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[smartmontools-support]Mandrake Support

[Erwan V. <er...@ma...>]

Hi, I'm the packager of Smartmontools at MandrakeSoft and I don't
understand why you consider mandrake as unsupported whereas it works and
regulary released.

5.1.22 has been built this morning :)
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Linux Cluster Distribution Project Manager
MandrakeSoft
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Phone Number : +33 (0) 1 40 41 17 94
Fax Number   : +33 (0) 1 40 41 92 00
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Re: [smartmontools-support]Q for FAQ?

[Bruce A. <ba...@gr...>]

Hi Scott,

> Q1: Is there a command line to create a separate log (with rotations)  
> for SMART messages?  (Separate from "/var/log/messages" perhaps:  
> "SMARTlog.2" etc.)

It's a good question - but I don't know the answer.  This may be possible.
You need to read:

  man syslogd
  man syslog.conf
  man logwatch
 
> Q2: If not, is that planned for future releases?

Not currently.  I think you can do this with existing tools like logwatch.

Bruce

[smartmontools-support]Q for FAQ?

[Scott R. <sco...@ov...>]

First of all, thank you for putting smartd in the universe.

I discovered it as a series of lines in /var/log/messages after my 
systems consultant upgraded my servers to RedHat 9.  At first I wanted 
to turn it off, but 2 seconds later decided that the information had 
value, even if it made a lot of entries on /var/log/messages.

So:

Q1: Is there a command line to create a separate log (with rotations) 
for SMART messages?  (Separate from "/var/log/messages" perhaps: 
"SMARTlog.2" etc.)

Q2: If not, is that planned for future releases?

All the best,
Scott

PS While I make my living supporting Windows machines, I'm still pretty 
dangerous around Linux boxes.  If my question reads as clueless, that's 
my excuse and I'm sticking with it.

_________________________________________________________________
       You can do anything, but you can't do everything.

Re: [smartmontools-support]SATA drives and smartd

[Bruce A. <ba...@gr...>]

I've updated the smartmontools web page, to read as follows:

Smartmontools should work correctly with SATA drives under both linux 2.4
and 2.6 kernels, if you use the standard IDE drivers in drivers/ide. If
you use the new libata drivers, it won't work correctly because libata
doesn't yet support the needed ATA-passthrough ioctl() calls. Jeff Garzik,
the libata developer, says that this support will be added in the future.
When this happens, we'll add support to smartmontools for a new
SATA/libata device type '-d sata'.

Cheers,
	Bruce

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Jon Smirl wrote:

> Originally the 2.6 kernel was treating SATA drives like IDE ones and using the
> IDE driver. smartd worked with this. Now the kernel has been reworked (as of
> today) to handle SATA drives with the SCSI driver (this is being done to 2.4
> too). I can't figure out how to make smartd work with the new driver. My disk
> has moved from /dev/hde to /dev/sda. Please CC me, I am not subscribed.
> 
> Current log with this smartd.conf
> /dev/hda -a -m jon...@ya...
> /dev/sda -d scsi -m jon...@ya...
> 
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Device: /dev/hda, is SMART capable. Adding
> to "monitor" list.
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel:   Vendor: ATA       Model: ST380013AS        Rev:
> 0.75
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI
> SCSI revision: 05
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Device: /dev/sda, opened
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel: SCSI device sda: 156301488 512-byte hdwr sectors
> (80026 MB)
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Device: /dev/sda, Fetch of IEC (SMART) mode
> page failed, err=3, skip device
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write through
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Unable to register SCSI device /dev/sda at
> line 23 of file /etc/smartd.conf
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel:  sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 < sda5 sda6 sda7 >
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Unable to register device /dev/sda -
> exiting.
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel: Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0,
> lun 0
> 
> 
> Old log:
> 
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Device: /dev/hda, is SMART capable. Adding
> to "monitor" list.
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256,
> MD_SB_DISKS=27
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Device: /dev/hde, opened
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: md: raid1 personality registered as nr 3
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Device: /dev/hde, not found in smartd
> database.
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data
> mode.
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Device: /dev/hde, is SMART capable. Adding
> to "monitor" list.
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: Freeing unused kernel memory: 152k freed
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Started monitoring 2 ATA and 0 SCSI devices
> 
> 
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[smartmontools-support]smartmontools 5.22 released

[Bruce A. <ba...@gr...>]

Smartmontools 5.22 has been released at:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=64297

This release of smartmontools contains (experimental) support for Solaris
(SCSI devices only).  For other details please see the release notes and
change log at the URL above.

