From: Perry O. <oti...@gm...> - 2008-06-26 14:32:46
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I've set up VuFind with a copy of our bib records for us to use while we are having connectivity issues with our Voyager server. We also have a citation database on our Voyager server that we would like to make available on VuFind. I'd like to set it up so that we either have seperate url's for the two or that users are presented with the two options when they go to the main VuFind url. Can anybody help me in figuring out how to create another mysql database and having VuFind use both databases? Thanks. Perry |
From: Alan R. <ala...@mn...> - 2008-06-26 15:25:29
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Hello Perry, Why would you want two separate databases? My plan is to combine different sources into one database so that they can all be searched at the same time. As long as the ID field is unique for each record there should be no problem. When I add records from new sources I plan on prefixing the record ID with a string to keep them unique for each source. I also have my implementation set up for a consortia in that I can search any individual institution from one interface. I used the building field in the schema and populated it with a code for each institution. I then had to add a field called library to all of the links so that if the library field is defined it limits all searches to that particular institution. This could also work for you too. al On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 09:32 -0500, Perry Otis wrote: > I've set up VuFind with a copy of our bib records for us to use while > we are having connectivity issues with our Voyager server. We also > have a citation database on our Voyager server that we would like to > make available on VuFind. I'd like to set it up so that we either > have seperate url's for the two or that users are presented with the > two options when they go to the main VuFind url. Can anybody help me > in figuring out how to create another mysql database and having VuFind > use both databases? Thanks. > > Perry -- Alan Rykhus PALS, A Program of the Minnesota State Colleges and Universities (507)389-1975 ala...@mn... |
From: Perry O. <oti...@gm...> - 2008-06-26 17:56:07
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Because these are different types of records. The database I currently have consists of bibliographic records for our books, videos, sound recordings etc. The other database is a database of citations to articles in various periodicals. It doesn't strictly adhere to MARC rules nor does it used standard LC subject headings. I'm not sure how the records would integrate with our regular bib records. I suppose it might be possible to do this with a setup similar to your consortia setup, but I still worry about how the subject headings would work. On 6/26/08, Alan Rykhus <ala...@mn...> wrote: > > Hello Perry, > > Why would you want two separate databases? My plan is to combine > different sources into one database so that they can all be searched at > the same time. As long as the ID field is unique for each record there > should be no problem. When I add records from new sources I plan on > prefixing the record ID with a string to keep them unique for each > source. > > I also have my implementation set up for a consortia in that I can > search any individual institution from one interface. I used the > building field in the schema and populated it with a code for each > institution. I then had to add a field called library to all of the > links so that if the library field is defined it limits all searches to > that particular institution. This could also work for you too. > > al > > On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 09:32 -0500, Perry Otis wrote: > > I've set up VuFind with a copy of our bib records for us to use while > > we are having connectivity issues with our Voyager server. We also > > have a citation database on our Voyager server that we would like to > > make available on VuFind. I'd like to set it up so that we either > > have seperate url's for the two or that users are presented with the > > two options when they go to the main VuFind url. Can anybody help me > > in figuring out how to create another mysql database and having VuFind > > use both databases? Thanks. > > > > Perry > -- > Alan Rykhus > PALS, A Program of the Minnesota State Colleges and Universities > (507)389-1975 > ala...@mn... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php > _______________________________________________ > VuFind-General mailing list > VuF...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vufind-general > |
From: Andrew N. <and...@vi...> - 2008-06-26 18:16:10
