Hello, Iwan, and other list members,

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On 8 March 2012 04:32, Iwan Gabovitch <qubodup@googlemail.com> wrote:
Khaled (author of Thabit) replied, that the latin characters stem from IBM Courier[1], so it's perfectly legal! I tried to fix the issues mentioned before [2].

[1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/font/ibm-type1/tree/
[2] http://f.qubodup.net/trigger/consolefont-ibmcourier.png

Let me know whether I should commit the IBM Courier-based console font.

I tried the game with the IBM Courier texture and it looks good. I did not see any stray pixels above any of the letters, even when showing the track countdown comment. That accomplishment is an improvement on the original! When I look closely at the original, during the track countdown the 'i' had a light shadow above it. It's easiest to see when viewing the countdown comment for Lab Rally, possibly because of the light sky colour. The shadow in the original is probably from the 'y' above the 'i' in the texture.


On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Iwan Gabovitch <qubodup@googlemail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Ishmael Turner <ishmael.turner@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow, it must have been a lot of work to come up with all those variations!
I reviewed them quickly, the TLDR version, I like Thabit by a long way
and if the countdown comment could be cleaned up then I would vote for
this one to replace the current font.


<snip reviews>

 
Thanks a lot for reviewing all these! Note: I can easily remove the dots inside of zeros. I find them disturbing as well. Let me know if you would like me to try that for a font.

No need, I should have mentioned I didn't like the look of the sans fonts. I think these Courier based variations look better.


I took a look at Thabit's license file [1] and it mentions that IBM owns the latin characters. I emailed the author, asking for the name of the IBM font, to make sure it's license is OK.


While re-reading about Courier, I noticed that Nimbus Mono L is supposed to be a freely licensed drop-in replacement for the font, so I tried a version with it [2].


I noticed that the current font used by Trigger Rally seems to be identical, so I think we've been using a freely licensed one all along but just forgot that fact :) I will update the license file.

Please check whether you prefer the current Nimbus Mono L or the version I linked above. I will get back at you regarding Thabit, should I receive a reply from the author.

Good detective work! I compared the textures you provided of Nimbus Mono L and IBM Courier to the original.

At first I had thought the grunge look of the original texture must have been part of the font it was based on. Now I've thought about it, it is mainly just that the letter baselines don't line up and that the letter shapes don't have much anti-aliasing. So that part of the look was most likely added in when creating the texture.

To my eye the shape of the capital 'T' in the original closely matches the IBM Courier texture. Have a look at how the serifs are a bit longer in IBM Courier. However, the '0' with the strangely flattened right side in the original looks like a closer match to Nimbus Mono L. I'd consider the shape of the 'T' to be stronger evidence.

We haven't considered whether the original source font was Microsoft's Courier New. I had a look at Microsoft Courier New and its 'T' shape was the same as Trigger's original font and IBM Courier. So there isn't really any certainty about the original except that it was a Courier based font.

Go ahead and check in the IBM Courier based texture. It looks good and clears up the licensing.


Regards,
Ishmael.