I would love to see a book - I've taught webware and written some tutorials and guides - but nothing recent.

I think a pure webware book would fail, and there have been a few less then interesting Web Development in Python books as well.

Something like Enterprise Integration in Python would be interesing - focus on webware but do python things like NT Service integration, Manage MS Exchange, XMLRPC, long running threads etc...

There are lots of things Python can do easily that are hard in Java, and there are more things that Webware can do well that PHP can't. (I like to position it as the elegance of J2EE w/ the development speed of PHP)

I think that a webware book should focus on tasks done well in Python and webware.  (Otherwise it  seen as a less capable Java server or overly complex PHP clone).

Thanks,
-Aaron Held

Shayne ONeill wrote:
Hmm. A book.

I'm wondering if I should/could put my hands up on that one.

Being that I'm a journo by trade, I'm thinking I might be able to pull it
off. Now that said, I'd need some serious ears when I had a question to
bounce off. That said, I'm a reasonable enough programmer, or I'd like to
think I am :)

Perhaps the trick is I write a sample chapter and throw it at a few
publishers (orielly etc) and see if theres any interest. If theres not, I
doubt I could justify the expenditure of time, but if there is interest
It'd be a damn great way to spend this currently-between-jobs period I'm
in.

Whats the vibes here?

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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004, Chris Barker wrote:

  
Douglas Burchard wrote:

    
Would something other than a wrench fit better? For example:
      
I like the wrench a lot, I think "tools" when I think of Webware.

    
    <http://www.douglasburchard.com/demo-logo_01.jpg>
      
the feather ties it to Apache too much. while most of us probably use it
with Apache, it is NOT an Apache extension.

    
I know, there are several problems with this specific example, but
perhaps someone could offer a better metaphor...
      
Maybe a way to use the wrench, and something that says: "web". A globe,
perhaps a wrench adjusting the globe? I'm NOT a designer, so I'm not
going ot even try to make an image out of that idea!

More than a good website, more than a logo, what Webware needs to get
some real exposure and use is a Book. I had a colleague who had worked
with me on a Python based project, then set out to build a web app.
After looking through the books on developing for the web with Python,
and buying "Web Programming in Python", he was thoroughly confused about
what combinations of tools to use (CGI, mod_python, mod_snake, jonpy,
quiote, webware, etc.). If there was a book: "Building web applications
with Python and Webware", that told you what tools to use, and how to
use them, he probably would have used it. Instead, he was faced with
Zope, which he didn't really like. So, he bought a book that told him
how to use PHP and MySQL to do what he wanted. He didn't like PHP
better, what he liked was that there weren't so many options he had to
choose from for every part of the project. A self contained book about
Webware would really make the difference!

That being said, I have neither the talent nor the time to write such a
book, but I think someone who did might even be able to earn a decent
profit from it.

-Chris





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