Sorry, I should have mentioned Semantic Layers in my last email, as I realized soon after I sent it. It already supports most of the functionality that Wibbit does, though it's based on a different technology (OpenLayers instead of Google Maps, though Google Maps can be a data source for the mapping) and has an entirely different code base.

Also, unlike Semantic Google Maps, it doesn't have a hook into Semantic Forms, so it can't be used for map-based input of data (yet? :) ). But it does have a number of excellent capabilities, among them the ability to map points other than geographical locations on planet Earth.

-Yaron


On 10/12/07, Matthew Williamson <matthewdw@gmail.com> wrote:
All,

While it looks like Wibbit may have some additional features that I'll have to research, I thought I'd point out that the map-based displays it creates are exactly what Semantic Layers was designed to do...though perhaps I haven't done a terrific job of making that obvious. So I've added/changed the demo on the front page of http://s89238293.onlinehome.us/w/ a bit--it now makes use of the predefined layers capability and per-marker marker images. There's lots of other interesting features tucked in there as well.

BTW, I'm not done with this extension, but the next features I plan to add (pluggable search modules, KML export) plus the move to SMW 1.0 are a bit daunting, so I've been putting them off while I work on another project temporarily...but those things are coming, so stay tuned.

-Matt



On 10/11/07, Yaron Koren < yaron57@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a really neat application; I had heard about Exhibit before but had never seen it in action. It's nice to see that the Simile people have done for space what their Timeline app did for time. :) Now, if they ever make an application that takes data points with both a place and a time, and creates some sort of animation showing the points on a map moving over time, we could all pretty much just retire and never have to work again.

All that said, the reliance on Google Maps makes this, I think, unusable directly for either Semantic MediaWiki or Semantic Forms. Google Maps, though free of charge, is a proprietary application, which causes some problems. Google Maps' license currently lets you use it for free only if every page that uses it is publicly available, so private wikis (like those for a corporation) could only use an extension that used Google Maps if they paid a licensing fee. Moreover, Google reserves the right to change the licensing structure at any time, which means that they could start charging everyone for it if they wanted to (though that currently seems unlikely).

The obvious place to look to add support for Exhibit instead is Robert Buzink's "Semantic Google Maps" extension:

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Google_Maps

It actually plugs in to both SMW and SF, which means that it can be used for both displaying geographic data spread out over many pages, and inputting that data. It's not yet perfect, but it's close to fully working. And it makes sense that Exhibit's additional features, like being able to customize the "marker" for each data point, could most easily be added there.

Robert, any thoughts?

-Yaron


On 10/11/07, Markus Krötzsch <mak@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de > wrote:
On Donnerstag, 11. Oktober 2007, Uschold, Michael F wrote:
> It is great to have Exhibit in the media wiki platform.
>
> Even better would be to have it integrate nicely with the semantic media
> wiki and semantic forms extensions.
>
> Does anyone know of plans for this to happen?

I don't, but I would also welcome this. On the other hand, if MW-integration
is already there, this might be not so difficult to do. I certainly would
like to get Wibbit's bibtex export for my SMW-generated publication list [1]!

Best regards,

Markus

[1] http://korrekt.org/index.php/Publications

>
> Best wishes,
> Michael
>
>
> http://simile.mit.edu/wiki/Wibbit
>
> "Wibbit is what we playfully call our Mediawiki extension for Exhibit
> <http://simile.mit.edu/wiki/Exhibit> . With this extension, you can now
> enjoy all the features of Exhibit with the collaborative editing power
> of Mediawiki."
>
>
>
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