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[Schoolsplay-devel] 回覆: Chinese (Traditional) language translation inquiry

[t曹 <cw...@sc...>]

Hi Stas,
  Thanks for the quick reply and explanation about the translation file. Let me talk to my team and will get back to you if we decide to take a stab at translating Childsplay. Have a great weekend!

Kind regards,
  Michael

Chinese Culture University, School of Continuing Education
曹 (Michael Tsao)
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寄件者: Stas Zytkiewicz <st...@ch...>
寄件日期: 2020年2月14日 下午 03:45
收件者: sch...@li... <sch...@li...>
主旨: Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] Chinese (Traditional) language translation inquiry

Hi, as childsplay is in maintenance mode, meaning no active development
is taken place, I can't give you much assistance.
The translation is as simple as translating a so called po-file but I
don't know if the current childsplay code will display the Chinese fonts.



On 14-02-2020 07:20, t曹 wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm Michael Tsao, a staff member of the Digital Resource Promotion
> Service Center of Open Source Software located in Taipei, Taiwan.
> My team and I think Childsplay is a great product and would like to
> localize the software for the Taiwanese community free of charge.
>
> Would your development team allow us to translate the software interface
> into Chinese (Traditional) language?
>
> If the answer to the previous question is a yes, my team will likely
> need basic technical assistance at the beginning to get everything setup
> before we can start translating.
> Would your development team be able to provide technical assistance if
> need be while my team embarks on the translation task?
>
> Hope to hear back from y'all soon. Have a great day!
>
> Kind regards,
>    Michael
>
>
> Chinese Culture University, School of Continuing Education
> 曹 (Michael Tsao)
> E-mail：cw...@sc...
> <https://mail.sce.pccu.edu.tw/owa/redir.aspx?C=urXNXi-4TboXvhC0DqK8gF64Wi5l9KRNstr4ErkyveTub-_ar0DXCA..&URL=mailto%3acwtsao%40sce.pccu.edu.tw>
> Address：No. 231, Section 2, Jianguo South Road, Da’an District, Taipei
> City, 10659
> Tel：(02)2700-5858 ext. 8630
>
>
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Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] Chinese (Traditional) language translation inquiry

[Stas Z. <st...@ch...>]

Hi, as childsplay is in maintenance mode, meaning no active development 
is taken place, I can't give you much assistance.
The translation is as simple as translating a so called po-file but I 
don't know if the current childsplay code will display the Chinese fonts.



On 14-02-2020 07:20, t曹晉維 wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm Michael Tsao, a staff member of the Digital Resource Promotion 
> Service Center of Open Source Software located in Taipei, Taiwan.
> My team and I think Childsplay is a great product and would like to 
> localize the software for the Taiwanese community free of charge.
> 
> Would your development team allow us to translate the software interface 
> into Chinese (Traditional) language?
> 
> If the answer to the previous question is a yes, my team will likely 
> need basic technical assistance at the beginning to get everything setup 
> before we can start translating.
> Would your development team be able to provide technical assistance if 
> need be while my team embarks on the translation task?
> 
> Hope to hear back from y'all soon. Have a great day!
> 
> Kind regards,
>    Michael
> 
> 
> Chinese Culture University, School of Continuing Education
> 曹晉維 (Michael Tsao)
> E-mail：cw...@sc... 
> <https://mail.sce.pccu.edu.tw/owa/redir.aspx?C=urXNXi-4TboXvhC0DqK8gF64Wi5l9KRNstr4ErkyveTub-_ar0DXCA..&URL=mailto%3acwtsao%40sce.pccu.edu.tw>
> Address：No. 231, Section 2, Jianguo South Road, Da’an District, Taipei 
> City, 10659
> Tel：(02)2700-5858 ext. 8630
> 
> 
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[Schoolsplay-devel] Chinese (Traditional) language translation inquiry

[t曹晉維 <cw...@sc...>]

Hello,
I'm Michael Tsao, a staff member of the Digital Resource Promotion Service Center of Open Source Software located in Taipei, Taiwan.
My team and I think Childsplay is a great product and would like to localize the software for the Taiwanese community free of charge.

Would your development team allow us to translate the software interface into Chinese (Traditional) language?

If the answer to the previous question is a yes, my team will likely need basic technical assistance at the beginning to get everything setup before we can start translating.
Would your development team be able to provide technical assistance if need be while my team embarks on the translation task?

Hope to hear back from y'all soon. Have a great day!

