From: Jesse L. <jes...@gm...> - 2006-07-03 04:17:22
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Based on Chinese version Slashcode, Solidot.org <http://solidot.org/> beta has been running flawlessly for a couple of months. In order to make Slash to be running on Chinese language environment smoothly, we have spent more than one month to patch and configure it. Currently slash is quite sophisticated system in terms of both installation and management. For people who never touched it before, it was not trivial thing to grasp. Original slash doesn't support other languages other than English, especially some codes of East Asian Languages such as Chinese and Japanese. We don't think i18n/l10n is on you guys' development agenda. We have modified code, now slash can natively run on UTF8 based Chinese language environment without problem. Translation to all Simplified Chinese language hasn't finished yet, but more than 70% work has been done. The rest contents are basically FAQ and comments parts. We will gradually finish them all and plan to release a Simplified Chinese version of Slashcode in near future. Certainly it will comply with original Slashcode GPL license. When we finish, we would like to let developers at slashcode.com know. You are welcome to include this utf8 Simplified Chinese language packs and database files in your future releases. Solidot.org <http://solidot.org/> is running on latest CVS version of slash (Slash 2.5.0.112). It is perhaps first website in mainland China which adopted slashcode. We had hardly seen any articles introducing slash in China before, as well as from search engines. We have never seen website in China based on slashcode. There is only one Traditional Chinese language pack based on slashcode four years ago. And a Traditional Chinese website in Taiwan uses old slashcode (version 2.2.6) as well. Therefore in mainland China, Solidot.org <http://solidot.org/> should be the first website using slashcode. Naturally we have same goal as Slashdot, which is to build up a news community for geeks in China. |
From: Jamie M. <ja...@mc...> - 2006-07-03 14:02:16
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jes...@gm... (Jesse Lee) writes: > Original slash doesn't support other languages other than > English, especially some codes of East Asian Languages such as > Chinese and Japanese. We don't think i18n/l10n is on you guys' > development agenda. We have modified code, now slash can natively > run on UTF8 based Chinese language environment without problem. No, it hasn't been on our agenda, unfortunately. I'm very interested in incorporating your changes back into our code if it can be done without turning things upside down for us. If so, that might make future upgrades for you go more smoothly. > When we finish, we would like to let developers at slashcode.com > know. You are welcome to include this utf8 Simplified Chinese > language packs and database files in your future releases. Please do let us know (on this mailing list, if you like). And congratulations on getting it all working. --=20 Jamie McCarthy http://mccarthy.vg/ ja...@mc... |
From: Jesse L. <jes...@gm...> - 2006-07-04 18:50:35
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Thanks for your replies. There are some changes, But we haven't sorted them out. Also the Chinese theme hasn't been finished yet. We've planed to release a UTF-8 Chinese Version of Slash. Lots of things to do, except above mentioned, there are some documentations such as Chinese install guide, Chinese FAQ, etc. When we are done these, we will post the code changes and other stuff to this list and Slashcode.com. Please give us some time. Jesse On 7/3/06, Jamie McCarthy < ja...@mc...> wrote: > > jes...@gm... (Jesse Lee) writes: > > > Original slash doesn't support other languages other than > > English, especially some codes of East Asian Languages such as > > Chinese and Japanese. We don't think i18n/l10n is on you guys' > > development agenda. We have modified code, now slash can natively > > run on UTF8 based Chinese language environment without problem. > > No, it hasn't been on our agenda, unfortunately. I'm very > interested in incorporating your changes back into our code if it > can be done without turning things upside down for us. If so, > that might make future upgrades for you go more smoothly. > > > When we finish, we would like to let developers at slashcode.com > > know. You are welcome to include this utf8 Simplified Chinese > > language packs and database files in your future releases. > > Please do let us know (on this mailing list, if you like). And > congratulations on getting it all working. > -- > Jamie McCarthy > http://mccarthy.vg/ > ja...@mc... > |
