From: squidge <bu...@er...> - 2004-12-21 20:49:20
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I've not seen any activitiy on this since 0.9.5. Does anyone know if there is work still being done on it? It is my WM of choice. -- Squidge |
From: Bungee <bu...@er...> - 2005-07-19 18:45:07
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I'm currently using V. 0.9.6-13 and am not aware of any problems. Is there an newer version in the wings at all? On my old Acorn system I could change screen resolution on-the-fly, and I believe this is possible with some Linux flavours. Is this in fact a WM thing, Xwindows or some other layer I'm quite unaware of? -- Bungee |
From: Tony H. <h...@re...> - 2005-07-19 22:51:14
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In <gem...@er...>, Bungee wrote: > I'm currently using V. 0.9.6-13 and am not aware of any problems. Is there an > newer version in the wings at all? There have been a few patches to fix stuff like 64-bit compatibility. > On my old Acorn system I could change screen resolution on-the-fly, and I > believe this is possible with some Linux flavours. Is this in fact a WM thing, > Xwindows or some other layer I'm quite unaware of? It's X. You can change it with xrandr or some GUI front-end if you can find one. -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk |
From: garron <ro...@ga...> - 2005-07-20 08:03:21
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Tony Houghton wrote: >>On my old Acorn system I could change screen resolution on-the-fly, and I >>believe this is possible with some Linux flavours. Is this in fact a WM thing, >>Xwindows or some other layer I'm quite unaware of? > > > It's X. You can change it with xrandr or some GUI front-end if you can > find one. > do you just mean resolution size? ctrl-alt-numpad plus/minus should do the trick. garron (with apologies for sending this to just Tony H. offlist. whoops... :p ) |
From: Tony H. <h...@re...> - 2005-07-20 13:36:35
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In <42D...@ga...>, garron wrote: > Tony Houghton wrote: > > >>On my old Acorn system I could change screen resolution on-the-fly, and I > >>believe this is possible with some Linux flavours. Is this in fact a WM > >>thing, > >>Xwindows or some other layer I'm quite unaware of? > > > > > >It's X. You can change it with xrandr or some GUI front-end if you can > >find one. > > do you just mean resolution size? ctrl-alt-numpad plus/minus should do > the trick. I don't think that's the same thing. If you reduce resolution with the numpad your desktop stays at the largest resolution available and you get a scrolling viewport into it. AFAICR xrandr changes the virtual resolution too. -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk |
From: Guido S. <__g...@we...> - 2005-07-20 07:53:39
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:45:43 +0100 Bungee <bu...@er...> wrote: > > I'm currently using V. 0.9.6-13 and am not aware of any problems. Is there an > newer version in the wings at all? When you change the theme, it doesn't take effect immediately, only after you some X event happens, like a mouse-click. I think I fixed this now, by creating some dummy event at the end of handleSignal(). Was there any other problem? I can't remember. It has been a while since I read the bug reports. > On my old Acorn system I could change screen resolution on-the-fly, and I > believe this is possible with some Linux flavours. Is this in fact a WM thing, > Xwindows or some other layer I'm quite unaware of? It's a feature of the X11 system. If you have a "xrandr" CLI utility, then your system supports resolution changing. ROX doesn't have a graphical utilitity for that at the moment. Problem is the ROX configlets are written in python from which the Xlib calls are not available directly, so all the logic would have to go into ROX-Session. That's what we do with the other configlets as well. Trouble is, the configlet, in this case, needs to get a list of supported resolutions, which then it would have to receive from ROX-Session, for which I don't see a straight-forward way. ROX-Session could send back the list as a dbus message or something. Sounds uneccessarily complicated, I don't know. |
From: Kristoffer <kf...@on...> - 2005-07-20 11:55:26