Bruce Allen

Re: [smartmontools-support]SATA drives and smartd

[Bruce A. <ba...@gr...>]

Jon,

Please keep CCing the smartmontools-support list in your replies, so that
we have a record there.

Could you please try an experiment?  Try accessing the device as you are
doing, but use -d ata to tell smartmontools that it's an ATA device:
  smartctl -d ata -a /dev/sda
to access the disk that used to be /dev/hde, for example.

If this works, the corresponding smartd.conf entry would also have
-d ata for /dev/sda.

Please try this with a current smartmontools release, not an old release,
since I think at least at one point something was broken and you couldn't
over-ride the device type like this.

Cheers,
	Bruce




On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Jon Smirl wrote:

> Originally the 2.6 kernel was treating SATA drives like IDE ones and using the
> IDE driver. smartd worked with this. Now the kernel has been reworked (as of
> today) to handle SATA drives with the SCSI driver (this is being done to 2.4
> too). I can't figure out how to make smartd work with the new driver. My disk
> has moved from /dev/hde to /dev/sda. Please CC me, I am not subscribed.
> 
> Current log with this smartd.conf
> /dev/hda -a -m jon...@ya...
> /dev/sda -d scsi -m jon...@ya...
> 
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Device: /dev/hda, is SMART capable. Adding
> to "monitor" list.
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel:   Vendor: ATA       Model: ST380013AS        Rev:
> 0.75
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI
> SCSI revision: 05
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Device: /dev/sda, opened
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel: SCSI device sda: 156301488 512-byte hdwr sectors
> (80026 MB)
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Device: /dev/sda, Fetch of IEC (SMART) mode
> page failed, err=3, skip device
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write through
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Unable to register SCSI device /dev/sda at
> line 23 of file /etc/smartd.conf
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel:  sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 < sda5 sda6 sda7 >
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Unable to register device /dev/sda -
> exiting.
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel: Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0,
> lun 0
> 
> 
> Old log:
> 
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Device: /dev/hda, is SMART capable. Adding
> to "monitor" list.
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256,
> MD_SB_DISKS=27
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Device: /dev/hde, opened
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: md: raid1 personality registered as nr 3
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Device: /dev/hde, not found in smartd
> database.
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data
> mode.
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Device: /dev/hde, is SMART capable. Adding
> to "monitor" list.
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: Freeing unused kernel memory: 152k freed
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Started monitoring 2 ATA and 0 SCSI devices
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [smartmontools-support]SATA drives and smartd

[Bruce A. <ba...@gr...>]

Hi Jon,

I'm not sure what's going on -- I'll try to find out and let you know.

Bruce

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Jon Smirl wrote:

> Originally the 2.6 kernel was treating SATA drives like IDE ones and using the
> IDE driver. smartd worked with this. Now the kernel has been reworked (as of
> today) to handle SATA drives with the SCSI driver (this is being done to 2.4
> too). I can't figure out how to make smartd work with the new driver. My disk
> has moved from /dev/hde to /dev/sda. Please CC me, I am not subscribed.
> 
> Current log with this smartd.conf
> /dev/hda -a -m jon...@ya...
> /dev/sda -d scsi -m jon...@ya...
> 
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Device: /dev/hda, is SMART capable. Adding
> to "monitor" list.
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel:   Vendor: ATA       Model: ST380013AS        Rev:
> 0.75
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI
> SCSI revision: 05
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Device: /dev/sda, opened
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel: SCSI device sda: 156301488 512-byte hdwr sectors
> (80026 MB)
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Device: /dev/sda, Fetch of IEC (SMART) mode
> page failed, err=3, skip device
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write through
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Unable to register SCSI device /dev/sda at
> line 23 of file /etc/smartd.conf
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel:  sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 < sda5 sda6 sda7 >
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Unable to register device /dev/sda -
> exiting.
> Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel: Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0,
> lun 0
> 
> 
> Old log:
> 
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Device: /dev/hda, is SMART capable. Adding
> to "monitor" list.
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256,
> MD_SB_DISKS=27
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Device: /dev/hde, opened
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: md: raid1 personality registered as nr 3
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Device: /dev/hde, not found in smartd
> database.
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data
> mode.
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Device: /dev/hde, is SMART capable. Adding
> to "monitor" list.
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: Freeing unused kernel memory: 152k freed
> Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Started monitoring 2 ATA and 0 SCSI devices
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [smartmontools-support]Where's the temperature attribute?