From: shane <sh...@lo...> - 2006-07-05 18:49:39
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On Jul 4, 2006, at 2:50 PM, Jesse Lee wrote: > Thanks for your replies. > > There are some changes, But we haven't sorted them out. Also the > Chinese theme hasn't been finished yet. > We've planed to release a UTF-8 Chinese Version of Slash. Lots of > things to do, except above mentioned, there are some documentations > such as Chinese install guide, Chinese FAQ, etc. > When we are done these, we will post the code changes and other > stuff to this list and Slashcode.com. > > Please give us some time. > > Jesse > On 7/3/06, Jamie McCarthy < ja...@mc...> wrote: > jes...@gm... (Jesse Lee) writes: > > > Original slash doesn't support other languages other than > > English, especially some codes of East Asian Languages such as > > Chinese and Japanese. We don't think i18n/l10n is on you guys' > > development agenda. We have modified code, now slash can natively > > run on UTF8 based Chinese language environment without problem. > > No, it hasn't been on our agenda, unfortunately. I'm very > interested in incorporating your changes back into our code if it > can be done without turning things upside down for us. If so, > that might make future upgrades for you go more smoothly. > > > When we finish, we would like to let developers at slashcode.com > > know. You are welcome to include this utf8 Simplified Chinese > > language packs and database files in your future releases. > > Please do let us know (on this mailing list, if you like). And > congratulations on getting it all working. > -- > Jamie McCarthy > http://mccarthy.vg/ > ja...@mc... Did you by chance attempt to make use of the "language" field within the templates? ie __lang__ en_US I'm also curious as to how you handled the form submission buttons. Some of them, if memory serves, are hard-coded-ops. Congrats on the work! Shane |
From: Jesse L. <jes...@gm...> - 2006-07-05 19:44:40
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From: shane <sh...@lo...> - 2006-07-05 20:26:36
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Another possible alternative way to do it - declare the language in your data template. ie cp themes/slashcode/templates/data\;misc\;defaults themes/=20 slashcode_CN/templates/. edit the themes/slashcode_CN/templates/.data\;misc\;default change language to zh_CN then add a case statement [% CASE 'button_createnew' %] Create a new [% CASE 'button_preview' %] Preview [% CASE 'button_edit' %] Edit [% CASE 'button_save' %] Save [% CASE 'button_submit' %] Submit then in your templates something like such <input type=3D"submit" name=3D"save" value=3D"[% button_save %]"> If you did it like this, you'd just have to create the data templates =20= for each language. if you combined it w/ the JS then it could work =20 site-wide I'd think. Shane On Jul 5, 2006, at 3:44 PM, Jesse Lee wrote: > We've changed lang field 'en_US' to 'zh_CN' in all templates. But =20 > I'm not sure this field can take what effect. It seems en_US will =20 > work well in Chinese Language. > > The button word is a problem. My partner has given three solutions. > > 1, Using JS to control in the template. > e.g. > <input type=3D"submit" value=3D"=E5=9B=9E=E5=A4=8D" = onclick=3D"document.getElementById=20 > ('op').value=3D'reply'"> > <input type=3D"hidden" value=3D"" name=3D"op" id=3D"op"> > > 2, Change 'op' to other words, then parsed using CGI. > e.g. > <input type=3D"submit" value=3D"=E5=9B=9E=E5=A4=8D" name=3D"op__reply"> > > 3, Changing corresponding string in the CGI to Chinese words. This =20 > way maybe is not a good habits. > > Finally we decided to use first way, use JS to control and we've =20 > tested, works well with Firefox 1.5 and IE6. But we haven't make =20 > changes on those button yet. We'll do that later. > > Btw, site is now down, server problem, be back soon. > > On 7/6/06, shane < sh...@lo...