Re: [webERP-users] [Care2002-developers] [Fwd: So all may know]

[Beth L. <bet...@gm...>]

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Beth Lesko <bet...@gm...> wrote:

Unfortunately, Tim, this seems the only way to get a response from you at
> all.
>
> Thank you for finally responding!
>
> I suspected you might be using that un-signed contract as your
> justification for not paying me, but don't forget - I do have documentation
> from our IM and email conversations where you agreed to pay me for the
> second trip.
>
> Somehow, I never received Mungure's reply... but yes, the contract was with
> you and he, who was most interested in the webERP portion, was not happy
> with the output. Mind you, my focus was entirely Care2x, and under your
> direction.
>
> I have documentation that contradicts most of the second paragraph of your
> reply, including the details of which hospital had agreed to pay you for my
> second visit. I was disappointed to be taken off the project - yes, which
> incidentally you decided to do because you couldn't pay me after my
> departure date from Arusha, but not upset, and the invoice had been created
> and updated long before the financial hardship became a reality because you
> didn't keep your word regarding payment. I also have documentation of the
> "more sensible proposal" I sent you, which you claim I refused to do.
>
> Pretty shabby. But, oh - that's right - you won't even be reading this...
>
> I think it's good to discuss this on a public forum as it is important for
> people to know you may promise to pay them for 8 weeks of work, but then
> fail to keep your word.
>
> Beth
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Tim Schofield <ti...@we...>wrote:
>
>> Ok Beth, but remember you were the one who chose to make this public.
>> You forgot to mention in your email that I paid you for the time you
>> were in Tanzania, as per the agreement between ourselves. You were
>> upset when I discontinued your involvement after your second visit,
>> but as you can see from the reply that Mr Mungure sent below, the
>> hospitals were not happy with your work. Anyway, the agreement we had
>> was to cover the period when I was recovering from my broken ankle,
>> and that period was over.
>>
>> At this point you came up with this new invoice - perhaps because of
>> the financial hardship you mentioned? - for expenses which were not
>> covered by the agreement that we had. By this time the hospitals were
>> not prepared to recompense me for your visits, let alone expenses, as
>> there was little evidence of what had been achieved.  I had however
>> already paid this money to you. As an expression of appreciation for
>> the effort that you had made I did say that I would pay some of this
>> if you went away, revisited the invoice and came back with a more
>> sensible proposal. This you refused to do, and I now withdraw that
>> offer.
>>
>> I will not answer or even read any further emails in this public
>> thread, so don't bother replying. If you wish to continue this
>> discussion - though I see no point in your doing so - do it privately
>> where it belongs.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On 29 April 2010 14:58, Aminiel Mungure <amu...@ya...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Beth,
>> > You are only requesting as to whether we can make an appeal to Tim- this
>> i understand.
>> >
>> > My personal view on this matter is that you must have drawn an agreement
>> on the terms and conditions of the assignment. The conditions should
>> have stated the output desired and the deadlines. In view of the fact that I
>> am unaware of the terms of the contract, the deliverables, timelines and
>> the abbitration method specified in the contract, I am unable to make an
>> appeal.
>> > Coming from ALMC i can only state that we did not get the output
>> expected from the assignment which was quite hurting given the urgency with
>> which we expected the work to be accomplished. However, our main contract
>> was with Tim -not you.
>> > Sorry that this may not be the best response you may have expected.
>> >
>> > sincerely
>> > a mungure-cfo-ALMC
>> > --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Beth Lesko <bet...@gm...> wrote:
>> >
>> > From: Beth Lesko <bet...@gm...>
>> > Subject: [Fwd: So all may know]
>> > To: car...@li..., "webERP Developers" <
>> web...@li...>, 4ca...@go...
>> > Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 4:33 AM
>> >
>> >
>> > Tim received payment for an invoice I submitted to him in August, 2009
>> for hours worked and expenses incurred totaling $13,000 USD that by all
>> appearances he does not plan to pay me.
>> >
>> > Tim has not responded to telephone calls or emails from me since
>> 11/10/2009. On that day, he said he would have his bank transfer the payment
>> in that week.
>> >
>> > This has caused my husband and I extreme financial hardship. I was in no
>> position financially to pay for a trip to Africa, or lose 3 months income.
>> >
>> > Any appeal you opt to make to Tim on my behalf would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>> >
>> > Beth Lesko
>> > 207-232-5304
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