Kind regards,
  Michael


Chinese Culture University, School of Continuing Education
曹晉維 (Michael Tsao)
E-mail：cw...@sc...<https://mail.sce.pccu.edu.tw/owa/redir.aspx?C=urXNXi-4TboXvhC0DqK8gF64Wi5l9KRNstr4ErkyveTub-_ar0DXCA..&URL=mailto%3acwtsao%40sce.pccu.edu.tw>
Address：No. 231, Section 2, Jianguo South Road, Da’an District, Taipei City, 10659
Tel：(02)2700-5858 ext. 8630

[Schoolsplay-devel] Childsplay included in the Softpedia software database

[Softpedia E. T. <sof...@so...>]

Hello,

As you may already know, Childsplay, one of your products, is part of
Softpedia's database of software programs for the Windows operating system.
It is featured with a description text, screenshots, download links and
technical details on this page:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/Home-Education/Childsplay.shtml

The description text was created by our editors, using sources such as text
from your product's homepage, information from its help system, the PAD
file (if available) and the editor's own opinions on the program itself.

"Childsplay" has been tested in the Softpedia labs using several
industry-leading security solutions and found to be completely clean of
adware/spyware components. We are impressed with the quality of your
product and encourage you to keep these high standards in the future.

To assure our visitors that Childsplay is clean, we have granted it with
the "100% FREE" Softpedia award. To let your users know about this
certification, you may display this award on your website, on software
boxes or inside your product.

More information about your product's certification and the award is
available on this page:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/Home-Education/Childsplay.shtml#status


Feel free to link to us using the URLs above. If you choose to link to the
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[Schoolsplay-devel] Childsplay included in the Softpedia software database

[Softpedia E. T. <sof...@so...>]

Hello,

As you may already know, Childsplay, one of your products, is part of
Softpedia's database of software programs for the Windows operating system.
It is featured with a description text, screenshots, download links and
technical details on this page:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/Home-Education/Childsplay.shtml

The description text was created by our editors, using sources such as text
from your product's homepage, information from its help system, the PAD
file (if available) and the editor's own opinions on the program itself.

"Childsplay" has been tested in the Softpedia labs using several
industry-leading security solutions and found to be completely clean of
adware/spyware components. We are impressed with the quality of your
product and encourage you to keep these high standards in the future.

To assure our visitors that Childsplay is clean, we have granted it with
the "100% FREE" Softpedia award. To let your users know about this
certification, you may display this award on your website, on software
boxes or inside your product.

More information about your product's certification and the award is
available on this page:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/Home-Education/Childsplay.shtml

Feel free to link to us using the URLs above. If you choose to link to the
clean award page for your product, you may use the award graphic or a text
link: "100% FREE award granted by Softpedia".



Your developer page on Softpedia can be reached at the URL below. It
contains the list of software products and a link to your website.
http://www.softpedia.com/publisher/stas-zytkiewicz-52128.html 

If you feel that having your product listed on Softpedia is not a benefit
for you or simply need something changed or updated, please contact us via
email at web...@so... and we will work with you to fix any
problem you may have found with the product's listing.

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Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] Childsplay and non-free data

[Stas Z. <st...@ch...>]

On 05-09-14 10:17, Stas Zytkiewicz wrote:
> On 05-09-14 09:52, Sergio Talens-Oliag wrote:
>> I just received the following bug on the debian BTS:
>>
>>     https://bugs.debian.org/758839
>>
>> that claims that some of the data files distributed with childsplay are
>> non-free.
>>
>> Can the childsplay developers confirm if the data is free or non-free and
>> replace the non-free images and sounds for free versions? I don't have the
>> time right now and if the data is non-free I will have to move it to the
>> non-free section or childplay will not be present on the next Debian version.

Uploaded new version, 2.6.4, with the replacements done.
Only two images and one soundfile as the rest of the claims in the
bug report aren't correct.

Anyway, I will also comment on the bug report.

>
> I can comment on the buglist or do you prefer it here ?
>
> Some images might be non-free as I assumed the originals
> were free after I couldn't find a copyright notice.
>
> I will look into it and replace stuff if needed.
>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>     Sergio.
>>
>

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Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] Childsplay and non-free data

[Stas Z. <st...@ch...>]

On 05-09-14 09:52, Sergio Talens-Oliag wrote:
> I just received the following bug on the debian BTS:
>
>    https://bugs.debian.org/758839
>
> that claims that some of the data files distributed with childsplay are
> non-free.
>
> Can the childsplay developers confirm if the data is free or non-free and
> replace the non-free images and sounds for free versions? I don't have the
> time right now and if the data is non-free I will have to move it to the
> non-free section or childplay will not be present on the next Debian version.


I can comment on the buglist or do you prefer it here ?

Some images might be non-free as I assumed the originals
were free after I couldn't find a copyright notice.

I will look into it and replace stuff if needed.

> Thanks in advance,
>
>    Sergio.
>

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[Schoolsplay-devel] Childsplay and non-free data

[Sergio Talens-O. <st...@de...>]

I just received the following bug on the debian BTS:

  https://bugs.debian.org/758839

that claims that some of the data files distributed with childsplay are
non-free.

