>Anyway, looks like I need to do a simple presentation and a sample wiz
>bang (but small) app to show how things work in a app server
>environment.
>
>Expect more questions from me :)
>
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