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:52:48 +0200, Guido Schimmels <__g...@we...> wrote: > > It's a feature of the X11 system. If you have a "xrandr" CLI utility, > then your system > supports resolution changing. ROX doesn't have a graphical utilitity for > that at the > moment. Problem is the ROX configlets are written in python from which > the Xlib > calls are not available directly, so all the logic would have to go into > ROX-Session. can't it just be a frontend to xrandr? and then use xrandr in the background to receive and set resolutions? i'm reeeeeally out of my backyard now though, so don't be mad if i'm really off, but i still want to know if it's possible :) -- Kris |
From: Thomas L. <ta...@ec...> - 2005-07-21 18:53:44
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:52:48 +0200, Guido Schimmels wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:45:43 +0100 > Bungee <bu...@er...> wrote: [...] >> On my old Acorn system I could change screen resolution on-the-fly, and I >> believe this is possible with some Linux flavours. Is this in fact a WM thing, >> Xwindows or some other layer I'm quite unaware of? > > It's a feature of the X11 system. If you have a "xrandr" CLI utility, then your system > supports resolution changing. ROX doesn't have a graphical utilitity for that at the > moment. Problem is the ROX configlets are written in python You can write them in any language with D-BUS bindings, but Python is usually easiest. > from which the Xlib calls are not available directly, so all the logic would have > to go into ROX-Session. We only need to go via ROX-Session if we want the changes to take effect when you next log in. For screen resolution we don't, because you will generally want to keep the same resolution as the login screen (setting the login screen default resolution might be a useful feature, but ROX can't control that). Changing resolution on the fly is useful when you plug your laptop into an external monitor or a projector in the middle of a session, which isn't a permanent change. > That's what we do with the other configlets as well. Trouble is, the configlet, > in this case, needs to get a list of supported resolutions, I think parsing the xrandr output should work... (Is anyone writing this now? Don't want to duplicate effort...) -- Dr Thomas Leonard http://rox.sourceforge.net GPG: 9242 9807 C985 3C07 44A6 8B9A AE07 8280 59A5 3CC1 |
From: Guido S. <__g...@we...> - 2005-07-22 11:37:46
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:47:28 +0100 Thomas Leonard <ta...@ec...> wrote: > I think parsing the xrandr output should work... > > (Is anyone writing this now? Don't want to duplicate effort...) I did the GUI in Mai, but never carried on with the backend. If you want to complete it, I'll mail it to you. |
From: Thomas L. <ta...@ec...> - 2005-07-24 10:32:03
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:34:40 +0200, Guido Schimmels wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:47:28 +0100 > Thomas Leonard <ta...@ec...> wrote: > >> I think parsing the xrandr output should work... >> >> (Is anyone writing this now? Don't want to duplicate effort...) > > I did the GUI in Mai, but never carried on with the backend. > If you want to complete it, I'll mail it to you. OK, I'll take a look at it. -- Dr Thomas Leonard http://rox.sourceforge.net GPG: 9242 9807 C985 3C07 44A6 8B9A AE07 8280 59A5 3CC1 |
From: Thomas L. <ta...@ec...> - 2005-07-27 19:31:28
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:34:40 +0200, Guido Schimmels wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:47:28 +0100 > Thomas Leonard <ta...@ec...> wrote: > >> I think parsing the xrandr output should work... >> >> (Is anyone writing this now? Don't want to duplicate effort...) > > I did the GUI in Mai, but never carried on with the backend. If you want > to complete it, I'll mail it to you. OK, I've made a version that uses the xrandr command-line. Please test it! To get it, enter this URL into AddApp[1]: http://rox.sourceforge.net/2005/interfaces/Resolution It's also in CVS, under 'config'. [1] http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/AddApp -- Dr Thomas Leonard http://rox.sourceforge.net GPG: 9242 9807 C985 3C07 44A6 8B9A AE07 8280 59A5 3CC1 |
From: Guido S. <__g...@we...> - 2005-07-29 17:24:05
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:22:18 +0100 Thomas Leonard <ta...@ec...> wrote: > OK, I've made a version that uses the xrandr command-line. Please test it! > To get it, enter this URL into AddApp[1]: Is it intentional that refresh rate can't be changed? |
From: Bungee <bu...@er...> - 2005-07-29 19:15:16
