Re: [Semediawiki-user] Semantic Drilldown questions / feature requests

[Yaron K. <ya...@gm...>]

Hi,

1) isn't currently possible, and it seems to me it might cause havoc to make
a category page into a redirect  - I'd say a helpful link is the reasonable
approach.

2) is apparently a bug in SD, although thankfully there's a workaround.

3) and 4) are not currently doable, so they count as feature requests.
They're both good ideas, and in fact they've been requested before, but I
have no plans to implement them at the moment. If anyone else wants to take
a shot at them, feel free; I could also be funded to work on them - anyone
can feel free to contact me about that too.

-Yaron


On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Dave Loomer <dl...@gm...> wrote:

> [[Category:Biography|Doe,John]] doesn't seem to work (although it does
> work in the default Category:Biography page).  Someone also mentions
> that limitation in the Talk page of the SD extension.
>
> However, I wasn't aware of {{DEFAULTSORT:Doe, John}} before.  I just
> tried that and it works in SD -- thanks!!  So, one of my questions is
> now taken care of.
>
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Temlakos <tem...@gm...> wrote:
> > Dave Loomer wrote:
> >> Whether these are questions or feature requests depends on whether
> >> they are currently possible or not, and that's part of why I'm
> >> posting.  I would like to:
> >>
> >> 1) Be able to redirect a Category page to the corresponding
> >> Special:BrowseData results page.  Currently if I put a #REDIRECT in my
> >> Category page, this breaks the BrowseData page as it then shows no
> >> results.  This isn't crucial, but I'd really rather my users not see
> >> the Catgeory pages at all and just go straight to the drilldown page
> >> with all the nice filters (currently I compromise by putting a link at
> >> the top of the Catgeory page suggesting that the user click it for a
> >> more useful listing).
> >> 2) Be able to sort results by something other than the first letter in
> >> the page name.  As one example, if I am browsing a category and a
> >> given page's [[category:]] tag specified an alternate sort order after
> >> the pipe character, this alternate sort order is not respected.  This
> >> is especially needed when page titles represent a person's name and
> >> I'd like to sort by last and then first name.  In another example
> >> there are other pages on my wiki which represent events, and I'd like
> >> them sorted by date instead of page name, without the letter groupings
> >> above them.
> >> 3) Show additional page properties in parentheses (or in some other
> >> format) next to each individual page result.  For example, if I'm
> >> browsing musicians, next to each musician I'd like a list of
> >> instruments he or she plays, or the bands they're a member of.
> >> 4) Overall, and this could solve a few of my concerns at once, it
> >> would be nice to override the default results display with some
> >> template.  Going back to my Events example, I'd really like full
> >> control over the display beyond just the sort order and not showing
> >> the letter groupings above the results.  In this case it would
> >> probably be simplest to just write a semantic page from scratch with
> >> some filter options above, but in a perfect world of course I'd be
> >> able to re-use something that already exists.
> >>
> >>
> >> Is any of this currently possible?
> >>
> >
> > Well, I'm glad I heard about this little limitation.
> >
> > Are you sure that when you specify, say, [[Category:Biography|Doe,
> > John]] the page still sorts as "John Doe"?
> >
> > Have you tried specifying {{DEFAULTSORT:Doe, John}} before your
> categories?
> >
> > Temlakos
> >
> >>
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