#1586 Wording Error in Moderation Message

Slashdot
closed-rejected
Rob Malda
Messaging (110)
5
2001-12-03
2001-12-03
Sibil Llort
No

The current text of the Message delivered by the
Messaging system when a comment is moderated is as
follows: "A user has given a Interesting (+1)
moderation to your comment". Sometimes, this wording
is in error. Editors can moderate too, and they are
not "users". When $seclev is >99, the text should
read "An editor has given a Interesting (+1)
moderation to your comment".

It should (hopefully) be a one-line fix to check
$seclev when printing this text, though this is
certainly implementation dependent. I could probably
generate a patch if this is too time consuming.
Alternatively, the message could read "A user OR an
editor has..." though this would be less useful.

This fix would be especially useful to users as a
feedback mechanism to let them know when they are
getting out of line - they might have a chance to stop
their bad posting before they are secretly marked with
the $rtbl blacklist flag.

Discussion

  • Chris Nandor
    Chris Nandor
    2001-12-03

    • assigned_to: pudge --> cmdrtaco
     
  • Chris Nandor
    Chris Nandor
    2001-12-03

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    This is not an error. Admins/editors are users; it is
    incorrect to say they are not.

    Whether or not this should be changed is not up to me ... Rob
    can do with this as he wishes.

     
  • Rob Malda
    Rob Malda
    2001-12-03

    • status: open --> closed-rejected
     
  • Rob Malda
    Rob Malda
    2001-12-03

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    Admins are Users too.

     
  • Sibil Llort
    Sibil Llort
    2001-12-05

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    I must respectfully disagree. I believe there are
    fundamental differences between an admin and a user. Only
    an admin has unlimited moderation points, only an admin can
    blacklist ($rtbl) a Slashdot user, and only an admin can
    enact an IP subnet ban against a Slashdot user.

    These differences between admins and users make the
    distinction crystal clear. Slashcode itself makes a one-
    line numerical check to differentiate between admins and
    users; I refuse to believe that you are incapable of
    performing the same comparison. You wrote the code!

    The functional differences between an admin and a user are
    very important: if a user gets a message that they are
    being moderated down by an admin, they will know that they
    should soon fear being blacklisted/rtbl'd or being IP
    subnet banned. They would not have to fear this if they
    were being moderated down by a user.

    So, in summary, the consequences of being moderated down by
    a Slashdot admin are much more dire, and they in turn make
    this bug a high priority. To say that there is no
    functional difference between the quarter million people
    who read Slashdot every day and the handful of people paid
    to administer the site is a ludicrous statement. I will
    leave any attempt to determine the purpose of publicly
    making such a blatantly false statement as an exercise to
    the reader.

    But one thing is clear: the Slashdot administration, for
    whatever reason, does not wish people to know when they are
    moderating user posts, and will justify this stance with...
    blatantly false statements made in public. Just how much
    moderation are you guys doing yourselves? What agenda are
    you pushing? Is M1 completely broken?

     
  • Josh Marotti
    Josh Marotti
    2002-01-18

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    I have to agree with sllort on this one.

    Editors always have these "conspiracy theories", which they
    CAN eliminate by adding stuff like sllorts suggestion, and
    yet, you guys comply with a reason that isn't even a decent
    excuse. Do you enjoy the conspiracy theories??

    As far as moderation goes, editors are not normal users.
    Normal users get moderation under specific conditions and a
    little 'luck-of-the-draw'. Editors get moderation every
    day. Normal users get 5 mod points total for their entire
    moderation period. Editors have unlimited mod points.

    True, editors are users in an Object Oriented perseption,
    in that editors are an EXTENSION of users, but they have
    abilities above and beyond that of a normal user.

    Please, at least give me a real reason why. And remember
    this quote (which I'm sure you already know): "Power
    corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely."

    Funny, I saw that as a quote at the bottom of slashdot one
    day...

     
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    CmdrTaco, your silence will only create problems for
    yourself....

     
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    I enjoy sex.

     
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    yeah! that's right!

    i think...