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Thomas Leonard <ta...@ec...> wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:34:40 +0200, Guido Schimmels wrote: > > > On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:47:28 +0100 > > Thomas Leonard <ta...@ec...> wrote: > > > >> I think parsing the xrandr output should work... > >> > >> (Is anyone writing this now? Don't want to duplicate effort...) > > > > I did the GUI in Mai, but never carried on with the backend. If you want > > to complete it, I'll mail it to you. > > OK, I've made a version that uses the xrandr command-line. Please test it! > To get it, enter this URL into AddApp[1]: > > http://rox.sourceforge.net/2005/interfaces/Resolution > > It's also in CVS, under 'config'. > > > [1] http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/AddApp I had a go at this, but I'm still having problems with xrandr under mdk10.1 :( I now get the message: Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0". I know this is rather OT, but if anyone knows the silly mistake I'm making I'd like to know! -- Bungee |
From: Bungee <bu...@er...> - 2005-07-23 22:51:17
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Guido Schimmels <__g...@we...> wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:47:28 +0100 > Thomas Leonard <ta...@ec...> wrote: > > > I think parsing the xrandr output should work... > > > > (Is anyone writing this now? Don't want to duplicate effort...) > > I did the GUI in Mai, but never carried on with the backend. > If you want to complete it, I'll mail it to you. This is very interesting and I hope that somone ius able to follow up. ... unfortunately Mandrake (10.1) doesn't seem to support xrandr :( -- Bungee |
From: Bungee <bu...@er...> - 2005-07-24 09:03:22
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Bungee <bu...@er...> wrote: > Guido Schimmels <__g...@we...> wrote: > > > On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:47:28 +0100 > > Thomas Leonard <ta...@ec...> wrote: > > > > > I think parsing the xrandr output should work... > > > > > > (Is anyone writing this now? Don't want to duplicate effort...) > > > > I did the GUI in Mai, but never carried on with the backend. > > If you want to complete it, I'll mail it to you. > > This is very interesting and I hope that somone ius able to follow up. > ... unfortunately Mandrake (10.1) doesn't seem to support xrandr :( Correction! xrandr *is* in mandrake. I did't realise that it was one of those packages that hides if you try to access it as a normal user. I had tried xrandr -help in a user terminal window :/ -- Bungee |
From: Guido S. <__g...@we...> - 2005-07-25 18:55:43
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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:04:09 +0100 Bungee <bu...@er...> wrote: > Correction! > xrandr *is* in mandrake. I did't realise that it was one of those packages that > hides if you try to access it as a normal user. I had tried xrandr -help in a > user terminal window :/ Strange decision by the mandrake crew. In an enterprise setup there may be sound reasons to prevent resolution change by "Induhviduals". But for a workstation install, this is stupid. Per-user OTF resolution change is precisly what RANDR is there for. If only the admin can do that, it is pretty much useless. |
From: Thomas L. <ta...@ec...> - 2005-07-29 18:26:09
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On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 07:23:01PM +0200, Guido Schimmels wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:22:18 +0100 > Thomas Leonard <ta...@ec...> wrote: > > > OK, I've made a version that uses the xrandr command-line. Please test it! > > To get it, enter this URL into AddApp[1]: > > Is it intentional that refresh rate can't be changed? Does xrandr let you change it? All the refresh rates are listed on one line, next to the same number. -- Dr Thomas Leonard http://rox.sourceforge.net GPG: 9242 9807 C985 3C07 44A6 8B9A AE07 8280 59A5 3CC1 |
From: Ken H. <ke...@ha...> - 2005-07-29 22:01:17
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On Fri, July 29, 2005 11:25 am, Thomas Leonard said: > On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 07:23:01PM +0200, Guido Schimmels wrote: >> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:22:18 +0100 >> Thomas Leonard <ta...@ec...> wrote: >> >> > OK, I've made a version that uses the xrandr command-line. Please test >> it! >> > To get it, enter this URL into AddApp[1]: >> >> Is it intentional that refresh rate can't be changed? > > Does xrandr let you change it? All the refresh rates are listed on one > line, next to the same number. Yes, and the current setting has an * next to it. The man page doesn't seem to list '-r or --rate' support. But xrandr --help does show it. |
From: Thomas L. <ta...@ec...> - 2005-07-30 11:03:01
