Thank Benito and Tim for your exciting updates!

I just want to highlight one point besides the handwriting recognization -- integrated Freehand Drawing panel and pasting functions maybe helpful for users. To be specific, I mean, providing a panel of tools in the UI to the users to draw graphs or whatelse, and to insert the drawing/data into the tex easily. I know Inlage (sorry for the confusion in my last post) has integrated the sketch panel based on Win 7, and are working on providing more advanced panels and features. Their next version will allow users to paste graphs/equations/tables from the integrated panels or the interfaces of other softwares. I think those features are awful and maybe not too hard to realize. Possibly you can get some ideas from those thoughts if it worths.

Regards,
Xiaodong




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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:08:53 +0200
From: Benito van der Zander <benito@benibela.de>
Subject: Re: [TeXstudio-list] Feature request for tablet users
To: texstudio-list@lists.sourceforge.net
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Hi,
> I sincerely wish TeXstudio developer groups can consider to develop
> similar or better tools integrated in the TeXstudio framework, so that
> the users can draw graphs and hand-written equations, and insert them
> conveniently without moving to another software
Yeah, that would be a cool feature.

I have thought about something like that, first just for symbols, then
later for equations...
(and at the end it could even have an export function to a CAS and that
will show the solution to every written equation)
requires much time and hardware.

But that requires a lot of time and hardware (I used to have a
screen-less write-only tablet, but than I lend it to my brother and he
broke it immediately. Really annoying)!, so I don't think I'm going to
add it within the next years...

Of course, as always, patches for it are welcome :)


> Software or apps like Inlarg and TeXTablet  have been developed to
> adapt to the handwriting and freehand drawing era. But the current
> software are either commercial or too weak to be propagated to the
> large LaTeX user community
Too weak indeed.
TeXTablet is not platform independent, and Inlarg I can't even find
(only viagra ads and your forum post turn up in google)

Detexify is better, but online only. When it came out, I asked the
author, if there was an offline version (planned), but it was not, and
now that project seems to be dead :(

> I appreciate your efforts on making a lot of symbols visible as ions
> in TeXstudio.

Actually there are now so many symbols, that it has become really hard
to find the one
you are looking for...


Benito

On 09/09/2012 07:32 AM, Xiaodong Qi wrote:
> Dear TeXstudio developers,
>
> I am so grateful for all your efforts to perfect the TeXstudio editor
> that I would like to post my request on improving this editor. As you
> may have noticed that more and more computer users switched to
> Tablets, or penable/touchable devices to complete their daily lives
> for researching, notes-taking, writing and studying. For example, I
> personally use ThinkPad X61 Tablet to finish all my academic
> computer-based activities. I can use stylus to take notes and draw
> sketches freely while taking lectures or preparing houdouts. If our
> developers are looking at a promising future, I think a friendly LaTeX
> interface for tablet users is a good idea for the next improvement
> beyond traditional LaTeX editors.
>
> I notice that some efforts have been started in some small groups.
> Software or apps like Inlarg and TeXTablet  have been developed to
> adapt to the handwriting and freehand drawing era. But the current
> software are either commercial or too weak to be propagated to the
> large LaTeX user community. I sincerely wish TeXstudio developer
> groups can consider to develop similar or better tools integrated in
> the TeXstudio framework, so that the users can draw graphs and
> hand-written equations, and insert them conveniently without moving to
> another software. Notice that, this improvement can also benefit the
> general LaTeX users in many ways.
>
> I appreciate your efforts on making a lot of symbols visible as ions
> in TeXstudio. I think your goal is to make the software easy to be
> used in various ways and for various groups of users. Since there have
> already been some codes can be borrowed in the open source community,
> I think it is not too hard to develop those features. I hope my
> proposal is in the same direction as the TeXstudio community is
> struggling in, and feasible for the next feature to be added into the
> software.
>
> Best regards,
> Xiaodong
>
>
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 02:09:20 +0200
From: "Tim Hoffmann" <hoffmann@hiskp.uni-bonn.de>
Subject: Re: [TeXstudio-list] Feature request for tablet users
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I just wrote a wrapper around TeXTablet. Of course it's only Win7, but
better at least here than nowhere at all. On other platforms it will just
not be an option in the UI, so it won't disturb there. And it pops up as a
separate window, apart from this, workflow is smooth.

