Hi,
Thanks for your feedback. I've read somewhere (actually in "A Structure and
Motion Toolkit in Matlab"  "Interactive adventures in S. and M.", by P.H.
S. Torr) that setting w to 1 or any other value matters only if the
algorithm for computing F is invariant / variant to the value of w.
But, I have one more question, regarding the same previously mentioned
example (compute_FMatrix_example.cxx), from oxl\mvl, and especially the code
about computing the error for F:
double d = 0;
for (unsigned int i = 0; i < points1.size(); ++i)
d += f.image1_epipolar_distance_squared(points1[i], points2[i]);
vcl_cout << "Error = " << d/points1.size() << vcl_endl;
Isn't that only considering one side of the error ? Shouldn't we combine
both errors for the values of f.image2_epipolar_distance_squared() and
f.image1_epipolar_distance_squared(). I mean that , in this way, for each
match, we find an epipolar line in image1, given some point2, and see how
far point1 (from the same matching pair) is from that line. What about the
reverse  given some point1 in image1, compute an epipolar line in image2,
and find the distance of point2 (from the same matching pair) to that line.
I tried that and got almost the same final error (using RANSAC and MLESAC),
but it differed a lot when using the linear method. Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Angel
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From: Oli Cooper [mailto:Oli.Cooper@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 1:14 PM
To: 'Angel Todorov'; vxlusers@...
Subject: RE: [Vxlusers] Fundamental matrix & normalized coordinates
You seem to be a little confused as to the use of homogeneous coordinates
and the difference between the Fundamental and Essential matrices. The
Hartley and Zisserman book "Multiple View Geometry" should help. It is fine
to compute F by setting w=1.0
Normalised coordinates in the sense of the Essential Matrix refers to the
coordinates being in the camera coordinate system as opposed to image
coordinates.
Just to confuse things further, you should ALWAYS normalise the coordinates
when computing F by translating them so the centroid of the points is at the
origin and scaling them so they are a mean distance of sqrt(2) away.
There are methods in the mvl library for normalising coordinates and
extracting camera matrices from a computed F.
I'm sure the MVG book will explain better than me...
Oli.
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From: vxlusersadmin@...
[mailto:vxlusersadmin@...] On Behalf Of Angel Todorov
Sent: 10 May 2005 08:11
To: vxlusers@...
Subject: [Vxlusers] Fundamental matrix & normalized coordinates
Hi,
Suppose we have two uncalibrated cameras, and we are processing some image
sequence  in the example
contrib\oxl\mvl\examples\compute_FMatrix_example.cxx , the point coordinates
are normalized with w=1.0, i.e we are basically computing the essential
matrix, but, my question is, given that we have no knowledge of the
homogeneous coordinates, is it still possible to obtain a meaningful error
by computing F (with w=1.0 set), and then try to find the camera matrices by
some other method (like bundle adjustment) ?
The purpose is to refine matches by fitting them to epipolar lines in the
beginning, and I was wondering if this is a sensible approach provided that
the matched points' coordinates are normalized, and we know nothing about
the camera calibration matrices as well (and we don't do explicit
calibration)? In some publications, unknown cameras are also assumed, but
it's not very clear to me if, while first computing F or T, coordinates are
normalized or not. (Otherwise, as far as I know, we can obtain the essential
matrix, if knowing the calibration matrices: E = K'*F*K.) Thank you very
much for your help.
Regards,
Angel