Can the childsplay developers confirm if the data is free or non-free and
replace the non-free images and sounds for free versions? I don't have the
time right now and if the data is non-free I will have to move it to the
non-free section or childplay will not be present on the next Debian version.

Thanks in advance,

  Sergio.

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[Schoolsplay-devel] usability tests

[Tânia F. <tan...@gm...>]

Hello,



We are two students of a graduation to teach informatics in Universidade do
Minho at Portugal.

In one of our classes our teacher has proposed us that we participate in an
Open Source community. It`s supposed that we play one of the following
roles:

1.    Tester;

2.    Programmer;

3.    Analyst;

We were searching and investigating some projects that are from our
interest. We have seen your project and we think that it is very good. So
now we are sending you a message to now if you are interest in that we do
some usability tests to your program, or to a part of it, since that we
have few time do so (until May/June ).



Thanks,

Andreia Loureiro e Tânia Ferreira

Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] Logon anonymously automatically

[<st...@ch...>]

Hi John, I assume you mean childsplay ?

stas@HackSung:~/GIT/childsplay$ python childsplay.py --help
['childsplay.py', '--help']
No binary
Usage: childsplay.py [options]

Options:
  --version             show program's version number and exit
  -h, --help            show this help message and exit
  --no-login            Don't show login window. This will run schoolsplay in
                        'anonymous' mode which means that there will be no
                        data collecting
....
....

So just start childsplay with the --no-login option,
stas@HackSung:~/GIT/childsplay$ python childsplay.py --no-login



Regards,
Stas Zytkiewicz


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Subject: [Schoolsplay-devel] Logon anonymously automatically

I'm looking at the possibility of using schoolsplay on computers in a
library environment.  We try to keep usage anonymous, so I was wondering if
I am able to make it where the logon screen is skipped entirely and we just
start at the dashboard.

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[Schoolsplay-devel] Logon anonymously automatically

[John W. <jw...@me...>]

I'm looking at the possibility of using schoolsplay on computers in a
library environment.  We try to keep usage anonymous, so I was wondering if
I am able to make it where the logon screen is skipped entirely and we just
start at the dashboard.

Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] Meaning of Score Filed in the database??

[Stas Z. <st...@ch...>]

On 06/10/2013 03:47 PM, S Suresh wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am not able to understand, how the score is being calculated for the
> activity.
>
> I am opening the database using sqlite database browser and seeing the
> activity score value..
>
> Also,
> I am not clear on the  schoolplay "admin app" and respective    activity
> name , MU value, Sigma value ..
> What is these for?
> How the score is being calculated?
>
> Can you please detail it.
Scores are calculated by each activity based on the users actions.
This value is stored in the database.
The mu and sigma values are part of the percentille and 'normal 
deviation' scores that are also calculated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_deviation

> Thanks
> suresh
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[Schoolsplay-devel] Meaning of Score Filed in the database??

[S S. <sur...@gm...>]

Hi,

I am not able to understand, how the score is being calculated for the
activity.

I am opening the database using sqlite database browser and seeing the
activity score value..

Also,
I am not clear on the  schoolplay "admin app" and respective    activity
name , MU value, Sigma value ..
What is these for?
How the score is being calculated?

Can you please detail it.

Thanks
suresh

Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] translation

[Markus K. <mar...@la...>]

I just saw that the link is broken

-> po file comes via email


Am 2012-12-19 21:37, schrieb Markus Klein:
> Hi
>
> I did the DE_de po file. If I remember it correctly ( it is a long time
> ago since the last time) I should not send it directly to this list.
> So here is a link:
> http://free.pages.at/moxen/2012-12-18-childsplay_de_DE.po
>
> I enjoyed it very much that I found a string that talks about percentile
> score :-)
> I never knew where those things proceeded.
>
> I must say that the new release is amazing. Incredible how schoolsplay
> evolved over the time.
>
> Maybe I should translate braintrainerplus, too. Someone should be
> interested in the (not small) german market :-)
>
> greetings
> mx
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[Schoolsplay-devel] translation

[Markus K. <mar...@la...>]

Hi

I did the DE_de po file. If I remember it correctly ( it is a long time 
ago since the last time) I should not send it directly to this list.
So here is a link:
http://free.pages.at/moxen/2012-12-18-childsplay_de_DE.po

I enjoyed it very much that I found a string that talks about percentile 
score :-)
I never knew where those things proceeded.

I must say that the new release is amazing. Incredible how schoolsplay 
evolved over the time.