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On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 08:16:32PM +0100, Bungee wrote: > Thomas Leonard <ta...@ec...> wrote: [...] > > OK, I've made a version that uses the xrandr command-line. Please test it! > > To get it, enter this URL into AddApp[1]: > > > > http://rox.sourceforge.net/2005/interfaces/Resolution > > I had a go at this, but I'm still having problems with xrandr under mdk10.1 :( > I now get the message: > > Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0". > > I know this is rather OT, but if anyone knows the silly mistake I'm > making I'd like to know! That usually means the X server is too old, but I would have thought 10.1 would be recent enough. Mandrake 10.1 uses X.org 6.7.0, according to distrowatch. I've got 6.8.2 here (Debian). Can any Mandrake/Mandriva users comment? -- Dr Thomas Leonard http://rox.sourceforge.net GPG: 9242 9807 C985 3C07 44A6 8B9A AE07 8280 59A5 3CC1 |
From: Tristan A. M. <the...@gm...> - 2005-07-30 11:54:53
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> > Thomas Leonard <ta...@ec...> wrote: > [...] > > > OK, I've made a version that uses the xrandr command-line. Please tes= t it! > > > To get it, enter this URL into AddApp[1]: > > > > > > http://rox.sourceforge.net/2005/interfaces/Resolution > > Just a note on Resolution's documentation. It says on line 16 activated by pressing <Ctrl+<Shirt>+<Keypad Plus>. ... should probably be changed to ...<Shift>... :) |
From: Tristan A. M. <the...@gm...> - 2005-07-30 11:59:54
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On 30/07/05, Tristan Alexander McLeay <the...@gm...> wrote: > Just a note on Resolution's documentation. It says on line 16 > activated by pressing <Ctrl+<Shirt>+<Keypad Plus>. ... > should probably be changed to ...<Shift>... :) Actually, come to think of it, isn't it <Ctrl>+<Alt>+<KP Plus>? It's been a while since I've used it, my current setup doesn't support it... -- Tristan. |
From: Thomas L. <ta...@ec...> - 2005-07-30 12:15:18
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On Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 09:59:47PM +1000, Tristan Alexander McLeay wrote: > On 30/07/05, Tristan Alexander McLeay <the...@gm...> wrote: > > > Just a note on Resolution's documentation. It says on line 16 > > activated by pressing <Ctrl+<Shirt>+<Keypad Plus>. ... > > should probably be changed to ...<Shift>... :) > > Actually, come to think of it, isn't it <Ctrl>+<Alt>+<KP Plus>? It's > been a while since I've used it, my current setup doesn't support > it... So it is. Fixed now :-) -- Dr Thomas Leonard http://rox.sourceforge.net GPG: 9242 9807 C985 3C07 44A6 8B9A AE07 8280 59A5 3CC1 |
From: Bungee <bu...@er...> - 2005-08-06 11:23:54
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Thomas Leonard <ta...@ec...> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 08:16:32PM +0100, Bungee wrote: > > Thomas Leonard <ta...@ec...> wrote: > [...] > > > OK, I've made a version that uses the xrandr command-line. Please test it! > > > To get it, enter this URL into AddApp[1]: > > > > > > http://rox.sourceforge.net/2005/interfaces/Resolution > > > > I had a go at this, but I'm still having problems with xrandr under mdk10.1 :( > > I now get the message: > > > > Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0". > > > > I know this is rather OT, but if anyone knows the silly mistake I'm > > making I'd like to know! > > That usually means the X server is too old, but I would have thought > 10.1 would be recent enough. Mandrake 10.1 uses X.org 6.7.0, according > to distrowatch. I've got 6.8.2 here (Debian). Can any Mandrake/Mandriva > users comment? Double checking on two other machines (also with mdk 10.1) reveals the fact that it is some form of graphics card/driver issue. The one that does *not* work is an ati 9200, which rather surprises me. One that works fine has a SIS card, and the other good one has at TNT2. I'll follow up on the Mandrake group, but they haven't been particularly responsive on there so far :( -- Bungee |
From: Abrolag <ab...@us...> - 2006-02-21 19:24:12
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In case people haven't noticed OroboROX-0.9.7.10 is now available. -- No Sig |
From: Abrolag <ab...@us...> - 2006-09-17 00:21:58
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There doesn't seem to be any news on this for a very long time. I believe there were some problems with v 0.9.8 have these been resolved? I haven't been able to look at it myself for a long time. I would like to do a bit more if I can but don't want to be re-inventing the wheel :( -- W J G |