#1 Tuxboot fails to create bootable USB image for GParted Live 0.7.1-1

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3 hours ago
2010-12-29
Curtis Gedak
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After using Tuxboot 20101224 to create a USB flash drive with GParted
Live stable (0.7.1-1), the USB flash drive failed to boot. Following
are the steps I used and comments:

ATTEMPT A

1) I started with a working USB flash drive with System Rescue CD
version 1.6.3

2) Next I downloaded GParted Live stable 0.7.1-1 .iso file

3) Then I started Tuxboot and chose the option to use the .iso file.

4) Then I clicked on the button to start the process.

5) When prompted if I wanted to overwrite some already existing files,
I chose "Yes to All".

6) When the process was complete, I rebooted the computer with the
USB flash drive still inserted.

7) The computer booted to a screen that listed details about Syslinux
including the version. Unfortunately nothing happened after this
point, even if I pressed keys such as "Enter".

My guess is that this problem might be related to the GParted Live
image using vmlinuz1 instead of the normal vmlinux file, but this is
just a guess.

ATTEMPT B

For my next attempt I used GParted for reformat the existing FAT32
file system on the USB flash drive. After reformatting, I used steps
2, 3, 4, and 6. When the computer booted, I was shown the following text
on the screen:

 This is not a bootable disk.  Please insert a bootable floppy and
 press any key to try again ...

ATTEMPT C

For my third attempt I tried selecting the Tuxboot option to download
the current GParted Live image without saving of the .iso file. I
then started tuxboot and used steps 4, 5, and 6. When the computer
booted I was again presented with the following text:

 This is not a bootable disk.  Please insert a bootable floppy and
 press any key to try again ...

ATTEMPT D

For my fourth attempt, I thought I would try using all of the default
settings of Tuxboot. This meant using the "Clonezilla Live stable"
download option. I started tuxboot and used steps 4, 5, and 6. When
the computer booted I was again presented with the following text:

 This is not a bootable disk.  Please insert a bootable floppy and
 press any key to try again ...

After all of these attempts I booted back into my kubuntu 8.04 LTS OS
and used GParted to check the USB flash drive. I confirmed that the
file system was still FAT32, and that the "boot" flag was set on the
partition. Previously I have successfully used this 512 MB SanDisk
Mini Cruzer USB flash drive by following the manual instructions for
installing GParted Live.

I can provide more information if you need, and I can also try out
different options that you suggest.

Discussion

  • Steven Shiau
    Steven Shiau
    2010-12-30

    Curtis,
    Thanks for the bug report.
    Did you run tuxboot on MS Windows or GNU/Linux?
    If it's on MS windows, is your USB flash drive seen as a "hard drive", not a "removable device"?
    If so, that's the issue. We are working on this...

    Steven.

     

  • Anonymous
    2010-12-30

    I ran Tuxboot on GNU/Linux. Specifically kubuntu 8.04.4 LTS if that helps.

     
  • Curtis Gedak
    Curtis Gedak
    2010-12-30

    I ran Tuxboot on GNU/Linux. Specifically kubuntu 8.04.4 LTS if that helps.

     
  • Steven Shiau
    Steven Shiau
    2010-12-30

    Curtis,
    Here we do not have any machine running Kubuntu 8.04, so we tried on different GNU/Linux, including Fedora 14, Ubuntu 10.04, 6.06, all worked here...
    The testings include a pre-downloaded GParted live 0.7.1-1, or the automatic downloading iso method.
    Maybe the problem is on the hardware there? Could you please try method B on
    http://gparted.sourceforge.net/liveusb.php#linux-method-b
    ?
    BTW, there is another newer tuxboot was released, but we did not address this issue. You still can give 20101230 version a try though.
    Thanks.
    Steven.

     
  • Curtis Gedak
    Curtis Gedak
    2010-12-30

    Steven,
    The manual method (#linux-method-b) works 100% using kubuntu 8.04. This method has worked for me in the past too.