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Perry - we initially designed VuFind to be an application that indexes all content, whether its marc or not. The idea is that you can include your marc records from your catalog as well as the records from your digital library or repository or any other database of content you may have. The trick is mapping the content from these sources to the correct fields in VuFind. You can see an example of this at: http://bibliography.library.villanova.edu This is a VuFind implementation of our university bibliography. The content is stored in a MySQL database, and we created a simple import script that reads the data from the mysql database and then maps it to the VuFind index. Hope this helps Andrew From: vuf...@li... [mailto:vuf...@li...] On Behalf Of Perry Otis Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:56 PM To: VuFind-General Subject: Re: [VuFind-General] Setting up multiple databases Because these are different types of records. The database I currently have consists of bibliographic records for our books, videos, sound recordings etc. The other database is a database of citations to articles in various periodicals. It doesn't strictly adhere to MARC rules nor does it used standard LC subject headings. I'm not sure how the records would integrate with our regular bib records. I suppose it might be possible to do this with a setup similar to your consortia setup, but I still worry about how the subject headings would work. On 6/26/08, Alan Rykhus <ala...@mn...<mailto:ala...@mn...>> wrote: Hello Perry, Why would you want two separate databases? My plan is to combine different sources into one database so that they can all be searched at the same time. As long as the ID field is unique for each record there should be no problem. When I add records from new sources I plan on prefixing the record ID with a string to keep them unique for each source. I also have my implementation set up for a consortia in that I can search any individual institution from one interface. I used the building field in the schema and populated it with a code for each institution. I then had to add a field called library to all of the links so that if the library field is defined it limits all searches to that particular institution. This could also work for you too. al On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 09:32 -0500, Perry Otis wrote: > I've set up VuFind with a copy of our bib records for us to use while > we are having connectivity issues with our Voyager server. We also > have a citation database on our Voyager server that we would like to > make available on VuFind. I'd like to set it up so that we either > have seperate url's for the two or that users are presented with the > two options when they go to the main VuFind url. Can anybody help me > in figuring out how to create another mysql database and having VuFind > use both databases? Thanks. > > Perry -- Alan Rykhus PALS, A Program of the Minnesota State Colleges and Universities (507)389-1975 ala...@mn...<mailto:ala...@mn...> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php _______________________________________________ VuFind-General mailing list VuF...@li...<mailto:VuF...@li...> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vufind-general |
From: Alan R. <ala...@mn...> - 2008-06-26 18:14:16
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Hello Perry, Since they don't have any subject headings, you would not include them in the record. You could only search the citations on title, author, article title, publisher, probably abstract, a couple of other fields. You would need to map the fields in the citations to corresponding or similar fields in the schema. The Record displays would be trickier, because the current implementation of VUFind uses the MARC record to build the displays. You would probably have to build a fullrecord with field tags for the display. al On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 12:56 -0500, Perry Otis wrote: > Because these are different types of records. The database I > currently have consists of bibliographic records for our books, > videos, sound recordings etc. The other database is a database of > citations to articles in various periodicals. It doesn't strictly > adhere to MARC rules nor does it used standard LC subject headings. > I'm not sure how the records would integrate with our regular bib > records. I suppose it might be possible to do this with a setup > similar to your consortia setup, but I still worry about how the > subject headings would work. > > On 6/26/08, Alan Rykhus <ala...@mn...