Maybe I should translate braintrainerplus, too. Someone should be 
interested in the (not small) german market :-)

greetings
mx

Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] catalan update

[Stas <st...@sc...>]

Hi carles, I will look into in this @Valencia thing. At this time I'm not sure how to implement it.
There will be a next release somewhere next week and your "normal" catalan translation will be included.

Carles Ferrando <car...@gm...> wrote:

>Hi Stas ,
>
>Yesterday I send you an email to <in...@sc...>, but I'm not
>sure
>it's a server automatic, so I send this email to this address.
>
>I updated the Catalan translation of schoolsplay, and I added the
>variant
>Catalan (Valencia). Ubuntu has long ago these two variants, Windows 8
>also
>has them, Catalan translators think is the way to encourage the use of
>our
>language in the Valencian Community. You can find information about
>subtag
>valencia at IANA URL (
>http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry)<http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry>.
>
>
>Sounds of variant Catalan(valencia) and Catalan are the same. The word
>list
>is also the same. When you have time, could you prepare the new release
>with the two catalan variants.
>Thank you very much for your time.
>
>Carles.


Greetings, 
Stas

Send from a cyanogenmod 10 "nightly build" phone.

Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] sqlalchemy problem

[Markus K. <mar...@la...>]

Note to myself:

Never follow Stas advice only halfway
but always follow it EXACTLY like he writes !

I purged sqlalchemy
deleted rm -rf /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/*
reinstalled sqlalchemy

AND IT WORKS

Thank you



Am 2012-12-18 15:54, schrieb Markus Klein:
> I just repeated the sqlalchelmy source install to see what it orignally
> wrote to the screen
> Obviously I lack lib/sqlalchemy/cextension/processors.c - thats why
> souce install didn't work
>
> Now I'll try to find the remainings of this (failed) install
>
>
> root@leona-MSI-NOTEBOOK-VR630:/home/leona/child/SQLAlchemy-0.8.0b2#
> python setup.py install
> /usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py:267: UserWarning: Unknown
> distribution option: 'test_suite'
>     warnings.warn(msg)
> /usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py:267: UserWarning: Unknown
> distribution option: 'tests_require'
>     warnings.warn(msg)
> running install
> running build
> running build_py
> running build_ext
> building 'sqlalchemy.cprocessors' extension
> gcc -pthread -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -fwrapv -O2 -Wall
> -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -I/usr/include/python2.7 -c
> lib/sqlalchemy/cextension/processors.c -o
> build/temp.linux-i686-2.7/lib/sqlalchemy/cextension/processors.o
> gcc: Fehler: lib/sqlalchemy/cextension/processors.c: Datei oder
> Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
> gcc: schwerwiegender Fehler: keine Eingabedateien
> Kompilierung beendet.
> ***************************************************************************
> command 'gcc' failed with exit status 4
> WARNING: The C extension could not be compiled, speedups are not enabled.
> Failure information, if any, is above.
> Retrying the build without the C extension now.
> ***************************************************************************
> running install
> running build
> running build_py
> running install_lib
> running install_egg_info
> Removing /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/SQLAlchemy-0.8.0b2.egg-info
> Writing /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/SQLAlchemy-0.8.0b2.egg-info
> ***************************************************************************
> WARNING: The C extension could not be compiled, speedups are not enabled.
> Plain-Python build succeeded.
> ***************************************************************************
>
>
>
>
> Am 2012-12-18 15:34, schrieb Stas:
>> What I said was purge AND remove by hand any sqlalchemy crap installed when you tried to install sqlalchemy from source.
>>
>> Markus Klein <mar...@la...> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the hints, but
>>> apt-get remove --purge python-sqlalchemy
>>> and
>>> reinstallation
>>> doesn't solve the problem.
>>> I am afraid I would have to purge python itself. But that would erase
>>> 200+ packages, some of them seem critical to the system...
>>> I prefer to avoid that..
>>>
>>> I will try on another computer.
>>>
>>> greetings
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 2012-12-17 22:16, schrieb Stas Zytkiewicz:
>>>> I never seen that error, even google can't find one :-(
>>>> I will look into it a bit more tomorrow but I fear it's related to
>>> your
>>>> manual sqlalchemy install.
>>>> I'm afraid you must first remove sqlalchemy with apt-get remove
>>> --purge
>>>> and then go through the locations where your manually installed
>>> sqlalchemy
>>>> stuff and remove them by hand and then reinstall sqlalchemy.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Stas Zytkiewicz
>>>>
>>>> "Act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the
>>>> whole world."
>>>> Immanuel Kant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday 17/12/2012 at 8:25 pm, Markus Klein wrote:
>>>>> bad thing - I tried:
>>>>>
>>>>>> sudo apt-get install python python-sqlalchemy python-pygame
>>>>> and it only installed python-sqlalchemy. (It seems I didn't have it
>>> in
>>>>> the first place)
>>>>>
>>>>> As it didn't repair the situation
>>>>> I tried (after a quick google query)
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo apt-get purge python python-sqlalchemy python-pygame
>>>>>
>>>>> but that would have erased ~200 packages, so I went like:
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo apt-get install --reinstall python python-sqlalchemy
>>> python-pygame
>>>>> It installed python python-sqlalchemy python-pygame again
>>>>>
>>>>> but I still have the error
>>>>>
>>>>> anika@leona-MSI-NOTEBOOK-VR630:/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3$
>>> python
>>>>> childsplay.py
>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>       File "childsplay.py", line 28, in <module>
>>>>>         from SPOptionParser import OParser
>>>>>       File "/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3/SPOptionParser.py", line
>>> 25,
>>>>> in <module>
>>>>>         from SPVersion import optversion
>>>>>       File "/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3/SPVersion.py", line 3, in
>>>>> <module>
>>>>>         import sqlalchemy as sqla
>>>>>       File
>>>>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/sqlalchemy/__init__.py",
>>>>> line 10, in <module>
>>>>>         from .sql import (
>>>>> ImportError: No module named sql
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Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] sqlalchemy problem