    I am in the process of installing kubuntu 10.04, which might take a few days. When I am done I can try from this newer GNU/Linus OS. My thoughts are that the problem is not with the OS. Instead I think the problem lies elsewhere.

    In your testing was the USB flash drive empty, or did it have a prior GParted Live or Clonezilla image on it?
    Thanks,
    Curtis

     
  • Steven Shiau
    Steven Shiau
    2010-12-31

    Curtis,
    This is really weird... I still can not reproduce the problem here... No matter the USB flash drive is reformatted, or prior GParted live or Clonezilla image is installed on that...
    Could you please tell me, step by step, in very details so that I can try to reproduce the problem here? It would be even better if you can attach the screen shots of every step.
    Thanks.

    Steven.

     
  • Steven Shiau
    Steven Shiau
    2010-12-31

    BTW, if you can, let's focus on the latest one, i.e. tuxboot 9 released on 20101230.
    Thanks.

    Steven.

     
  • Curtis Gedak
    Curtis Gedak
    2010-12-31

    Thanks for all of your testing Steven. I have done some more testing using Tuxboot-linux-9 (20101230) on my kubuntu 8.04 system. The problem seems to only occur if I start with my USB flash drive having System Rescue CD v1.6.3 on it.

    I have attached screen shots that indicate my progress. The following steps are aligned with the screen shot numbers:

    1) Using the USB stick I manually created previously with GParted Live 0.7.1-1, I started Tuxboot-9-linux and configured the application to create a gparted-live-0.7.1-1.iso image on my USB stick (/dev/sde1). Then I clicked "OK".

    2) While the USB image was being written, I was prompted that some files already existed. I clicked on "Yes to All" to overwrite these.

    3) When the USB image was finished being written, I clicked on "Reboot Now". When the system rebooted, it correctly booted GParted Live 0.7.1-1 from the USB stick.

    4) Next I rebooted into kubuntu 8.04 and wrote the System Rescue CD v1.6.3 image to my USB flash drive using these instructions:
    http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_How_to_install_SystemRescueCd_on_an_USB-stick#A.29_Recommended_USB_installation_method_from_Linux

    I rebooted and confirmed that sysresccd-1.6.3 properly booted from the USB stick.

    Then I rebooted back into kubuntu 8.04.

    Now starting with a working image of sysresccd-1.6.3 on the USB stick, I started Tuxboot-9-linux and configured the application to create a gparted-live-0.7.1.1.iso image on my USB stick (dev/sde1). Then I clicked "OK".

    5) While the USB image was being written, I was prompted that some files already existed. I clicked on "Yes to All" to overwrite these.

    6) When the USB image was finished being written, I clicked on "Reboot Now".

    7) When the system rebooted, it failed to boot past a screen with text indicating a syslinux version. Since there was lots of reflection from my computer monitor I took two pictures of the screen. Hopefully these images are clear enough.

    To summarize the findings of the above steps, it appears that Tuxboot-9-linux is unable to create a bootable GParted Live image on a USB flash drive if the USB flash drive is previously formatted with a System Rescue CD image.

    I can run further tests for more information if you need.

     
  • Curtis Gedak
    Curtis Gedak
    2011-01-05

    Steven,
    Thanks again for your patience trying to reproduce the problem. I now have kubuntu 10.04 LTS installed on my computer.

    I re-downloaded tuxboot-linux-9 and re-ran my tests using kubuntu 10.04. This time the USB stick booted properly into GParted Live. :-)

    Hence the problem only occurs when I use my ubuntu 8.04 installation. This might be something specific to my computer or all ubuntu 8.04 installations. As such I will try these steps using a virtual machine I have set up for ubuntu 8.04 to try to isolate the cause.

    Curtis

     

  • Anonymous
    2011-01-05

    My testing with ubuntu 8.04 in a virtual machine had the same result. The USB stick would not properly boot and stopped at a screen displaying the syslinux version.

    Hence there does appear to be a problem with using tux-boot-9 on Ubuntu 8.04.

    This is indeed a weird problem.