[Bruce A. <ba...@gr...>]

>     I was looking at one of the hard drives in my dekstop, /dev/hda
> and didn't see any temperature in the attributes. I ran the command
> 'smartctl -A /dev/hda' and here's what popped out.
> 
> [root@home3 laytonj]# /usr/sbin/smartctl -A /dev/hda
> smartctl version 5.1-11 Copyright (C) 2002-3 Bruce Allen

(snip)
>   12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age      -       705
> 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age      -       0

(snip)

>     This is a Western Digital WD200BB disk (20 gig).
>     Can anybody shed some light on this for me?

A number of Western Digital drives don't have ANY temperature Attribute.
Others do have one.  I don't know why.

Cheers,
	Bruce

PS: you might want to update -- you are using a pretty out-of-date
release.

[smartmontools-support]Where's the temperature attribute?

[Jeffrey B. L. <lay...@co...>]

Good evening,

    I was looking at one of the hard drives in my dekstop,
/dev/hda and didn't see any temperature in the attributes.
I ran the command 'smartctl -A /dev/hda' and here's what
popped out.

[root@home3 laytonj]# /usr/sbin/smartctl -A /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.1-11 Copyright (C) 2002-3 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE     WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   200   200   051    Pre-fail     -       0
   3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   093   091   021    Pre-fail     -       2716
   4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   040    Old_age      -       707
   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail     -       0
   7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   200   200   051    Pre-fail     -       0
   9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age      -       1715
  10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   051    Pre-fail     -       0
  11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013   100   100   051    Pre-fail     -       0
  12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age      -       705
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age      -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   200   200   000    Old_age      -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0012   200   200   000    Old_age      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   200   253   000    Old_age      -       2
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0009   200   200   051    Pre-fail     -       0

I don't see any temperature attribute.
    This is a Western Digital WD200BB disk (20 gig).
Here's the snippet from dmesg:

hda: WDC WD200BB-00CJA0, ATA DISK drive

    Can anybody shed some light on this for me?

Thanks!

Jeff

Re: [smartmontools-support]FYI -- FreeBSD port of smartmontools is now part of PORTS package

[Bruce A. <ba...@gr...>]

> My submission to the FreeBSD Ports team has been accepted and
> committed.  Smartmontools is now a member of the FreeBSD Ports
> collection, as 'sysutils/smartmontools' Currently, this is for version
> 5.21.  I plan on submitting regular updates to the Ports collection as
> future releases are made.

Ed,

Thanks for the update.  That's great news!

I'm still on the verge of issuing a 5.22 release.  But I'd like to hear
back from Doug if my "scsi hanging USB solution" looks OK to him, and from
you to know if it's OK for freebsd.

Also, I think we'll have Solaris SCSI support in the 5.22 release - I
already have a preliminary version in hand but it needs a tiny bit more
work.

Cheers,
	Bruce

Re: [smartmontools-support]Smartmontools and Dell 6650 with PERC 3/DC and FUJITSU MAM3367MC disks

[Bruce A. <ba...@gr...>]

> I am using smartmontools for monitoring couple of desktop/small server
> ATA HHDs. Smartctl does it's job. But yesterday I've noticed some
> problems with RAID array on one of production servers I'm taking care
> of. And there goes a question - do you know about any problems using
> smartctl with such kind of hardware? Or - perhaps you have information
> from other users, that such combination works fine?

Is this hardware or software RAID?  If it's software RAID, then
smartctl/smartd shoudl work fine.  If it's hardware RAID, then the only
supported controller is the 3ware escalade series.  If you are using a
3ware RAID controller, and are having problems with smartmontools , please
let us know.

Bruce

[smartmontools-support]FYI -- FreeBSD port of smartmontools is now part of PORTS package

[Eduard M. <mar...@ro...>]

All,

My submission to the FreeBSD Ports team has been accepted and
committed.   Smartmontools is now a member of the FreeBSD Ports
collection, as 'sysutils/smartmontools'  Currently, this is for version
5.21.  I plan on submitting regular updates to the Ports collection as
future releases are made.

Ed

-- 
Eduard Martinescu <mar...@ro...>

[smartmontools-support]Smartmontools and Dell 6650 with PERC 3/DC and FUJITSU MAM3367MC disks

[Jakub F. <am...@ax...>]

Hello,

I am using smartmontools for monitoring couple of desktop/small server
ATA HHDs. Smartctl does it's job. But yesterday I've noticed some problems
with RAID array on one of production servers I'm taking care of. And there
goes a question - do you know about any problems using smartctl with such
kind of hardware? Or - perhaps you have information from other users, that
such combination works fine?

