Re: [Tuxpaint-i18n] gettext()ification of the website

[Bill K. <nb...@so...>]

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:34:11PM +0200, F Wolff wrote:
> * XML entities make things hard to read. If we could use the literal
> characters and have it converted for us in the code, that would make
> things much nicer to read, translate and review. I understand why the
> non-breaking space is desirable in many cases, but something like
> "BeOS and Haiku" is hard to read, and translators might not be
> familiar with the issue at hand. Forcing all links not to break, could
> also cause some strange layout in languages with long translations (I'm
> just anticipating, of course). There is another reason: people might use
> something like '&' in a translation, so we need to make it HTML safe
> before using translations anyway. Therefore I think it is better to work
> with the assumption that translations won't have correct entities and
> that we'll create them when rendering.

Ok, I think we can live without them.  Is it safe to run PHP's
htmlspecialchars through the results of gettext()?  Or will that botch
up some UTF-8 characters...?


> * computer’s - I'm assuming this is an apostrophe. Please just
> use an apostrophe and encode the page as UTF-8 or whatever you like.
> This is very error prone, and makes reuse, review and translations hard.

Yeah, I don't think it's _necessary_ to have the special quotes, and
I never personally put them in, since it's so tedious.  I'm all for removing
them.


> * In messages like these...
> "Alternatively, the Print option can be limited to allow only one print
> \n
>     every <var>n</var>&nbsp;minutes."
> ... the layout/spacing serves no purpose, and distracts from the
> translation task. (I realise that the goal was probably neat HTML
> layout, but I hope that we realise there are higher goals to aim for.)


Yeah, looks like I forgot to join the lines.


> * "Previewed at" - assume this is lacking a variable for the picture
> size. Some languages might need to have this reordered with the size in
> the middle of the translation.

Yeah, another cases where I need printf(), sorry. :)


> By the way, the file currently stands at 255 messages and 1352 words -
> not too much!

Yeah, but I've only done a few pages, so far.  I'm wondering, since they're
very verbose, and probably less important(?), do you think it would make
sense to do the reviews/user comments/schools using it pages separately?
(as in, in a separate POT?)

Or perhaps it's enough that translators who don't find them important can
just ... not translate them. :)


> I hope this helps.

Yes it does, thanks a lot!

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