> wrote: > Hello Perry, > > Why would you want two separate databases? My plan is to > combine > different sources into one database so that they can all be > searched at > the same time. As long as the ID field is unique for each > record there > should be no problem. When I add records from new sources I > plan on > prefixing the record ID with a string to keep them unique for > each > source. > > I also have my implementation set up for a consortia in that I > can > search any individual institution from one interface. I used > the > building field in the schema and populated it with a code for > each > institution. I then had to add a field called library to all > of the > links so that if the library field is defined it limits all > searches to > that particular institution. This could also work for you too. > > al > > On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 09:32 -0500, Perry Otis wrote: > > I've set up VuFind with a copy of our bib records for us to > use while > > we are having connectivity issues with our Voyager > server. We also > > have a citation database on our Voyager server that we would > like to > > make available on VuFind. I'd like to set it up so that we > either > > have seperate url's for the two or that users are presented > with the > > two options when they go to the main VuFind url. Can > anybody help me > > in figuring out how to create another mysql database and > having VuFind > > use both databases? Thanks. > > > > Perry > -- > Alan Rykhus > PALS, A Program of the Minnesota State Colleges and > Universities > (507)389-1975 > ala...@mn... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php > _______________________________________________ > VuFind-General mailing list > VuF...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vufind-general > -- Alan Rykhus PALS, A Program of the Minnesota State Colleges and Universities (507)389-1975 ala...@mn... |
From: Andrew N. <and...@vi...> - 2008-06-26 18:18:05
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> -----Original Message----- > From: vuf...@li... [mailto:vufind- > gen...@li...] On Behalf Of Alan Rykhus > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:14 PM > To: VuFind-General > Subject: Re: [VuFind-General] Setting up multiple databases > > The Record displays would be trickier, because the current > implementation of VUFind uses the MARC record to build the displays. > You > would probably have to build a fullrecord with field tags for the > display. Yes - Al is right here. Our plan with VuFind is to be the one-stop shop, however up until now, we have only focused on getting it to work with MARC records. We hope to soon include other content and allow that to work. This will probably take some tweaking of the record display page, etc. Andrew |
From: Perry O. <oti...@gm...> - 2008-06-26 18:45:53
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I guess I wasn't clear. We do use MARC for the citation database, but they aren't completely standard. We also use subject headings, just not LC subject headings, in the 650. So it might work to put them all together, but I'd need some help figuring out how to make it possible to search them separately. On 6/26/08, Andrew Nagy <and...@vi...> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: vuf...@li... [mailto:vufind- > > gen...@li...] On Behalf Of Alan Rykhus > > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:14 PM > > To: VuFind-General > > Subject: Re: [VuFind-General] Setting up multiple databases > > > > The Record displays would be trickier, because the current > > implementation of VUFind uses the MARC record to build the displays. > > You > > would probably have to build a fullrecord with field tags for the > > display. > > Yes - Al is right here. Our plan with VuFind is to be the one-stop shop, > however up until now, we have only focused on getting it to work with MARC > records. We hope to soon include other content and allow that to > work. This will probably take some tweaking of the record display page, > etc. > > Andrew > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php > _______________________________________________ > VuFind-General mailing list > VuF...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vufind-general > |
From: Perry O. <oti...@gm...> - 2008-06-26 18:51:41
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Here's a couple of examples of our citation database MARC records *000* 00659cam0a22002411 450 *001* 4966 *005* 20041208130902.0 *008* 970429m19960304xxuuu p a u0 a eng d *022* __* |a* 0004-2528 *035* __* |9* 10042057 *035* __* |a* 4966 *088* __* |a* 1002 *100* 1_* |a* Maravillas, Glenn R. *222* __* |a* Army Logistician *245* __* |a* AHC (automated headcount) passes `smart card' test *300* __* |a* p9-11* |b* illus *591* __* |a* Mar-Apr 1996 *592* 00* |a* Articles *650* 00* |a* COMPUTERS - Personnel Applications *650* 00* |a* AUTOMATION *650* 00* |a* IDENTIFICATION OF MILITARY PERSONNEL *650* 00* |a* PERSONNEL ADMINISTRATION - Equipment *700* 1_* |a* Andresen, Herbert R. *000* 00454cam0a22001931 450 *001* 10536 *005* 20041215082211.0 *008* 020130d200108 xxuuu p a u0 a eng d *022* __* |a* 0307-1847 *035* __* |9* 10086257 *035* __* |a* 10536 *088* __* |a* 507 *100* 1_* |a* Glenn, Russell W. *222* __* |a* RUSI Journal *245* __* |a* Reading Athena's dance* card***: Against fire in Vietnam *300* __* |a* p98 *590* __* |a* vol 146 no 4 *591* __* |a* Aug 2001 *650* 00* |a* BOOK REVIEWS On 6/26/08, Perry Otis <oti...@gm...> wrote: > > I guess I wasn't clear. We do use MARC for the citation database, but they > aren't completely standard. We also use subject headings, just not LC > subject headings, in the 650. So it might work to put them all together, > but I'd need some help figuring out how to make it possible to search them > separately. > > On 6/26/08, Andrew Nagy <and...