[Markus K. <mar...@la...>]

I just repeated the sqlalchelmy source install to see what it orignally 
wrote to the screen
Obviously I lack lib/sqlalchemy/cextension/processors.c - thats why 
souce install didn't work

Now I'll try to find the remainings of this (failed) install


root@leona-MSI-NOTEBOOK-VR630:/home/leona/child/SQLAlchemy-0.8.0b2# 
python setup.py install
/usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py:267: UserWarning: Unknown 
distribution option: 'test_suite'
   warnings.warn(msg)
/usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py:267: UserWarning: Unknown 
distribution option: 'tests_require'
   warnings.warn(msg)
running install
running build
running build_py
running build_ext
building 'sqlalchemy.cprocessors' extension
gcc -pthread -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -fwrapv -O2 -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -I/usr/include/python2.7 -c 
lib/sqlalchemy/cextension/processors.c -o 
build/temp.linux-i686-2.7/lib/sqlalchemy/cextension/processors.o
gcc: Fehler: lib/sqlalchemy/cextension/processors.c: Datei oder 
Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
gcc: schwerwiegender Fehler: keine Eingabedateien
Kompilierung beendet.
***************************************************************************
command 'gcc' failed with exit status 4
WARNING: The C extension could not be compiled, speedups are not enabled.
Failure information, if any, is above.
Retrying the build without the C extension now.
***************************************************************************
running install
running build
running build_py
running install_lib
running install_egg_info
Removing /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/SQLAlchemy-0.8.0b2.egg-info
Writing /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/SQLAlchemy-0.8.0b2.egg-info
***************************************************************************
WARNING: The C extension could not be compiled, speedups are not enabled.
Plain-Python build succeeded.
***************************************************************************




Am 2012-12-18 15:34, schrieb Stas:
> What I said was purge AND remove by hand any sqlalchemy crap installed when you tried to install sqlalchemy from source.
>
> Markus Klein <mar...@la...> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the hints, but
>> apt-get remove --purge python-sqlalchemy
>> and
>> reinstallation
>> doesn't solve the problem.
>> I am afraid I would have to purge python itself. But that would erase
>> 200+ packages, some of them seem critical to the system...
>> I prefer to avoid that..
>>
>> I will try on another computer.
>>
>> greetings
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 2012-12-17 22:16, schrieb Stas Zytkiewicz:
>>> I never seen that error, even google can't find one :-(
>>> I will look into it a bit more tomorrow but I fear it's related to
>> your
>>> manual sqlalchemy install.
>>> I'm afraid you must first remove sqlalchemy with apt-get remove
>> --purge
>>> and then go through the locations where your manually installed
>> sqlalchemy
>>> stuff and remove them by hand and then reinstall sqlalchemy.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Stas Zytkiewicz
>>>
>>> "Act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the
>>> whole world."
>>> Immanuel Kant
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday 17/12/2012 at 8:25 pm, Markus Klein wrote:
>>>> bad thing - I tried:
>>>>
>>>>> sudo apt-get install python python-sqlalchemy python-pygame
>>>> and it only installed python-sqlalchemy. (It seems I didn't have it
>> in
>>>> the first place)
>>>>
>>>> As it didn't repair the situation
>>>> I tried (after a quick google query)
>>>>
>>>> sudo apt-get purge python python-sqlalchemy python-pygame
>>>>
>>>> but that would have erased ~200 packages, so I went like:
>>>>
>>>> sudo apt-get install --reinstall python python-sqlalchemy
>> python-pygame
>>>> It installed python python-sqlalchemy python-pygame again
>>>>
>>>> but I still have the error
>>>>
>>>> anika@leona-MSI-NOTEBOOK-VR630:/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3$
>> python
>>>> childsplay.py
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>      File "childsplay.py", line 28, in <module>
>>>>        from SPOptionParser import OParser
>>>>      File "/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3/SPOptionParser.py", line
>> 25,
>>>> in <module>
>>>>        from SPVersion import optversion
>>>>      File "/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3/SPVersion.py", line 3, in
>>>> <module>
>>>>        import sqlalchemy as sqla
>>>>      File
>>>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/sqlalchemy/__init__.py",
>>>> line 10, in <module>
>>>>        from .sql import (
>>>> ImportError: No module named sql
>>>> anika@leona-MSI-NOTEBOOK-VR630:/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3$
>>>>
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Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] sqlalchemy problem