TIA for any information.

Greetings,
-- 
Jakub Filipowicz, jfi...@ax...
"My name is Filipowicz. James Filipowicz."

[smartmontools-support]Re: SmartMonTools on 5.21

[Bruce A. <ba...@gr...>]

> You might remember me, I did some (basic) PowerPC testing of SmartMonTools
> last June. I'm trying to build SmartMonTools 5.21on OpenBSD 3.3 and I'm
> getting the following compilation errors at the make phase:
> 
> smartd.c:127: Undefined symbol `_os_XXXX_c_cvsid' referenced from text

<SNIP>

> Is there a version of SmartMonTools that builds/runs on OpenBSD 3.3. 

Try downloading the latest code from CVS.  It should build, making use of
the os_generic.[hc] files.  Give it a try, and let us know if it doesn't
compile.

However, although it will build, it still needs to be ported.  Those files
just contain empty stubs.  Someone needs to implement the necessary smart
ioctl calls in OpenBSD.

> PS: I'm starting to use SmartMonTools as a matter of fact. I had a failing
> RAID system on a Windows XP machine. The PowerMax tools from Maxtor detected
> a problem with the drive and allowed me to fix it, however it did not give
> much information. I used SmartMonTools to extract the info from the drive
> and send it to Maxtor who finally told me they would exchange the drive
> under warranty.

Neat!

Cheers,
	Bruce

PS: please copy the mailing list in any replies.

[smartmontools-support]SATA drives and smartd

[Jon S. <jon...@ya...>]

Originally the 2.6 kernel was treating SATA drives like IDE ones and using the
IDE driver. smartd worked with this. Now the kernel has been reworked (as of
today) to handle SATA drives with the SCSI driver (this is being done to 2.4
too). I can't figure out how to make smartd work with the new driver. My disk
has moved from /dev/hde to /dev/sda. Please CC me, I am not subscribed.

Current log with this smartd.conf
/dev/hda -a -m jon...@ya...
/dev/sda -d scsi -m jon...@ya...

Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Device: /dev/hda, is SMART capable. Adding
to "monitor" list.
Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel:   Vendor: ATA       Model: ST380013AS        Rev:
0.75
Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI
SCSI revision: 05
Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Device: /dev/sda, opened
Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel: SCSI device sda: 156301488 512-byte hdwr sectors
(80026 MB)
Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Device: /dev/sda, Fetch of IEC (SMART) mode
page failed, err=3, skip device
Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel: SCSI device sda: drive cache: write through
Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Unable to register SCSI device /dev/sda at
line 23 of file /etc/smartd.conf
Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel:  sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 < sda5 sda6 sda7 >
Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl smartd[7561]: Unable to register device /dev/sda -
exiting.
Oct 22 22:02:16 smirl kernel: Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0,
lun 0


Old log:

Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Device: /dev/hda, is SMART capable. Adding
to "monitor" list.
Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256,
MD_SB_DISKS=27
Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Device: /dev/hde, opened
Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: md: raid1 personality registered as nr 3
Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Device: /dev/hde, not found in smartd
database.
Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data
mode.
Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Device: /dev/hde, is SMART capable. Adding
to "monitor" list.
Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl kernel: Freeing unused kernel memory: 152k freed
Oct 22 14:05:26 smirl smartd[6979]: Started monitoring 2 ATA and 0 SCSI devices



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jon...@ya...

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Re: [smartmontools-support]Fuji with invalid SMART checksum

[<bh...@st...>]

> The bottom line: get this disk replaced as soon as you can.  Something is
> badly wrong with it.

Thanks for the info, Bruce.  I'll be backing it up at work first thing in 
the morning.  It's a real shame...this drive has been sitting sealed in a 
good environment for a couple years, so no warranty.

Thanks,

Bradley Hartin - bh...@st...
Communications and Network Administrator
Straus-Frank Company

Re: [smartmontools-support]Fuji with invalid SMART checksum

[Bruce A. <ba...@gr...>]

> ever been powered on.  The Compaq BIOS now complains about the SMART
> report showing the drive as failing.  I came across smartmontools, and
> installed via the Gentoo portage system.
> 
> The drive certainly does not behave as if it's failing.  The "invalid 
> SMART checksum" obviously says that the SMART data got scrambled somehow, 
> so perhaps the failure message for the Seek_Time_Performance is at error?