> wrote: > On Jul 4, 2006, at 2:50 PM, Jesse Lee wrote: > >> Thanks for your replies. >> >> There are some changes, But we haven't sorted them out. Also the =20 >> Chinese theme hasn't been finished yet. >> We've planed to release a UTF-8 Chinese Version of Slash. Lots of =20 >> things to do, except above mentioned, there are some =20 >> documentations such as Chinese install guide, Chinese FAQ, etc. >> When we are done these, we will post the code changes and other =20 >> stuff to this list and Slashcode.com. >> >> Please give us some time. >> >> Jesse >> On 7/3/06, Jamie McCarthy < ja...@mc...> wrote: >> jes...@gm... (Jesse Lee) writes: >> >> > Original slash doesn't support other languages other than >> > English, especially some codes of East Asian Languages such as >> > Chinese and Japanese. We don't think i18n/l10n is on you guys' >> > development agenda. We have modified code, now slash can natively >> > run on UTF8 based Chinese language environment without problem. >> >> No, it hasn't been on our agenda, unfortunately. I'm very >> interested in incorporating your changes back into our code if it >> can be done without turning things upside down for us. If so, >> that might make future upgrades for you go more smoothly. >> >> > When we finish, we would like to let developers at slashcode.com >> > know. You are welcome to include this utf8 Simplified Chinese >> > language packs and database files in your future releases. >> >> Please do let us know (on this mailing list, if you like). And >> congratulations on getting it all working. >> -- >> Jamie McCarthy >> http://mccarthy.vg/ >> ja...@mc... > > > Did you by chance attempt to make use of the "language" field =20 > within the templates? > > ie > > __lang__ > en_US > > > I'm also curious as to how you handled the form submission buttons. =20= > Some of them, if memory serves, are hard-coded-ops. > > Congrats on the work! > > Shane > > > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, =20 > security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your =20 > job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache =20 > Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?=20 > cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat=3D121642 > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general |
From: Jesse L. <jes...@gm...> - 2006-07-05 20:08:55
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In addition, there is an other hard problem, Chinese Search. We have changed some codes, but still not work. My partners they are all good at Perl, but Chinese search is difficult. We've given it up, now using Google Site search instead of it. We also noticed Slashdot recently changed to use Google Site Search too. Sorry for my English. On 7/6/06, shane <sh...@lo...> wrote: > > On Jul 4, 2006, at 2:50 PM, Jesse Lee wrote: > > Thanks for your replies. > > There are some changes, But we haven't sorted them out. Also the Chinese > theme hasn't been finished yet. > We've planed to release a UTF-8 Chinese Version of Slash. Lots of things > to do, except above mentioned, there are some documentations such as Chinese > install guide, Chinese FAQ, etc. > When we are done these, we will post the code changes and other stuff to > this list and Slashcode.com. > > Please give us some time. > > Jesse > On 7/3/06, Jamie McCarthy < ja...@mc...> wrote: > > > > jes...@gm... (Jesse Lee) writes: > > > > > Original slash doesn't support other languages other than > > > English, especially some codes of East Asian Languages such as > > > Chinese and Japanese. We don't think i18n/l10n is on you guys' > > > development agenda. We have modified code, now slash can natively > > > run on UTF8 based Chinese language environment without problem. > > > > No, it hasn't been on our agenda, unfortunately. I'm very > > interested in incorporating your changes back into our code if it > > can be done without turning things upside down for us. If so, > > that might make future upgrades for you go more smoothly. > > > > > When we finish, we would like to let developers at slashcode.com > > > know. You are welcome to include this utf8 Simplified Chinese > > > language packs and database files in your future releases. > > > > Please do let us know (on this mailing list, if you like). And > > congratulations on getting it all working. > > -- > > Jamie McCarthy > > http://mccarthy.vg/ > > ja...@mc... > > > > Did you by chance attempt to make use of the "language" field within the > templates? > ie > > __lang__ > en_US > > > I'm also curious as to how you handled the form submission buttons. Some > of them, if memory serves, are hard-coded-ops. > > Congrats on the work! > > Shane > > > > |