[Markus K. <mar...@la...>]

Sounds logical.
I will try that. Too bad that I didn't note what it wrote to the screen 
when I tried to install sqlalchemy from source.
It did something before gcc failed to compile stuff..
Now I don't know what it installed and where it remains..
But at least it is worth another try


Am 2012-12-18 15:34, schrieb Stas:
> What I said was purge AND remove by hand any sqlalchemy crap installed when you tried to install sqlalchemy from source.
>
> Markus Klein <mar...@la...> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the hints, but
>> apt-get remove --purge python-sqlalchemy
>> and
>> reinstallation
>> doesn't solve the problem.
>> I am afraid I would have to purge python itself. But that would erase
>> 200+ packages, some of them seem critical to the system...
>> I prefer to avoid that..
>>
>> I will try on another computer.
>>
>> greetings
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 2012-12-17 22:16, schrieb Stas Zytkiewicz:
>>> I never seen that error, even google can't find one :-(
>>> I will look into it a bit more tomorrow but I fear it's related to
>> your
>>> manual sqlalchemy install.
>>> I'm afraid you must first remove sqlalchemy with apt-get remove
>> --purge
>>> and then go through the locations where your manually installed
>> sqlalchemy
>>> stuff and remove them by hand and then reinstall sqlalchemy.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Stas Zytkiewicz
>>>
>>> "Act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the
>>> whole world."
>>> Immanuel Kant
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday 17/12/2012 at 8:25 pm, Markus Klein wrote:
>>>> bad thing - I tried:
>>>>
>>>>> sudo apt-get install python python-sqlalchemy python-pygame
>>>> and it only installed python-sqlalchemy. (It seems I didn't have it
>> in
>>>> the first place)
>>>>
>>>> As it didn't repair the situation
>>>> I tried (after a quick google query)
>>>>
>>>> sudo apt-get purge python python-sqlalchemy python-pygame
>>>>
>>>> but that would have erased ~200 packages, so I went like:
>>>>
>>>> sudo apt-get install --reinstall python python-sqlalchemy
>> python-pygame
>>>> It installed python python-sqlalchemy python-pygame again
>>>>
>>>> but I still have the error
>>>>
>>>> anika@leona-MSI-NOTEBOOK-VR630:/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3$
>> python
>>>> childsplay.py
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>      File "childsplay.py", line 28, in <module>
>>>>        from SPOptionParser import OParser
>>>>      File "/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3/SPOptionParser.py", line
>> 25,
>>>> in <module>
>>>>        from SPVersion import optversion
>>>>      File "/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3/SPVersion.py", line 3, in
>>>> <module>
>>>>        import sqlalchemy as sqla
>>>>      File
>>>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/sqlalchemy/__init__.py",
>>>> line 10, in <module>
>>>>        from .sql import (
>>>> ImportError: No module named sql
>>>> anika@leona-MSI-NOTEBOOK-VR630:/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3$
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] sqlalchemy problem

[Stas <st...@sc...>]

What I said was purge AND remove by hand any sqlalchemy crap installed when you tried to install sqlalchemy from source.

Markus Klein <mar...@la...> wrote:

>Thanks for the hints, but
>apt-get remove --purge python-sqlalchemy
>and
>reinstallation
>doesn't solve the problem.
>I am afraid I would have to purge python itself. But that would erase 
>200+ packages, some of them seem critical to the system...
>I prefer to avoid that..
>
>I will try on another computer.
>
>greetings
>
>
>
>Am 2012-12-17 22:16, schrieb Stas Zytkiewicz:
>> I never seen that error, even google can't find one :-(
>> I will look into it a bit more tomorrow but I fear it's related to
>your
>> manual sqlalchemy install.
>> I'm afraid you must first remove sqlalchemy with apt-get remove
>--purge
>> and then go through the locations where your manually installed
>sqlalchemy
>> stuff and remove them by hand and then reinstall sqlalchemy.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Stas Zytkiewicz
>>
>> "Act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the
>
>> whole world."
>> Immanuel Kant
>>
>>
>> On Monday 17/12/2012 at 8:25 pm, Markus Klein wrote:
>>> bad thing - I tried:
>>>
>>>> sudo apt-get install python python-sqlalchemy python-pygame
>>>
>>> and it only installed python-sqlalchemy. (It seems I didn't have it
>in
>>> the first place)
>>>
>>> As it didn't repair the situation
>>> I tried (after a quick google query)
>>>
>>> sudo apt-get purge python python-sqlalchemy python-pygame
>>>
>>> but that would have erased ~200 packages, so I went like:
>>>
>>> sudo apt-get install --reinstall python python-sqlalchemy
>python-pygame
>>>
>>> It installed python python-sqlalchemy python-pygame again
>>>
>>> but I still have the error
>>>
>>> anika@leona-MSI-NOTEBOOK-VR630:/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3$
>python
>>> childsplay.py
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>     File "childsplay.py", line 28, in <module>
>>>       from SPOptionParser import OParser
>>>     File "/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3/SPOptionParser.py", line
>25,
>>> in <module>
>>>       from SPVersion import optversion
>>>     File "/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3/SPVersion.py", line 3, in
>
>>> <module>
>>>       import sqlalchemy as sqla
>>>     File 
>>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/sqlalchemy/__init__.py",
>>> line 10, in <module>
>>>       from .sql import (
>>> ImportError: No module named sql
>>> anika@leona-MSI-NOTEBOOK-VR630:/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3$
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] sqlalchemy problem

[Markus K. <mar...@la...>]

Thanks for the hints, but
apt-get remove --purge python-sqlalchemy
and
reinstallation
doesn't solve the problem.
I am afraid I would have to purge python itself. But that would erase 
200+ packages, some of them seem critical to the system...
I prefer to avoid that..

I will try on another computer.

greetings



Am 2012-12-17 22:16, schrieb Stas Zytkiewicz:
> I never seen that error, even google can't find one :-(
> I will look into it a bit more tomorrow but I fear it's related to your
> manual sqlalchemy install.
> I'm afraid you must first remove sqlalchemy with apt-get remove --purge
> and then go through the locations where your manually installed sqlalchemy
> stuff and remove them by hand and then reinstall sqlalchemy.
>
> Regards,
> Stas Zytkiewicz
>
> "Act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the 
> whole world."
> Immanuel Kant
>
>
> On Monday 17/12/2012 at 8:25 pm, Markus Klein wrote:
>> bad thing - I tried:
>>
>>> sudo apt-get install python python-sqlalchemy python-pygame
>>
>> and it only installed python-sqlalchemy. (It seems I didn't have it in
>> the first place)
>>
>> As it didn't repair the situation
>> I tried (after a quick google query)
>>
>> sudo apt-get purge python python-sqlalchemy python-pygame
>>
>> but that would have erased ~200 packages, so I went like:
>>
>> sudo apt-get install --reinstall python python-sqlalchemy python-pygame
>>
>> It installed python python-sqlalchemy python-pygame again
>>
>> but I still have the error
>>
>> anika@leona-MSI-NOTEBOOK-VR630:/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3$ python
>> childsplay.py
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>     File "childsplay.py", line 28, in <module>
>>       from SPOptionParser import OParser
>>     File "/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3/SPOptionParser.py", line 25,
>> in <module>
>>       from SPVersion import optversion
>>     File "/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3/SPVersion.py", line 3, in 
>> <module>
>>       import sqlalchemy as sqla
>>     File 
>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/sqlalchemy/__init__.py",
>> line 10, in <module>
>>       from .sql import (
>> ImportError: No module named sql
>> anika@leona-MSI-NOTEBOOK-VR630:/home/leona/child/childsplay-2.3$
>>
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Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] New childsplay version, 2.3.3

[Stas <st...@sc...>]

Chris Van Bael <chr...@gm...> wrote:

>
>> I agree with you, we certainly need to cleanup the mess and
>restructure the sites. Feel free to make the changes :-)
>
>Are you becoming a manager? :-)
No, just extremely busy :-/
And after all, your the web guy ;-)

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Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] New childsplay version, 2.3.3

[Chris V. B. <chr...@gm...>]

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Stas <st...@sc...> wrote:
>>So the version with Kivy you were making is off the table for now?
>>(The Assembla branch)
> No, I have created a basic framework for childsplay  with kivy.
> Its now also in use as a starting point for the commercial braintrainerplus project. It probably will result in some simplified free version. But nothing in the near future.

Ok, that would be cool, since it also works with touch on tablets etc.
Disadvantage is that it doesn't work on Windows XP, which is still
most used OS in the world.
Unfortunately on my work laptop also...

