Hi,

Sure, let me explain internal objects: they're stored in the SMW database tables the same way that wiki pages are, and they hold their own properties the same way wiki pages do; the only difference is that they don't have a corresponding wiki page (and their naming structure, "Name#Number", makes it impossible for there to be a page, since MediaWiki doesn't allow pound signs in titles).

So I'm imagining the RDF output for an internal object would look like this, for the first internal object in a page called "PageName":

<swivt:Subject rdf:about="http://smw.referata.com/wiki/Special:URIResolver/PageName#1">
<rdfs:label>PageName#1</rdfs:label>
<rdfs:isDefinedBy rdf:resource="http://smw.referata.com/wiki/Special:ExportRDF/PageName#1"/>
<property:PropertyName1 rdf:datatype="...">Value1</property:PropertyName1>
<property:PropertyName2 rdf:datatype="...">Value2</property:PropertyName2>
...
</swivt:Subject>

...in other words, it would look like the current RDF for a wiki page, except that it wouldn't contain "swivt:page" or "rdf:type" tags.

-Yaron


On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:55 AM, Markus Krötzsch <markus@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
Hi Yaron,

I also would like to do some changes to the RDF export in general:

(1) I would like URI generation to be easier to control in extensions. The
main goal of this would be to make the current "vocabulary import" feature of
SMW a separate extension, and to allow for other such extensions that
implement better solutions for using external URIs.

(2) I would like it to become a result printer, so that there is an ask format
"rdf" that uses the same code as the export Special page. The problem here is
that RDF export does not export is based on SMWSemanticData objects (all data
for some page) while query printers are based on SMWQueryResult objects
(tabular data based on a fixed set of print requests).

I guess your changes could go into that re-factoring of the export code as
well. One thing to consider is that the current RDF export is largely
controlled by the data value implementations: every datatype can provide its
own way for encoding its contents in RDF (triples, which are then serialized
to RDF/XML during printout). This is also important to allow SMW to be used
with RDF stores (they get the generated RDF for storing it). So care must be
taken when extending the RDF: it is not enough to insert some string into the
RDF/XML generation, but rather the corresponding RDF triples should be
generated at an earlier stage already so that they are available for other
uses (such as connecting RDF stores) as well.

So how do internal objects relate to datatypes? In fact, maybe you could send
a short email to explain how internal objects work at the moment.

Markus


On Sonntag, 6. September 2009, Yaron Koren wrote:
> Hi,
> I want the new extension Semantic Internal Objects to be able to add data
> about internal objects to the RDF export. Normally this wouldn't seem too
> hard: the function that prints RDF data about a specific wiki page is
> OWLExport::printObject(), in the file SMW_SpecialOWLExport.php (it's a
> little odd that the class is contained directly in the file for a special
> page, but that's another story). Anyway, it seems like the solution would
> be to just add a call to end of that function that looks something like:
>
> wfRunHooks('smwPrintObjectRDF', array($this));
>
> That way, Semantic Internal Objects could register a function with the
> 'smwPrintObjectRDF' hook, so that every time the RDF for a specific page
> was created, SIO could add on the RDF for all the internal objects in that
> page.
>
> Unfortunately, the problem is that nearly all of the variables and methods
> in the OWLExport class are either protected or private; that means there's
> no way for outside code to add to the RDF. This looks to me like
> overly-protective code; could one or more of the functions be made public
> instead? Or maybe the simplest solution is to create a new public function,
> maybe called addToRDF(), that just adds a passed-in string to the RDF being
> generated.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
> -Yaron


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