BTW, I noticed that you added Special:SemanticStatistics and updated http://ontoworld.org/wiki/Sites_using_Semantic_MediaWiki to have "SS" link next to each entry for the site (very few are operational, unfortunately).

Also, is there any automated way to add sites to that list? Do you have any way to tell where SMW is installed? With versions and stuff?

         Sergey


On Feb 7, 2008 9:07 AM, Markus Krötzsch <mak@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote:
Newsflash: More than 11,500 SMW-documents registered. SMW takes over DOAP to
become the 7th most widely used semantic web schema!
;-)

Obviously some people already started the script. Thanks a lot, especially to
<http://sydneydirectory.org> which is the largest semantic wiki that did the
ping so far! I strongly believe there is potential in getting one position
further up in the ranking: the next milestone is SIOC at 70,000 (since OWL
moves up with SMW).

(Please don't take me too seriously here, the absolute numbers are not
reliable for the other vocabularies either; it's still fun to do the
comparison ;-)

-- Markus


On Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008, Markus Krötzsch wrote:
> On Mittwoch, 6. Februar 2008, Sergey Chernyshev wrote:
> > Markus, I believe this kind of pings should be happening upon update, not
> > on a nightly basis.
>
> Oh, I did not mean to suggest that you do that every night! We would be
> very happy if people on this list would do it once for their wikis, just to
> get a basic overview of the rough amount of semantic wiki data around.
> (Currently the ping-script does not even consider the time when a page was
> last edited.)
>
> > Can you incorporate it into saving process?
>
> One could do that, but this would require to contact an external server on
> each update, just like blogs do it. Not sure whether this is desirable for
> a wiki in general. But there is an API for that [1]. Another option would
> be to set up an independent registration server for SMW, and to ping only
> once for each wiki. Pinging does not reveal any non-public information
> anyway, so a crawler that knowns SMW could also easily ping all pages.
>
> Now that I think about it, we could include such a one-time-ping as an
> option in SMW's adminsettings ...
>
> Markus
>
>
> [1] http://pingthesemanticweb.com/api.php
>
> >          Sergey
> >
> > On Feb 6, 2008 2:07 PM, Markus Krötzsch <mak@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote:
> > > Dear developers,
> > >
> > > I did not see many people who did ping the semantic web yet (email
> > > below).
> > >
> > > In short, just run the maintenance script SMW_pingSemWeb.php:
> > >   php SMW_pingSemWeb.php -h http://ontoworld.org -t ptsw,sind
> > > with "http://ontoworld.org" being your server basename (no path).
> > >
> > > Doing this would help us to get a better lower estimate about how much
> > > SMW-based semantic data is out there, and we would really appreciate
> > > that. Again, note that this does not expose any data that is not public
> > > yet anyway.
> > >
> > > Thank you for supporting the project,
> > >
> > > Markus
> > >
> > >
> > > P.S. You can find the results at
> > > http://pingthesemanticweb.com/stats/namespaces.php (your wiki should
> > > rise up
> > > there instantly :-)
> > >
> > > On Mittwoch, 23. Januar 2008, Markus Krötzsch wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > SMW 1.0 comes with a feature to announce your semantic data to
> > > > Semantic
> > >
> > > Web
> > >
> > > > search engine crawlers. This enables semantic search engines to work
> > >
> > > with
> > >
> > > > your data, and it also spreads your content and URLs to some more
> > > > places
> > >
> > > on
> > >
> > > > the web.
> > > >
> > > > Thus, if you run a public semantic wiki, you may want run the
> > >
> > > maintenance
> > >
> > > > script SMW_pingSemWeb.php. Example:
> > > >
> > > >    php SMW_pingSemWeb.php -h http://ontoworld.org -t ptsw,sind
> > > >
> > > > -h must be *your* domain, without any path (*not*
> > > > http://ontoworld.org/wiki) -t is a list of services to notify,
> > > > possible values currently are: ptsw   http://pingthesemanticweb.com
> > > > (this site nicely shows your input) sind   http://sindice.com (allows
> > > > searches, not tested)
> > > > (you are of course free to unselect any of those, depending on which
> > > > service you want to support; but both are closer to research efforts
> > >
> > > than
> > >
> > > > to commercial use)
> > > >
> > > > More parameters (esp. start id/end id to continue cancelled runs) are
> > > > documented in script file [1].
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Maybe I should emphasise that the script does only point the services
> > > > to your OWL/RDF sources, but it does not send any further data. So it
> > > > will
> > >
> > > not
> > >
> > > > expose any non-public information. Also none of the above services is
> > > > affiliated with SMW or Karlsruhe University. Finally, the script
> > >
> > > requires
> > >
> > > > some time due to many small http-calls, but it needs only very little
> > > > bandwidth and CPU.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Summing up, my suggestion to you is to bomb the semantic web with
> > > > your data ;-) Have fun (look up pingthesemanticweb.com to see your
> > > > wiki's namespace statistics)!
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Markus
> > > >
> > > > P.S. If you also have another public service we should add to this
> > >
> > > script,
> > >
> > > > feel free to say so.
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > >
> > > http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SemanticMed
> > >ia Wi
> > >
> > > >ki/maintenance/SMW_pingSemWeb.php
> > >
> > > --
> > > Markus Krötzsch
> > > Institut AIFB, Universität Karlsruhe (TH), 76128 Karlsruhe
> > > phone +49 (0)721 608 7362          fax +49 (0)721 608 5998
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