No -- the data is too consistent.  The checksum warning is in the drive
identity structure -- in spite of the message below, it's nothing to do
with SMART.

(By the way, this is the first time I have ever seen the "invalid
checksum" warning.)

There is something wrong with your drive.  The servo is failing:

8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   001   001   019    Pre-fail  Offline  FAILING_NOW 1074003976

which is why the self-tests are failing:

> # 1  Extended off-line   Fatal or unknown error        90%       222         -

This is *not* scrambled SMART data -- it's consistent from many different
data structures spread across the drive.

The bottom line: get this disk replaced as soon as you can.  Something is
badly wrong with it.

Bruce



Cheers,
	Bruce
> SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
> Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
> # 2  Short captive       Fatal or unknown error        90%       222         -
> # 3  Short off-line      Fatal or unknown error        90%       222         -
> # 4  Short off-line      Fatal or unknown error        90%       222         -
> 
> (end of file)
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[smartmontools-support]Fuji with invalid SMART checksum

[<bh...@st...>]

Backstory:  At my company we have a pair of Compaq Armada V300's, and a 
while back we bought a pair of 20GB Fuji hard drives to replace the 
much-smaller stock drives.  I only ever upgraded my laptop, as the user of 
the other never needed it.  The first drive has been in regular use about 
3 years now.  The second drive has remained sealed in it's factory box 
from Fuji, and sat in a controlled environment.  I decided to do a 100% 
re-install, including moving from RedHat Linux to Gentoo Linux, so I used 
the second drive to do this on so that I'd have the old drive in an 
emergency.  I started my move the week before last, and the new drive has 
been incontinuous use (without problems) since the week before last.

Last night I took the laptop home, only the second time this drive has 
ever been powered on.  The Compaq BIOS now complains about the SMART 
report showing the drive as failing.  I came across smartmontools, and 
installed via the Gentoo portage system.

The drive certainly does not behave as if it's failing.  The "invalid 
SMART checksum" obviously says that the SMART data got scrambled somehow, 
so perhaps the failure message for the Seek_Time_Performance is at error?

So, here is the info so that (a) this model can be added to the database 
(note that the drive stores attribute #9 in seconds), and (b) demonstrate 
both the checksum error (which I found no mention of in this mailing 
list's archives), and a failing attribute #8.

Unfortunately, I catch a flight in an hour and a half, so I'm stuck with 
this drive until I can get back and back it up.  I'm betting it will 
survive, though, as I'm guessing the SMART facility itself is what's wrong 
on this drive, rather than the drive itself, given the checksum error.

I'm open for suggestions.  The logs at the end are the tests I tried to 
run after seeing this.  Nothing would ever complete, even specifying -T 
permissive.

Thanks,

Bradley Hartin - bh...@st...
Communications and Network Administrator
Straus-Frank Company

smartctl version 5.1-18 Copyright (C) 2002-3 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

Warning! Drive Identity Structure error: invalid SMART checksum.
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     FUJITSU MHM2200AT
Serial Number:    01060921
Firmware Version: 3822
Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   5
ATA Standard is:  Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is:    Wed Oct 22 11:00:24 2003 CDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED!
Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA.
See vendor-specific Attribute list for failed Attributes.

General SMART Values:
Off-line data collection status: (0x02)	Offline data collection activity was
					completed without error.
					Auto Off-line Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (  57)	A fatal error or unknown test error
					occurred while the device was executing
					its self-test routine and the device 
					was unable to complete the self-test 
					routine.
Total time to complete off-line 
data collection: 		 ( 244) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: 			 (0x1b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
					Automatic timer ON/OFF support.
					Suspend Offline collection upon new
					command.
					Offline surface scan supported.
					Self-test supported.
					No Conveyance Self-test supported.
					No Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)	Saves SMART data before entering
					power-saving mode.
					Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)	Error logging supported.
					No General Purpose Logging support.
Short self-test routine 
recommended polling time: 	 (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: 	 (  32) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   100   099   032    Pre-fail  Always       -       190424
  2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   100   100   020    Pre-fail  Offline      -       12845176
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   100   100   025    Pre-fail  Always       -       2
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0012   100   100   016    Old_age   Always       -       52
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   024    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   020    Pre-fail  Always       -       137
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   001   001   019    Pre-fail  Offline  FAILING_NOW 1074003976
  9 Power_On_Seconds        0x0012   099   099   020    Old_age   Always       -       222h+51m+31s
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   020    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0012   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       26
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0033   100   100   024    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   020    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x000b   100   096   020    Pre-fail  Always       -       944
203 Run_Out_Cancel          0x0002   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       429496991750

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended off-line   Fatal or unknown error        90%       222         -
# 2  Short captive       Fatal or unknown error        90%       222         -
# 3  Short off-line      Fatal or unknown error        90%       222         -
# 4  Short off-line      Fatal or unknown error        90%       222         -

(end of file)

[smartmontools-support]Re: SourceForge CVS pserver finally working again!