@vi...> wrote: >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: vuf...@li... [mailto:vufind- >> > gen...@li...] On Behalf Of Alan Rykhus >> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:14 PM >> > To: VuFind-General >> > Subject: Re: [VuFind-General] Setting up multiple databases >> > >> > The Record displays would be trickier, because the current >> > implementation of VUFind uses the MARC record to build the displays. >> > You >> > would probably have to build a fullrecord with field tags for the >> > display. >> >> Yes - Al is right here. Our plan with VuFind is to be the one-stop shop, >> however up until now, we have only focused on getting it to work with MARC >> records. We hope to soon include other content and allow that to >> work. This will probably take some tweaking of the record display page, >> etc. >> >> Andrew >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. >> It's the best place to buy or sell services for >> just about anything Open Source. >> http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php >> _______________________________________________ >> VuFind-General mailing list >> VuF...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vufind-general >> > > |
From: Andrew N. <and...@vi...> - 2008-06-26 19:45:03
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Perry - I think you should be in a fairly good position since your citations are formatted in MARC. To allow your users to search them separately you will want to change the "collection" field in your import process. With the marc importer, all records get the value "Catalog" in the collection field. I would suggest that you set the collection field to a different value for your other collection. This will allow you to search them separately. However, many of the searches in VuFind search the "Catalog" collection, so you may need to make some changes to the code. We hope to have this fixed by the 1.0 release. Enjoy Andrew From: vuf...@li... [mailto:vuf...@li...] On Behalf Of Perry Otis Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:46 PM To: VuFind-General Subject: Re: [VuFind-General] Setting up multiple databases I guess I wasn't clear. We do use MARC for the citation database, but they aren't completely standard. We also use subject headings, just not LC subject headings, in the 650. So it might work to put them all together, but I'd need some help figuring out how to make it possible to search them separately. On 6/26/08, Andrew Nagy <and...@vi...<mailto:and...@vi...>> wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: vuf...@li...<mailto:vuf...@li...> [mailto:vufind-<mailto:vufind-> > gen...@li...<mailto:gen...@li...>] On Behalf Of Alan Rykhus > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:14 PM > To: VuFind-General > Subject: Re: [VuFind-General] Setting up multiple databases > > The Record displays would be trickier, because the current > implementation of VUFind uses the MARC record to build the displays. > You > would probably have to build a fullrecord with field tags for the > display. Yes - Al is right here. Our plan with VuFind is to be the one-stop shop, however up until now, we have only focused on getting it to work with MARC records. We hope to soon include other content and allow that to work. This will probably take some tweaking of the record display page, etc. Andrew ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php _______________________________________________ VuFind-General mailing list VuF...@li...<mailto:VuF...@li...> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vufind-general |
From: Perry O. <oti...@gm...> - 2008-06-26 21:13:45
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Andrew, I've loaded a few records from our citation db, and changed the value in the collection field (I assume you meant to change it in marcxml2solr.xsl). Now, I can't figure out how to search the new records by collection. Can you tell me what I need to change? Thanks. Perry On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Andrew Nagy <and...@vi...> wrote: > Perry - I think you should be in a fairly good position since your > citations are formatted in MARC. To allow your users to search them > separately you will want to change the "collection" field in your import > process. With the marc importer, all records get the value "Catalog" in the > collection field. I would suggest that you set the collection field to a > different value for your other collection. This will allow you to search > them separately. > > > > However, many of the searches in VuFind search the "Catalog" collection, so > you may need to make some changes to the code. We hope to have this fixed > by the 1.0 release. > > > > Enjoy > > Andrew > > > > *From:* vuf...@li... [mailto: > vuf...