From: Marco L. <mlo...@es...> - 2010-06-24 12:41:21
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Dear all, I would like to set individual page transitions programmatically for an entire document, which is generated with pdflatex using the beamer class. Is there a way to do this? The standard beamer class commands for page transitions seem to work only in Acrobat and not in Skim. A backup option would be to be able to specify the transitions in an external file somehow. Many thanks, Marco Lombardi P.S. Incidentally, where are page transitions saved in the PDF document? I see Skim produces a resource fork for the PDF when I save it, but the resource fork is empty... |
From: Christiaan H. <cmh...@gm...> - 2010-06-24 18:16:16
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On Jun 24, 2010, at 14:40, Marco Lombardi wrote: > Dear all, > > I would like to set individual page transitions programmatically for > an entire document, which is generated with pdflatex using the beamer > class. Is there a way to do this? The standard beamer class commands > for page transitions seem to work only in Acrobat and not in Skim. A > backup option would be to be able to specify the transitions in an > external file somehow. > > Many thanks, > Marco Lombardi > > P.S. Incidentally, where are page transitions saved in the PDF > document? I see Skim produces a resource fork for the PDF when I save > it, but the resource fork is empty... No, there's no way to set page transitions programmatically, you can only do this through the UI. The transition styles ste in the PDF are not accessible to us, Apple's PDFKit does not support them and does not even report them. In fact one of the reasons the Skim transitions were introduced is precisely as an alternative for the missing PDFKit support. There's also no relation whatsoever between the possible PDF and Skim transitions. The transition information is saved in an extended attribute, just like the notes (the resource fork is also saved in an EA, but a different one). Christiaan |
From: Marco L. <mlo...@es...> - 2010-06-25 18:28:18
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Dear Christiaan, many thanks for your reply, now I understand the reason of this limitation. Still, it would be good to be able to set page transitions programmatically, for example using an external program such as SkimNotes: since this is possible for notes, I imagine it should be technically possible for transitions too. With such as system one could easily write a LaTeX package to write the transition to an auxiliary file to be passed to the SkimNotes-like program. Regards, Marco On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 20:16, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...> wrote: > > On Jun 24, 2010, at 14:40, Marco Lombardi wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> I would like to set individual page transitions programmatically for >> an entire document, which is generated with pdflatex using the beamer >> class. Is there a way to do this? The standard beamer class commands >> for page transitions seem to work only in Acrobat and not in Skim. A >> backup option would be to be able to specify the transitions in an >> external file somehow. >> >> Many thanks, >> Marco Lombardi >> >> P.S. Incidentally, where are page transitions saved in the PDF >> document? I see Skim produces a resource fork for the PDF when I save >> it, but the resource fork is empty... > > No, there's no way to set page transitions programmatically, you can only do this through the UI. > > The transition styles ste in the PDF are not accessible to us, Apple's PDFKit does not support them and does not even report them. In fact one of the reasons the Skim transitions were introduced is precisely as an alternative for the missing PDFKit support. There's also no relation whatsoever between the possible PDF and Skim transitions. > > The transition information is saved in an extended attribute, just like the notes (the resource fork is also saved in an EA, but a different one). > > Christiaan > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate > GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the > lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo > _______________________________________________ > Skim-app-users mailing list > Ski...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > |
From: Christiaan H. <cmh...@gm...> - 2010-06-25 18:40:33
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On Jun 25, 2010, at 20:27, Marco Lombardi wrote: > Dear Christiaan, > > many thanks for your reply, now I understand the reason of this > limitation. Still, it would be good to be able to set page > transitions programmatically, for example using an external program > such as SkimNotes: since this is possible for notes, I imagine it > should be technically possible for transitions too. With such as > system one could easily write a LaTeX package to write the transition > to an auxiliary file to be passed to the SkimNotes-like program. > > Regards, > Marco > Setting the data in the EA would be relatively simple, as the data would not be very big, so you could actually just use the xattr tool that's already on your system. However the problem is the format of the data. Note that also for notes the skimnotes tool does not handle that step, it only passes raw data. That step would actually be rather tricky, because we would have no control over validity of the data, which we can control in detail in Skim. For instance, the details about single transitions or per-pge transitions, and also a third party would not know the names for the transition styles, as they're internal identifiers (not the human readable names you see in the popup). Christiaan > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 20:16, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...> wrote: >> >> On Jun 24, 2010, at 14:40, Marco Lombardi wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I would like to set individual page transitions programmatically for >>> an entire document, which is generated with pdflatex using the beamer >>> class. Is there a way to do this? The standard beamer class commands >>> for page transitions seem to work only in Acrobat and not in Skim. A >>> backup option would be to be able to specify the transitions in an >>> external file somehow. >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> Marco Lombardi >>> >>> P.S. Incidentally, where are page transitions saved in the PDF >>> document? I see Skim produces a resource fork for the PDF when I save >>> it, but the resource fork is empty... >> >> No, there's no way to set page transitions programmatically, you can only do this through the UI. >> >> The transition styles ste in the PDF are not accessible to us, Apple's PDFKit does not support them and does not even report them. In fact one of the reasons the Skim transitions were introduced is precisely as an alternative for the missing PDFKit support. There's also no relation whatsoever between the possible PDF and Skim transitions. >> >> The transition information is saved in an extended attribute, just like the notes (the resource fork is also saved in an EA, but a different one). >> >> Christiaan >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate >> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the >> lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo >> _______________________________________________ >> Skim-app-users mailing list >> Ski...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. >> For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate > GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the > lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo > _______________________________________________ > Skim-app-users mailing list > Ski...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users |