[<li...@pe...>]

After a week (yes, 7 days) out of sync they finally fixed it.
The new delays seem to be from 2 to 3h. Now only time will tell
if...

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Fr=E9d=E9ric L. W. Meunier wrote:

> Well, they're still out of sync, now for almost 55h.
>
> And it seems something screwed the projects. Some days ago I
> did an update of my icewm sources, and now I got old files,
> like if they used a backup.
>
> This is my last e-mail about it. I'll make another as soon as
> they get it fixed and I know how long the new delays are.
>
> Don't forget. If you want the 5.21 release, get the tarballs.
>
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Fr=E9d=E9ric L. W. Meunier wrote:
>
> > Just to warn any anonymous CVS users.
> >
> > The repositories and cvsweb are currently out of sync for more
> > than 28h. I did a commit Monday at 20:57 (localtime) and it
> > didn't show up yet. It's 1:23 of Wednesday.
> >
> > I really hope the SourceForge changes will bring "realtime"
> > servers, but I wouldn't count on that until we see it.

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Re: [Smartmontools-support]Re: Monitoring disks attached to 3ware cards

[Bruce A. <ba...@gr...>]

Hi Micah,

> Is it safe to run tests on devices behind 3ware controllers? I want to
> run smartctl -t long -d 3ware,0 /dev/sda (and 3ware,1 /dev/sda).

All I can tell you for sure is:

(1) I've done it lots of times.  It's never caused trouble.
(2) We've never gotten an angry email from a user saying "this broke
    my box."
(3) If you are talking about a mission-critical system (eg, you
    will lose your job if it fails, somewill will be injured, etc)
    then please try it first on a test system.


> I ask because I've already gotten bit by the IBM DEATHstar Smart
> firmware bug on another system, and I am paranoid about doing this
> unless it is absolutely safe. I should also mention that 3ware,2 is a
> DEATHstar device (that is why I didn't ask if it was safe above).

I wouldn't risk giving SMART commands on an IBM drive that is known or
suspected to have the faulty firmware.  I think the results are
undpredictable.

> Also, I asked previously about what the best way is to get a device
> into the smart database. You responded saying send in a smartctl -a
> with some -v options tweaked so they are right... I haven't done that
> because I was a little confused about how I can tweak the -v values so
> that I know they are right... Is there a good method for doing this?

We'll write a FAQ about this and put it on the web page, OK?

Cheers,
	Bruce

> On Mon, 04 Aug 2003, Bruce Allen wrote:
> 
> > I just added experimental support to smartctl to get smart data from
> > behind 3ware RAID controllers.  The syntax is like this:
> > smartctl -a -d 3ware,0 /dev/sda
> > smartctl -a -d 3ware,1 /dev/sda
> > smartctl -a -d 3ware,2 /dev/sda
> > smartctl -a -d 3ware,3 /dev/sda
> > to interrogate the disks zero to three on /dev/sda.
> > 
> > A few things are not working as well as I want yet -- see man smartctl for
> > details.
> > 
> > You'll have to get code from the Sourceforge CVS pserver -- you'll find
> > details on the smartmontools web page.  You'll also have to wait about 24
> > hours until the CVS server is up-to-date. 
> >  
> > Cheers, 
> >         Bruce 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Jose Faria wrote:
> > 
> > > I also have the same questions regarding using smartmontools
> > > with IDE drives on 3ware cards running in SCSI mode.  Is this
> > > a feature of the latest version (5.1.14) or are there special
> > > command line arguments to do this?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Jose Faria
> > > LeftHand Networks
> > > Jos...@le...
> > > 
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Re: [Smartmontools-support]Re: Monitoring disks attached to 3ware cards

[Micah A. <mi...@ri...>]

Is it safe to run tests on devices behind 3ware controllers? I want to
run smartctl -t long -d 3ware,0 /dev/sda (and 3ware,1 /dev/sda). I ask
because I've already gotten bit by the IBM DEATHstar Smart firmware
bug on another system, and I am paranoid about doing this unless it is
absolutely safe. I should also mention that 3ware,2 is a DEATHstar
device (that is why I didn't ask if it was safe above).