>>Btw, I think the SF.net site is becoming confusing.
> I agree with you, we certainly need to cleanup the mess and restructure the sites. Feel free to make the changes :-)

Are you becoming a manager? :-)

Chris

Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] New childsplay version, 2.3.3

[Stas <st...@sc...>]

Chris Van Bael <chr...@gm...> wrote:

>Thanks, now it works (on XP)
>So the version with Kivy you were making is off the table for now?
>(The Assembla branch)
No, I have created a basic framework for childsplay  with kivy.
Its now also in use as a starting point for the commercial braintrainerplus project. It probably will result in some simplified free version. But nothing in the near future.

>Some time ago we had somebody who was willing to make graphics for
>Childsplay.
>I'll contact him again to ask if he can help us out.
That would be great.

>Btw, I think the SF.net site is becoming confusing.
I agree with you, we certainly need to cleanup the mess and restructure the sites. Feel free to make the changes :-) 

>We have the project Childsplay with an old Windows executable that is
>still downloaded almost 2000 times per month.
>We have the project Schoolsplay with a 1,5 year old executable that is
>even downloaded more than 3500 times per month.
>And now within that Schoolsplay project we will have Childsplay2.
>
>Instead of pointing the Childsplay project to Schoolsplay, can't we
>reverse it and put the code in of Childsplay2 in Childsplay and point
>Schoolsplay to Childsplay?
>Perhaps not immediately, but when the bugs are ironed out and maybe we
>have a new look for program and up to date website.
>
>What do you think?
>
>Chris
>
>On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Stas Zytkiewicz <in...@sc...>
>wrote:
>> Just disable lines 40 and 97 to 100 and it's fixed for windows.
>> I will remove it in the next release.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Stas Zytkiewicz
>>
>> "Act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the
>whole
>> world."
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>>
>>
>> On Monday 17/12/2012 at 1:39 pm, Chris Van Bael wrote:
>>
>> Hi Stas,
>>
>> in utils.py on line 40 you import from pwd, but this is not supported
>> on Windows. (only UNIX, don't know about OS X)
>> Is this using PyGame or that new framework that extends PyGame (but
>> doesn't run on Windows XP)?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Stas Zytkiewicz
><in...@sc...>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yep, finally a new childsplay release, 2.3.3.
>> This release includes many bugfixes and a new game, "four in a row".
>> Still lacking artwork in some games but I'm hoping someone will chip
>> in with some images and stuff :-)
>>
>https://sourceforge.net/projects/schoolsplay/files/latest/download?source=files
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Stas Zytkiewicz
>>
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>> whole world."
>> Immanuel Kant
>>
>>
>>
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Greetings, 
Stas

Send from a cyanogenmod 10 "nightly build" phone.

Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] New childsplay version, 2.3.3

[Chris V. B. <chr...@gm...>]

Thanks, now it works (on XP)
So the version with Kivy you were making is off the table for now?
(The Assembla branch)

Some time ago we had somebody who was willing to make graphics for Childsplay.
I'll contact him again to ask if he can help us out.

Btw, I think the SF.net site is becoming confusing.
We have the project Childsplay with an old Windows executable that is
still downloaded almost 2000 times per month.
We have the project Schoolsplay with a 1,5 year old executable that is
even downloaded more than 3500 times per month.
And now within that Schoolsplay project we will have Childsplay2.

Instead of pointing the Childsplay project to Schoolsplay, can't we
reverse it and put the code in of Childsplay2 in Childsplay and point
Schoolsplay to Childsplay?
Perhaps not immediately, but when the bugs are ironed out and maybe we
have a new look for program and up to date website.

What do you think?

Chris

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Stas Zytkiewicz <in...@sc...> wrote:
> Just disable lines 40 and 97 to 100 and it's fixed for windows.
> I will remove it in the next release.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Stas Zytkiewicz
>
> "Act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole
> world."
> Immanuel Kant
>
>
> On Monday 17/12/2012 at 1:39 pm, Chris Van Bael wrote:
>
> Hi Stas,
>
> in utils.py on line 40 you import from pwd, but this is not supported
> on Windows. (only UNIX, don't know about OS X)
> Is this using PyGame or that new framework that extends PyGame (but
> doesn't run on Windows XP)?
>
> Chris
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Stas Zytkiewicz <in...@sc...>
> wrote:
>
> Yep, finally a new childsplay release, 2.3.3.
> This release includes many bugfixes and a new game, "four in a row".
> Still lacking artwork in some games but I'm hoping someone will chip
> in with some images and stuff :-)
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/schoolsplay/files/latest/download?source=files
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Stas Zytkiewicz
>
> "Act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the
> whole world."
> Immanuel Kant
>
>
>
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