@li...] *On Behalf Of *Perry Otis > *Sent:* Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:46 PM > *To:* VuFind-General > *Subject:* Re: [VuFind-General] Setting up multiple databases > > > > I guess I wasn't clear. We do use MARC for the citation database, but they > aren't completely standard. We also use subject headings, just not LC > subject headings, in the 650. So it might work to put them all together, > but I'd need some help figuring out how to make it possible to search them > separately. > > On 6/26/08, *Andrew Nagy* <and...@vi...> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: vuf...@li... [mailto:vufind- > > gen...@li...] On Behalf Of Alan Rykhus > > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:14 PM > > To: VuFind-General > > Subject: Re: [VuFind-General] Setting up multiple databases > > > > The Record displays would be trickier, because the current > > implementation of VUFind uses the MARC record to build the displays. > > You > > would probably have to build a fullrecord with field tags for the > > display. > > Yes - Al is right here. Our plan with VuFind is to be the one-stop shop, > however up until now, we have only focused on getting it to work with MARC > records. We hope to soon include other content and allow that to > work. This will probably take some tweaking of the record display page, > etc. > > Andrew > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php > _______________________________________________ > VuFind-General mailing list > VuF...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vufind-general > > > |
From: Andrew N. <and...@vi...> - 2008-06-26 21:24:02
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If you do a regular search, it will by default search all collections. If you do a blank search - due to current limitations - the blank search gets converted into a collection:Catalog search - showing everything in the catalog collection. So right now there is no mechanism to specify a collection - but you could add an html select box that allows one to choose a collection to search. You would then need to add the value to the query in the buildQuery method in web/sys/SOLR.php file. Andrew From: vuf...@li... [mailto:vuf...@li...] On Behalf Of Perry Otis Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:14 PM To: VuFind-General Subject: Re: [VuFind-General] Setting up multiple databases Andrew, I've loaded a few records from our citation db, and changed the value in the collection field (I assume you meant to change it in marcxml2solr.xsl). Now, I can't figure out how to search the new records by collection. Can you tell me what I need to change? Thanks. Perry On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Andrew Nagy <and...@vi...<mailto:and...@vi...>> wrote: Perry - I think you should be in a fairly good position since your citations are formatted in MARC. To allow your users to search them separately you will want to change the "collection" field in your import process. With the marc importer, all records get the value "Catalog" in the collection field. I would suggest that you set the collection field to a different value for your other collection. This will allow you to search them separately. However, many of the searches in VuFind search the "Catalog" collection, so you may need to make some changes to the code. We hope to have this fixed by the 1.0 release. Enjoy Andrew From: vuf...@li...<mailto:vuf...@li...> [mailto:vuf...@li...<mailto:vuf...@li...>] On Behalf Of Perry Otis Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:46 PM To: VuFind-General Subject: Re: [VuFind-General] Setting up multiple databases I guess I wasn't clear. We do use MARC for the citation database, but they aren't completely standard. We also use subject headings, just not LC subject headings, in the 650. So it might work to put them all together, but I'd need some help figuring out how to make it possible to search them separately. On 6/26/08, Andrew Nagy <and...@vi...<mailto:and...@vi...>> wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: vuf...@li...<mailto:vuf...@li...> [mailto:vufind-<mailto:vufind-> > gen...@li...<mailto:gen...@li...>] On Behalf Of Alan Rykhus > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:14 PM > To: VuFind-General > Subject: Re: [VuFind-General] Setting up multiple databases > > The Record displays would be trickier, because the current > implementation of VUFind uses the MARC record to build the displays. > You > would probably have to build a fullrecord with field tags for the > display. Yes - Al is right here. Our plan with VuFind is to be the one-stop shop, however up until now, we have only focused on getting it to work with MARC records. We hope to soon include other content and allow that to work. This will probably take some tweaking of the record display page, etc. Andrew ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php _______________________________________________ VuFind-General mailing list VuF...@li...<mailto:VuF...@li...> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vufind-general |