From: <M.H...@ja...> - 2001-01-25 10:44:15
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Hi folks, no one seems to care, every question seems to be answered, and all = of you know everything about our project. Fine. So there's actually no=20 need for it, but I've combined the FAQ with an older mini-FAQ... for the=20 unlikely case that anyone has a question that is not in this FAQ please=20 mail me... but I don't think this will happen <frustration !> Marc <--- who'd be happy to actually get some HELP from someone = ! PS: Fuck Lotus Notes ! Sorry, attaching didn't work, I had to import it in = this mail :-( <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"CONTENT-TYPE" CONTENT=3D"text/html;=20 charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <TITLE>The 3Dsia Project</TITLE> <META NAME=3D"GENERATOR" CONTENT=3D"StarOffice/5.2 (Linux)"> <META NAME=3D"CREATED" CONTENT=3D"20010125;11360000"> <META NAME=3D"CHANGEDBY" CONTENT=3D"Marc Haisenko"> <META NAME=3D"CHANGED" CONTENT=3D"20010125;11360000"> <STYLE> <!-- @page { margin-left: 1.25in; margin-right: 1.25in;=20 margin-top: 1in; margin-bottom: 1in } H3 { margin-bottom: 0.08in; font-family: "helvetica",=20 sans-serif } H2 { margin-bottom: 0.08in; font-family: "helvetica",=20 sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; font-style: italic } H1 { margin-bottom: 0.08in; font-family: "helvetica",=20 sans-serif; font-size: 16pt } P { margin-bottom: 0.08in } --> </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <H1 ALIGN=3DCENTER><A NAME=3D"1.The3DsiaProject|outline"></A><A=20 HREF=3D"http://threedsia.sourceforge.net/">The 3Dsia Project</A></H1> <H2 ALIGN=3DCENTER><A=20 NAME=3D"1.1.FrequentlyAskedQuestions|outline"></A>Frequently Asked Questions</H2> <DIV ID=3D"Inhaltsverzeichnis1"> <DIV ID=3D"Inhaltsverzeichnis1=5FHead"> <P STYLE=3D"margin-top: 0.17in; page-break-after:=20 avoid"><FONT FACE=3D"helvetica, sans-serif"><FONT SIZE=3D4 STYLE=3D"font-si= ze:=20 16pt"><B>Content</B></FONT></FONT></P> </DIV> <P STYLE=3D"margin-bottom: 0in"><A=20 HREF=3D"#1.The3DsiaProject|outline">The 3Dsia Project</A></P> <P STYLE=3D"margin-left: 0.2in; margin-bottom: 0in"><A=20 HREF=3D"#1.1.FrequentlyAskedQuestions|outline">Frequently Asked Questions</A></P> <P STYLE=3D"margin-left: 0.39in; margin-bottom: 0in"><A=20 HREF=3D"#1.1.1.Introduction:|outline">Introduction:</A></P> <P STYLE=3D"margin-left: 0.39in; margin-bottom: 0in"><A=20 HREF=3D"#1.1.2.Joiningtheproject:|outline">Joining the project:</A></P> <P STYLE=3D"margin-left: 0.39in; margin-bottom: 0in"><A=20 HREF=3D"#1.1.3.Joiningthemailing-list:|outline">Joining the mailing-list:</A></P> <P STYLE=3D"margin-left: 0.39in; margin-bottom: 0in"><A=20 HREF=3D"#1.1.4.Accessingoursource:|outline">Accessing our source:</A></P> <P STYLE=3D"margin-left: 0.2in; margin-bottom: 0in"><A=20 HREF=3D"#1.2.GeneralProjectQuestions|outline">General Project Questions</A></P> <P STYLE=3D"margin-left: 0.39in; margin-bottom: 0in"><A=20 HREF=3D"#1.2.1.Q:Areyougoingtowriteawindow-managerlike3Dwm?|outline">Q: Are you going to write a window-manager like 3Dwm ?</A></P> <P STYLE=3D"margin-left: 0.39in; margin-bottom: 0in"><A=20 HREF=3D"#1.2.2.Q:Onwhichplatformswill3Dsiarun?|outline">Q: On which platforms will 3Dsia run ?</A></P> <P STYLE=3D"margin-left: 0.39in; margin-bottom: 0in"><A=20 HREF=3D"#1.2.3.Q:WillIbeabletouseinsertyoufavoriteappherewith3Dsia?|outline= ">Q: Will I be able to use <insert you favorite app here> with 3Dsia ?</A></P> <P STYLE=3D"margin-left: 0.39in; margin-bottom: 0in"><A=20 HREF=3D"#1.2.4.Q:Whyareyoudoingthis?|outline">Q: Why are you doing this ?</A></P> </DIV> <P STYLE=3D"margin-bottom: 0in"><BR> </P> <H3><A NAME=3D"1.1.1.Introduction:|outline"></A><SPAN=20 STYLE=3D"text-decoration: none">Introduction:</SPAN></H3> <P> This document is meant as a guide for new project members. It does not discuss our project goals or the likes, but only technical problems. For further informations about us and our goals visit <A=20 HREF=3D"http://threedsia.sourceforge.net/">our homepage</A>.</P> <P><BR><BR> </P> <H3><A NAME=3D"1.1.2.Joiningtheproject:|outline"></A>Joining the project:</H3> <P> If you want to join us, then you have to create an account on <A HREF=3D"http://sourceforge.net/">SourceForge</A>. After that, please write a mail to either <A HREF=3D"mailto:xa...@bl...">Xandi</A> or <A HREF=3D"mailto:ax...@cu...">Marc</A>. The next step is then to sign up on our mailing-list.</P> <P><BR><BR> </P> <H3><A NAME=3D"1.1.3.Joiningthemailing-list:|outline"></A>Joining the mailing-list:</H3> <P> The <A=20 HREF=3D"mailto:thr...