From: shane <sh...@lo...> - 2006-07-05 20:29:17
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re: slashdot search using google when I hit http://slashdot.org/search.pl or when I choose 'search' from the front page of slashdot, it uses slashcode's search.pl to dish results. So I'm not sure you're correct when you're saying Slashdot's switched to google's site search tool. maybe, but i'm not seein it. Shane On Jul 5, 2006, at 4:03 PM, Jesse Lee wrote: > In addition, there is an other hard problem, Chinese Search. > We have changed some codes, but still not work. My partners they > are all good at Perl, but Chinese search is difficult. We've given > it up, now using Google Site search instead of it. We also noticed > Slashdot recently changed to use Google Site Search too. > > Sorry for my English. > > On 7/6/06, shane <sh...@lo...> wrote: > On Jul 4, 2006, at 2:50 PM, Jesse Lee wrote: > >> Thanks for your replies. >> >> There are some changes, But we haven't sorted them out. Also the >> Chinese theme hasn't been finished yet. >> We've planed to release a UTF-8 Chinese Version of Slash. Lots of >> things to do, except above mentioned, there are some >> documentations such as Chinese install guide, Chinese FAQ, etc. >> When we are done these, we will post the code changes and other >> stuff to this list and Slashcode.com. >> >> Please give us some time. >> >> Jesse >> On 7/3/06, Jamie McCarthy < ja...@mc...> wrote: >> jes...@gm... (Jesse Lee) writes: >> >> > Original slash doesn't support other languages other than >> > English, especially some codes of East Asian Languages such as >> > Chinese and Japanese. We don't think i18n/l10n is on you guys' >> > development agenda. We have modified code, now slash can natively >> > run on UTF8 based Chinese language environment without problem. >> >> No, it hasn't been on our agenda, unfortunately. I'm very >> interested in incorporating your changes back into our code if it >> can be done without turning things upside down for us. If so, >> that might make future upgrades for you go more smoothly. >> >> > When we finish, we would like to let developers at slashcode.com >> > know. You are welcome to include this utf8 Simplified Chinese >> > language packs and database files in your future releases. >> >> Please do let us know (on this mailing list, if you like). And >> congratulations on getting it all working. >> -- >> Jamie McCarthy >> http://mccarthy.vg/ >> ja...@mc... > > > Did you by chance attempt to make use of the "language" field > within the templates? > > ie > > __lang__ > en_US > > > I'm also curious as to how you handled the form submission buttons. > Some of them, if memory serves, are hard-coded-ops. > > Congrats on the work! > > Shane > > > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your > job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general |
From: Jesse L. <jes...@gm...> - 2006-07-05 21:15:49
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>Another possible alternative way to do it - >declare the language in your data template. >ie >cp themes/slashcode/templates/data\;misc\;defaults themes/slashcode_CN/templates/. >edit the themes/slashcode_CN/templates/.data\;misc\;default >change language to zh_CN >then add a case statement >[% CASE 'button_createnew' %] ... Great! I'll try your way tomorrow. >when I hit http://slashdot.org/search.pl or when I choose 'search' from the front page of slashdot, it uses >slashcode's search.pl to dish results. So I'm not sure you're correct when you're saying Slashdot's >switched to google's site search tool. Several days ago, I saw the top-right search bar on Slashdot's homepage changed to Google Search. I just visited Slashdot, they are back to Slash own search now. Maybe they are test something? On 7/6/06, shane <sh...@lo...> wrote: > > re: slashdot search using google > when I hit http://slashdot.org/search.pl or when I choose 'search' from > the front page of slashdot, it uses slashcode's search.pl to dish results. > So I'm not sure you're correct when you're saying Slashdot's switched to > google's site search tool. > > maybe, but i'm not seein it. > > Shane > > On Jul 5, 2006, at 4:03 PM, Jesse Lee wrote: > > In addition, there is an other hard problem, Chinese Search. > We have changed some codes, but still not work. My partners they are all > good at Perl, but Chinese search is difficult. We've given it up, now using > Google Site search instead of it. We also noticed Slashdot recently changed > to use Google Site Search too. > > Sorry for my English. > > On 7/6/06, shane <sh...