    On a possibly related topic, unetbootin was not available as a package on ubuntu 8.04. I think it first became available on November of 2008 which would make it a candidate for ubuntu 9.04. Perhaps there was a technical reason why it wasn't available as a package earlier. This is just a wild guess though as I have nothing to back up this theory.

    Unetbootin Package for Ubuntu:
    http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/unetbootin

    Unetbootin Package ChangeLog for Ubuntu:
    http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/u/unetbootin/unetbootin_408-1/changelog

     
  • Curtis Gedak
    Curtis Gedak
    2011-01-05

    Using a virtual machine running ubuntu 8.04 I was able to re-confirm the problem. By following the 7 steps listed above, the usb stick failed to boot properly and instead halted on a screen displaying the syslinux version.

    Hence it appears that there is something with ubuntu 8.04 that prevents the proper creation of a usb stick with the gparted-live image using tux-boot-9.

    This is a weird problem.

    On a possibly related note, the unetbootin package was not available on ubuntu 8.04. From the unetbootin package ChangeLog, the package was created on November 2, 2008 which would have made it a candidate for ubuntu 9.04. Perhaps there was a technical reason why the unetbootin package was not available earlier? This is just a guess though because I have no technical data to back up this theory.

    Unetbootin Package for Ubuntu:
    http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/unetbootin

    Unetbootin Package ChangeLog for Ubuntu:
    http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/u/unetbootin/unetbootin_408-1/changelog

     
  • Curtis Gedak
    Curtis Gedak
    2011-02-03

    Hi Steven,

    I apologise for not responding to this earlier. For some reason I did not appear to receive an email indicating that you had responded. I wonder if there is a bug in SF notification when the bug report requires a second page?

    The tuxboot problem has me perplexed too because you have tried the same steps I have used and get a different result than I do. This just doesn't make sense. If I was on your side of solving this problem I would suspect that the person who reported the problem (me) was a little bit crazy. ;-)

    Since the problem has only occurred on my computer, and since (k)ubuntu 8.04 LTS support is only for 3 years (ending this April), perhaps we should not worry too much about this problem.

    If another user reports this same problem then we might look at it again at that time. Otherwise I am at a loss to know what to try next.

     

    • Anonymous
      2011-06-02

      Problem is still in ubuntu 10.04, had to start winxp to use tuxboot :S

       

  • Anonymous
    2011-02-04

    Hi Curtis,
    No problem. Yes, let's wait to see if anyone will report the same problem or not.
    Thanks.

    Steven.

     

  • Anonymous
    2014-04-01

    hi. i have the same problem. no way to make usb stick- gparted to boot. i made the same steps like steven. ( lubuntu13)

     

  • Anonymous
    2014-07-12

    I have the same problem. What is weird is that I didn't change the basic tools used to create the bootable stick: it was previously booting with the same USB stick, the same OS (Win7 x64) and the same OS configuration.

    The only thing I did is to install a bootable Windows 8.1 version on the USB stick using Rufus with GPT for UEFI and FAT32.

    Then I tried to install again tuxboot (Clonezilla) on the same USB stick and it never succeeded in creating a bootable stick, even after a full format of the stick to FAT32.

     

  • Anonymous
    2014-07-13

    Follow-up on the post above: tried routes A to D as above on Windows 8.1 and 7, with 486 and 686 PAE versions (stable versions of clonezilla), UEFI and legacy bios boot. No way for tuxboot to create a bootable stick. I'm always getting the message:

     This is not a bootable disk.  Please insert a bootable floppy and press any
     key to try again ...
    

    Next I downloaded the ISO file and installed it using Rufus with GPT for UEFI, FAT32 and 4k cluster size. Of course this worked and the stick was bootable.

    Issue therefore doesn't seem not to be with the tuxboot files themselves (clonezilla, gparted, etc) but with the third step related to the bootloader installation I guess. Something has changed recently I guess. But I have no clue why it is now failing on that USB stick for both UEFI and legacy boot. It was previously working well on both bios boot configuration without having to care about these settings. Unfortunately I do not have another stick (!) to test on atm.

     


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