@li...">mailing-list</A> is our main communication organ. To join it, you have to visit <A=20 HREF=3D"http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/threedsia-dev">this page</A> and enter your e-mail adress and choose a password (for unsubscribing). If you <A=20 HREF=3D"mailto:thr...@li...">write a mail to the list</A>, then it will be forwarded to everyone who has subscribed to the list.</P> <P> Sometimes traffic can be up to 20 mails per day or more, sometimes several days pass by without a single mail. I highly recommend you to add a directory to you mail program if it understands such things and add a filter, so all your incoming 3Dsia list mails are in one place.</P> <P><BR><BR> </P> <H3><A NAME=3D"1.1.4.Accessingoursource:|outline"></A>Accessing our source:</H3> <P> Our source code is managed by a versioning tool called CVS, which is the standard versioning tool in the Internet (Windows users may know Visual SourceSafe, which is the Microsoft way of doing versioning). There are two ways to access our CVS repository: anonymous (read-only) and developer (read-write) access. If you like to contribute code/patches/documentations, you're likely to need write access. If so, write a mail to either <A=20 HREF=3D"mailto:xa...@bl...">Xandi</A> or <A HREF=3D"mailto:ax...@cu...">Marc</A> asking for developer access (don't forget to mention you SourceForge account name, we need this one to give you write-access).</P> <P> No matter what platform you are using, you will need a CVS client. On most Linux computers there is already one installed. If you find a good CVS client for your platform, please <A=20 HREF=3D"mailto:ax...@cu...">let me know</A> so I can add it to this FAQ.</P> <P> To get detailed informations about how to access our CVS, <A=20 HREF=3D"http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group=5Fid=3D586">see this page</A>. Our current module is named 'base', so you would do <B><I>cvs co base</I></B> if your CVS is set up correctly. For all Linux users, there is <A=20 HREF=3D"http://user.cu-muc.de/axl/get3DsiaAnonymously">a script</A> that gets the source anonymously.</P> <P><BR><BR> </P> <P><BR><BR> </P> <H2 ALIGN=3DCENTER><A NAME=3D"1.2.GeneralProjectQuestions|outline"></A>Gene= ral Project Questions</H2> <P ALIGN=3DCENTER>a.k.a What the heck are you doing ?</P> <P><BR><BR> </P> <H3><A=20 NAME=3D"1.2.1.Q:Areyougoingtowriteawindow-managerlike3Dwm?|outline"></A> Q: Are you going to write a window-manager like 3Dwm ?</H3> <P>A: No. Window-managers are for flat windowing systems. <beef> (Flat) windows are EVIL </beef> Instead we like to create a whole universe where everything is possible. If you like to=20 "port" a flat window to 3Dsia, you may do so, but it is not our design goal.</P> <P><BR><BR> </P> <H3><A NAME=3D"1.2.2.Q:Onwhichplatformswill3Dsiarun?|outline"></A>Q: On which platforms will 3Dsia run ?</H3> <P>A: We hope to make it work on any platform. Because we are using C++ as programming language, virtually every OS can be supported. However, it depends on the developers and their knowledge about writing programs under certains OS's... plans are to support UNIX-systems like Linux, M$-Windows and maybe even BeOS and MacOS (MacOS X has a unix kernel, so this shouldn't be too hard)</P> <P><BR><BR> </P> <H3><A=20 NAME=3D"1.2.3.Q:WillIbeabletouseinsertyoufavoriteappherewith3Dsia?|outline"= ></A> Q: Will I be able to use <insert you favorite app here> with 3Dsia ?</H3> <P>A: If you're using X-Window, chances may be good. We plan to implement a X-Window server to run legacy apps in 3Dsia. But to do so, 3Dsia itself must be created first. But don't forget: this would be a hack, not a solution ! The solution would be to write a 3Dsia-app for the task you app is doing.</P> <P><BR><BR> </P> <H3><A NAME=3D"1.2.4.Q:Whyareyoudoingthis?|outline"></A>Q: Why are you doing this ?</H3> <P>A: Because noone else does ;-) We think it is time to move on from the 2-dimensional user-interfaces to 3-dimensional, as many applications would become more usable and easier to understand in 3-dimensional representation. Just imagine: instead of L*tus N*tes or Outl**k it would be much easier for a newbie to handle if you had a desk with some letters on it, which you can just grab and read like youke in the films <I>The Lawnmover Man</I> or <I>Johnny Mnemonic</I> (twisting an object around in a special way instead of typing in a password).</P> <P><BR><BR> </P> </BODY> </HTML> --- Marc Haisenko Development JANET GmbH -the 3D business company- Garmischer Str.19/21 81377 M=FCnchen Phone: +49 (89) / 54 26 21 - 0 Fax: +49 (89) / 54 26 21 - 15 mailto: mha...@ja... http://www.janet.de |