@lo...> wrote: > > > > On Jul 4, 2006, at 2:50 PM, Jesse Lee wrote: > > > > Thanks for your replies. > > > > There are some changes, But we haven't sorted them out. Also the Chinese > > theme hasn't been finished yet. > > We've planed to release a UTF-8 Chinese Version of Slash. Lots of things > > to do, except above mentioned, there are some documentations such as Chinese > > install guide, Chinese FAQ, etc. > > When we are done these, we will post the code changes and other stuff to > > this list and Slashcode.com. > > > > Please give us some time. > > > > Jesse > > On 7/3/06, Jamie McCarthy < ja...@mc...> wrote: > > > > > > jes...@gm... (Jesse Lee) writes: > > > > > > > Original slash doesn't support other languages other than > > > > English, especially some codes of East Asian Languages such as > > > > Chinese and Japanese. We don't think i18n/l10n is on you guys' > > > > development agenda. We have modified code, now slash can natively > > > > run on UTF8 based Chinese language environment without problem. > > > > > > No, it hasn't been on our agenda, unfortunately. I'm very > > > interested in incorporating your changes back into our code if it > > > can be done without turning things upside down for us. If so, > > > that might make future upgrades for you go more smoothly. > > > > > > > When we finish, we would like to let developers at slashcode.com > > > > know. You are welcome to include this utf8 Simplified Chinese > > > > language packs and database files in your future releases. > > > > > > Please do let us know (on this mailing list, if you like). And > > > congratulations on getting it all working. > > > -- > > > Jamie McCarthy > > > http://mccarthy.vg/ > > > ja...@mc... > > > > > > > > Did you by chance attempt to make use of the "language" field within the > > templates? > > ie > > > > __lang__ > > en_US > > > > > > I'm also curious as to how you handled the form submission buttons. Some > > of them, if memory serves, are hard-coded-ops. > > > > Congrats on the work! > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Slashcode-general mailing list > Sla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/slashcode-general > > |
From: Jamie M. <ja...@mc...> - 2006-07-06 11:51:03
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> > In addition, there is an other hard problem, Chinese Search. > > We have changed some codes, but still not work. My partners > > they are all good at Perl, but Chinese search is difficult. > > We've given it up, now using Google Site search instead of it. > > We also noticed Slashdot recently changed to use Google Site > > Search too. > when I hit http://slashdot.org/search.pl or when I choose > 'search' from the front page of slashdot, it uses slashcode's > search.pl to dish results. So I'm not sure you're correct when > you're saying Slashdot's switched to google's site search tool. The var 'search_google', when set, will emit a form that does the searching on google rather than submitting to search.pl. It's an inferior choice but better than nothing. Slashdot set that for a few days last week when we were fixing our munged-up search database. (MyISAM, unlike InnoDB, has this nasty habit of getting itself corrupted... in ways that myisamchk just can't fix.) We're back to normal now. --=20 Jamie McCarthy http://mccarthy.vg/ ja...@mc... |
From: Jamie M. <ja...@mc...> - 2006-07-06 20:45:32
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ja...@mc... (Jamie McCarthy) writes: > ...last week when we were fixing our munged-up search database. > (MyISAM, unlike InnoDB, has this nasty habit of getting itself > corrupted... in ways that myisamchk just can't fix.) We're back > to normal now. Someone asked off-list how we fixed it, and I figure I might as well send that to the list. Since it was our search database and we could do without it for a day, the solution was simple: disable access, mysqldump -le the whole thing, and pipe the dump back into 'mysql' to recreate it from scratch. Then restart replication. This may have less enjoyable results on a database in use. --=20 Jamie McCarthy http://mccarthy.vg/ ja...@mc... |