Will soon be in the SVN.

Using the Math Input Panel of Win7 saves 95% of the work. That's why I could
manage with reasonable effort. As Benito said, everything else will cost a
lot of time. Therefore, there is nothing planned further into that direction
also from my side.

Tim

>Hi,
>> I sincerely wish TeXstudio developer groups can consider to develop
>> similar or better tools integrated in the TeXstudio framework, so that
>> the users can draw graphs and hand-written equations, and insert them
>> conveniently without moving to another software
>Yeah, that would be a cool feature.
>
>I have thought about something like that, first just for symbols, then
>later for equations...
>(and at the end it could even have an export function to a CAS and that
>will show the solution to every written equation)
>requires much time and hardware.
>
>But that requires a lot of time and hardware (I used to have a
>screen-less write-only tablet, but than I lend it to my brother and he
>broke it immediately. Really annoying)!, so I don't think I'm going to
>add it within the next years...
>
>Of course, as always, patches for it are welcome :)
>
>
>> Software or apps like Inlarg and TeXTablet  have been developed to
>> adapt to the handwriting and freehand drawing era. But the current
>> software are either commercial or too weak to be propagated to the
>> large LaTeX user community
>Too weak indeed.
>TeXTablet is not platform independent, and Inlarg I can't even find
>(only viagra ads and your forum post turn up in google)
It's Inlage (www.inlage.com). As far as I know, it also uses the Math Input
Panel of Windows 7.


>Detexify is better, but online only. When it came out, I asked the
>author, if there was an offline version (planned), but it was not, and
>now that project seems to be dead :(
There's a successor project (https://github.com/kirel/sketch-a-char) but
it's also inactive for some time.

>> I appreciate your efforts on making a lot of symbols visible as ions
>> in TeXstudio.
>
>Actually there are now so many symbols, that it has become really hard
>to find the one
>you are looking for...

I also thought about this. One could make a search and filters, but it's
hard to categorize and tag the symbols meaningfully. Therefore I don't think
it'd be much of a use and it's not worth the effort. You'd really need
something like Detexify.


>Benito
>
>On 09/09/2012 07:32 AM, Xiaodong Qi wrote:
>> Dear TeXstudio developers,
>>
>> I am so grateful for all your efforts to perfect the TeXstudio editor
>> that I would like to post my request on improving this editor. As you
>> may have noticed that more and more computer users switched to
>> Tablets, or penable/touchable devices to complete their daily lives
>> for researching, notes-taking, writing and studying. For example, I
>> personally use ThinkPad X61 Tablet to finish all my academic
>> computer-based activities. I can use stylus to take notes and draw
>> sketches freely while taking lectures or preparing houdouts. If our
>> developers are looking at a promising future, I think a friendly LaTeX
>> interface for tablet users is a good idea for the next improvement
>> beyond traditional LaTeX editors.
>>
>> I notice that some efforts have been started in some small groups.
>> Software or apps like Inlarg and TeXTablet  have been developed to
>> adapt to the handwriting and freehand drawing era. But the current
>> software are either commercial or too weak to be propagated to the
>> large LaTeX user community. I sincerely wish TeXstudio developer
>> groups can consider to develop similar or better tools integrated in
>> the TeXstudio framework, so that the users can draw graphs and
>> hand-written equations, and insert them conveniently without moving to
>> another software. Notice that, this improvement can also benefit the
>> general LaTeX users in many ways.
>>
>> I appreciate your efforts on making a lot of symbols visible as ions
>> in TeXstudio. I think your goal is to make the software easy to be
>> used in various ways and for various groups of users. Since there have
>> already been some codes can be borrowed in the open source community,
>> I think it is not too hard to develop those features. I hope my
>> proposal is in the same direction as the TeXstudio community is
>> struggling in, and feasible for the next feature to be added into the
>> software.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Xiaodong
>>
>>
>>
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