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New Track: Lab Rally

qubodup
2012-02-01
2012-10-11
  • Liviu Andronic
    Liviu Andronic
    2012-02-01

    I found it funny enough. :) Please check in, along with Eversnake and
    Smallswirl. All your tracks are very nice.

    As for the licence, I'm no expert, but I believe it's not judicious to release
    under Public domain for the simple reason that you forfeit your copyright (see
    the Wiki), and (I think I read it somewhere) that it may be incompatible with
    GPL. As for inclusion in Trigger, the tracks must be GPL: Debian is unhappy
    with the CC licences, and will likely snort at Public Domain.

     
  • Liviu Andronic
    Liviu Andronic
    2012-02-01

    I tested a bit more, and I'd have a request: is it possible to make the wavy
    left-hand portion of the track (after the second cp) a genuine alternative to
    the right-hand portion? I tried with both the Ford and the Mitsubishi, and the
    left-hand side is just too slow, and the best I can do is to reach the
    penultimate cp before time expires.

    It would be much nicer if the left-hand side weren't so slow (less corners, I
    suppose) or if the time-limit were more generous, so that one could complete
    the track using the left portion.

     
  • qubodup
    qubodup
    2012-02-01

    Glad you like it!

    I got commit access with the intention that I help clear files license-wise.
    Because of that I am shy about adding content that has nothing to do with
    cleaning licenses. I still have no clue what the developer hierarchy in
    Trigger Rally is. When you (landroni) say I can commit, then it's fine?

    I hope this question feels less less weird when reading than it feels when
    writing. :)

    About changing the track: My intention was that the segment you describe is a
    challenge at navigation/planning. the left path is not supposed to be possible
    to do in the time given.

    About licenses: I can file it under GPL then. Two resources show that PD is
    fine for Debian. CC-BY-SA v3 too by the way.
    http://www.debian.org/legal/licenses/
    http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html
    http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses

     
  • Liviu Andronic
    Liviu Andronic
    2012-02-01

    I guess Jasmine is best placed to answer this, but I'll give it a try.
    Jasmine is the original copyright holder and project admin. Recently Ishmael
    and I joined the development team, and Jasmine effectively gave us free hand
    as long as there was a consensus between the two of us, while we confirmed
    with her for potentially contentious changes. We regularly seek her input, so
    I don't really worry about undesired modifications; moreover, there is also
    SVN blame (or praise, depending on the viewpoint), and revisions can be
    reverted.
    I would have preferred to have Ishmael's input regarding your tracks, but he
    seems a bit busy right now; otherwise, the tracks are pretty much of excellent
    quality so I have no qualms letting them in (Smallswirl is kick-ass!). What
    concerns your commit rights, I'm pretty sure (Jasmine, please correct me if
    I'm wrong) that you're welcome as a core developer, as long as commit
    decisions/confirmations pass via the devel ML. Your contributions are already
    much appreciated.

    Regarding teh track, I won't insist much on this point: I was thinking that it
    might be more entertaining if the left part was kept almost as wavy as it is
    now, but still allowing to finish the track with ~2sec left in a Ford
    (considering that the main track can be completed with ~10sec left). But I may
    be miscalculating and it's indeed not possible to keep the wavy lines and
    allow to complete the track on the left-side.

    As for the licences, it would seem that I got my information wrong. Still,
    Jasmine had trouble in the past because the tracks were licensed un a CC
    licence; she had to switch all files to GPL to get them accepted in Debian.
    And I remember reading that something in the public domain cannot be
    subsequently re-licensed under GPL.

     
  • Jasmine Kent
    Jasmine Kent
    2012-02-01

    Thanks again for the new maps! landroni's answer is quite right. I'm happy for
    you to commit with an "LGTM" from one other developer.

    Yes, it was a Debian maintainer that originally suggested we move to GPL
    licencing instead of CC-BY for binary assets. IANAL, but from what I've read
    online, CC0 / Public Domain is actually GPL compatible and so should not be a
    problem.

     
  • qubodup
    qubodup
    2012-02-02

    Thanks for clarifying all this! I commited eversnake and smallswirl.

    About lab rally: It was supposed to be a kind of smarty-pants way of saying
    "look at the map, don't just randomly drive around!". But on the other hand
    it's not that funny and intentionally confusing the player is useless, unless
    there's a good joke at the end :)

    I'll try to create a version in which there are two paths but both are
    possible to do in the time given.

     
  • Liviu Andronic
    Liviu Andronic
    2012-02-02

    About lab rally: now the left-hand side portion makes more sense. Thanks for
    explaining.