Also, I asked previously about what the best way is to get a device
into the smart database. You responded saying send in a smartctl -a
with some -v options tweaked so they are right... I haven't done that
because I was a little confused about how I can tweak the -v values so
that I know they are right... Is there a good method for doing this? 

Thanks!
micah


On Mon, 04 Aug 2003, Bruce Allen wrote:

> I just added experimental support to smartctl to get smart data from
> behind 3ware RAID controllers.  The syntax is like this:
> smartctl -a -d 3ware,0 /dev/sda
> smartctl -a -d 3ware,1 /dev/sda
> smartctl -a -d 3ware,2 /dev/sda
> smartctl -a -d 3ware,3 /dev/sda
> to interrogate the disks zero to three on /dev/sda.
> 
> A few things are not working as well as I want yet -- see man smartctl for
> details.
> 
> You'll have to get code from the Sourceforge CVS pserver -- you'll find
> details on the smartmontools web page.  You'll also have to wait about 24
> hours until the CVS server is up-to-date. 
>  
> Cheers, 
>         Bruce 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Jose Faria wrote:
> 
> > I also have the same questions regarding using smartmontools
> > with IDE drives on 3ware cards running in SCSI mode.  Is this
> > a feature of the latest version (5.1.14) or are there special
> > command line arguments to do this?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Jose Faria
> > LeftHand Networks
> > Jos...@le...
> > 
> > 
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[smartmontools-support]Re: Atlas 15k

[Ivan D. <im...@fy...>]

Douglas,

On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Douglas Gilbert wrote:

> > smartctl -a /dev/sdf1
> > 
> > between others it gives 
> > 
> >     ...
> >     Manufactured in week 00 of year 2000
> >     ...
> > 
> > what it means? Where from smartctl takes this date info?
> > My problem is that harddrive which we bought is labeled by date:
> > 28 Apr 2003  and  'smartctl' gives year 2000.
> > Who is wrong?
> 
> Maxtor is wrong (or at least inconsistent)! During
> production they should put a valid production date
> in the disk firmware (about the same time as they
> give it a unique serial number).
Ok, thank you, I thought the same, Atlas 15k models are very new and it 
should be an inconsistent. At least it can't 3 years old. 


> > full output:
> > 
> > -------------------------------------------
> > # smartctl -a /dev/sdb1
> > 
> > smartctl version 5.20 Copyright (C) 2002-3 Bruce Allen
> > Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
> > 
> > Device: MAXTOR   ATLAS15K_73SCA   Version: DT60
> > Serial number: C80356MK
> > Device type: disk
> > Local Time is: Thu Oct  9 19:05:50 2003 EEST
> > Device supports SMART and is Enabled
> > Temperature Warning Enabled
> > SMART Health Status: OK
> > Current Drive Temperature:     36 C
> > Manufactured in week 00 of year 2000
> > Current start stop count:      182 times
> > Recommended start stop count:  4294967295 times
> 
> Perhaps I should change that to "Recommended maximum ...".
> Anyway the number is crazy and is 0xffffffff in hex. The
> standard gives them no latitude to do that.
> 
> > Error counter log:
> >           Errors Corrected    Total      Total   Correction     Gigabytes    
> > Total
> >               delay:       [rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    
> > uncorrected
> >             minor | major  rewrites]  corrected  invocations   [10^9 
> > bytes]  errors
> > read:     349618        0         0         0          0        772.206           
> > 0
> > write:         0        0         0         0          0        668.155           
> > 0

By the way, what those 'delay minor errors' could mean? Is it harmless? 

> > Non-medium error count:        4
> > No self-tests have been logged
> > Long (extended) Self Test duration: 2056 seconds [34.3 minutes]
> 
> Perhaps you should do a self test (e.g. 'smartctl -t short /dev/sdf')
> to see if the result turns up after the second last line.
After 'smartctl -t short' results are still the same

> Anyway, how does the Atlas 15k perform?
Can't say too much, currently I am testing software RAID-5 by 6 Atlas 15k 
73Gb disks. All disks are Ultra320 but I have Adaptec 39160D and disks are 
running Ultra160 mode. As well testing PC is pretty poor (old Intel 
Celeron 433MHz with 256Mb of memory). Later I will connect RAID to 
server station with Adaptec 39320D and could tell more.


now hdparm gives
# hdparm -t /dev/sdg

/dev/sdg:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  2.04 seconds = 31.37 MB/sec


for short comparison on the other channel old IBM DDRS-34560 gives 
# hdparm -t /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  5.10 seconds = 12.55 MB/sec


Later, if need, I could say more test info about Ultra320 mode.

