#160 Alignment and documentation of sound files

Lou Burnard
Lou Burnard

Bertrand Gaiffe asks whether the <recording> element is the best place to store information about the actual sound files in which a recording is stored. There may be several of them for a given recording, and there is no obvious structured way of recording this, and aligning particular parts of a transcript with the relevant files.

He also points out that there is a parallel with the way that images are stored, and associated with a transcript.

Maybe something like the <facsimile> element would be appropriate?

en réfléchissant à l'encodage de l'oral, je suis tombé sur le problème
suivant :

- on peut avoir plusieurs <recording> (si on a plusieurs fichiers sons)
- on peut avoir plusieurs fichiers sons

PB : on veut faire le lien entre un <recording> particulier et un
fichier son particulier.

Normalement, les gens des manuscripts pourraient avoir le même problème...
Ils ont les images d'un manuscripts particulier,
Ils encodent à coup d'appareil critique en faisant référence à plusieurs
manuscripts (définis dans le header).
PB : comment disent-ils que leurs images sont celles de tel manuscript
précis (parmis ceux qui sont référencés dans le header).Et ce à supposer
qu'ils n'aient d'images que d'un seul....

Si la réponse existe pour les manuscripts, elle doit pouvoir se
transposer pour l'oral ; d'où ma question.


  • Lou Burnard
    Lou Burnard

    • milestone: --> RED
  • Piotr Banski
    Piotr Banski

    Would the discussion benefit from Thomas Schmidt's suggestions in his jTEI paper at http://jtei.revues.org/142 ?

  • James Cummings
    James Cummings

    • assigned_to: nobody --> martindholmes
  • Laurent Romary
    Laurent Romary

    For the record Thomas Schmidt would be eager to coordinate an ISO tc 37 sc 4 project on a TEI customization covering features available in Elan, Exmeralda, Anvil, etc. TEI experts should definitely join. Still in preparation/discussion, but the earlier people raise their hands to contribute, the better.

  • Martin Holmes
    Martin Holmes

    This is assigned to me, so I'll be happy to be involved, although I wouldn't describe myself as an expert -- I don't know anything about Elan, Exmeralda or Anvil. If there are folks who do, please put your hands up.

  • Kevin Hawkins
    Kevin Hawkins

    In April 2012 Technical Council meeting, it was decided that James Cummings would write to TEI-L asking for people who are interested in participating in a work group on this and on http://purl.org/tei/fr/2724997 . This group should report back to Council with a proposal for discussion at a later meeting.

    But now see http://purl.org/tei/fr/3597335 .

  • Syd Bauman
    Syd Bauman

    Lou Burnard to follow up with group as to their draft “useful document”. See also https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/feature-requests/176/ , which has been closed / merged with this ticket (per Martin Holmes).

    Last edit: Syd Bauman 2013-11-13
  • Syd Bauman
    Syd Bauman

    • assigned_to: Martin Holmes --> Lou Burnard
    • Priority: 5 --> 1(low)
  • Martin Holmes
    Martin Holmes

    Looking at this bit of the document:


    which deals with <annotatedU>, I see this:

    "Although the use of <annotatedU> is optional, it is not allowed to mix <annotatedU> and <u> elements on the top level - i.e. as soon as one <annotatedU> element is used, all <u> elements have to be wrapped inside an <annotatedU> element."

    Why so harsh? If you have 50 utterances and you only need to annotate one of them, why would you need to nest all the others inside <annotatedU> elements? Or have I misunderstood?

  • Lou Burnard
    Lou Burnard

    • status: open --> closed
  • Lou Burnard
    Lou Burnard

    Closing this ticket since the original issue has been addressed and work on the ISO proposal is being tracked elsewhere.