But behind this we had problems, two new Atlas 15k disks just crushed with 
many bad blocks after some weeks of hard using. It was this summer, then 
we lost our RAID. Now we got by warranty two new and I am testing it.   

# badblocks -b 4096 -s -w -c 512 /dev/sd?1

gave no error :) 

Ivan


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Re: [smartmontools-support](no subject)

[Douglas G. <do...@to...>]

Ivan Degtyarenko wrote:
> Dear madam/sir,
> 
> we are using your software and first of all thank you for this. Soft is 
> great. Just small question.
> 
> When I am getting the information about my scsi device with 
> 
> smartctl -a /dev/sdf1
> 
> between others it gives 
> 
>     ...
>     Manufactured in week 00 of year 2000
>     ...
> 
> what it means? Where from smartctl takes this date info?
> My problem is that harddrive which we bought is labeled by date:
> 28 Apr 2003  and  'smartctl' gives year 2000.
> 
> Who is wrong?

Ivan,
Maxtor is wrong (or at least inconsistent)! During
production they should put a valid production date
in the disk firmware (about the same time as they
give it a unique serial number).

Smartmontools is simply outputting the contents of
log page 0xe ("start stop cycle counter" page).
Maxtor's product manual for the Atlas 10k IV says
to "contact your Maxtor applications engineer" for
more information about the contents of log sense
pages (their site doesn't have a product manual for
the Atlas 15k yet). Contacting Maxtor shouldn't be
necessary since that page is defined in the relevant
standard (www.t10.org SPC document).

> full output:
> 
> -------------------------------------------
> # smartctl -a /dev/sdb1
> 
> smartctl version 5.20 Copyright (C) 2002-3 Bruce Allen
> Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Device: MAXTOR   ATLAS15K_73SCA   Version: DT60
> Serial number: C80356MK
> Device type: disk
> Local Time is: Thu Oct  9 19:05:50 2003 EEST
> Device supports SMART and is Enabled
> Temperature Warning Enabled
> SMART Health Status: OK
> Current Drive Temperature:     36 C
> Manufactured in week 00 of year 2000
> Current start stop count:      182 times
> Recommended start stop count:  4294967295 times

Perhaps I should change that to "Recommended maximum ...".
Anyway the number is crazy and is 0xffffffff in hex. The
standard gives them no latitude to do that.

> Error counter log:
>           Errors Corrected    Total      Total   Correction     Gigabytes    
> Total
>               delay:       [rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    
> uncorrected
>             minor | major  rewrites]  corrected  invocations   [10^9 
> bytes]  errors
> read:     349618        0         0         0          0        772.206           
> 0
> write:         0        0         0         0          0        668.155           
> 0
> 
> Non-medium error count:        4
> No self-tests have been logged
> Long (extended) Self Test duration: 2056 seconds [34.3 minutes]

Perhaps you should do a self test (e.g. 'smartctl -t short /dev/sdf')
to see if the result turns up after the second last line.

Anyway, how does the Atlas 15k perform?

Doug Gilbert

Re: [smartmontools-support]smartd.initd support for Yellow Dog Linux

[Bruce A. <ba...@gr...>]

> -if [ -f /etc/redhat-release ] ; then
> +if [ -f /etc/redhat-release -o -f /etc/yellowdog-release ] ; then

Done, thanks.

> Thank you for an excellent tool!

You're welcome!

Bruce

[smartmontools-support]Re: SourceForge CVS pserver finally working again!

[<li...@pe...>]

Well, they're still out of sync, now for almost 55h.

And it seems something screwed the projects. Some days ago I
did an update of my icewm sources, and now I got old files,
like if they used a backup.

This is my last e-mail about it. I'll make another as soon as
they get it fixed and I know how long the new delays are.

Don't forget. If you want the 5.21 release, get the tarballs.

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Fr=E9d=E9ric L. W. Meunier wrote:

> Just to warn any anonymous CVS users.
>
> The repositories and cvsweb are currently out of sync for more
> than 28h. I did a commit Monday at 20:57 (localtime) and it
> didn't show up yet. It's 1:23 of Wednesday.
>
> I really hope the SourceForge changes will bring "realtime"
> servers, but I wouldn't count on that until we see it.

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